Once again Trump makes the right decision. Transgender cannot serve in military

[Carter Malone]

 

[OldLady]

Supreme Court here we come.

SC for what? Trannies arent covered in any laws or the COTUS. SC cant do shit

Honestly? The S.C. doesn't review discrimination cases? What about the Christian bakers?

Are gays protected? Yes Are trannies? No
You better get the law changed before taking it to the SC

You sure about that?

Yes. Care to show me where trannies are federally protected?

The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability.Nov 21, 2009
I don't see that "sex" is any more indicative of "gay" than "transgender."

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Excuse me, transgenders were not allowed to serve in the military during Obama's first 7 years where's the outrage? The policy Trump is ending was only just started last year.

Military is NOT a circus for "progressive" thought.

Trump: U.S. military won’t allow transgender people ‘to serve in any capacity’

Will the 2,000 - 7,000 transgender active military personnel currently serving be given an honorable discharge? Now that for a year they have been permitted to serve openly? Hopefully a lot of them were smart enough to keep their mouths shut anyway.

One of our E.R. docs who is now a woman used to be a man years ago. She's just as grumpy now as she was when he was a man. You would never, ever know. Still a good doctor. I don't see what the big problem is.

I have bad news for ya, he's still a man........a mutilated one perhaps, but still a man.

 

[Carter Malone]

 

[miketx]

Sorry, Mexicans don't have the skill set to do that. All they could do would be to tunnel through it to smuggle drugs from point A to point B.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Another broken Trump promise. The guy is a pathological liar.

what promise?

Jesus H. Christ is EVERY RWnut on this board completely uninformed?

wouldnt it have just been easier to answer the question?

Jesus H. Christ is EVERY RWnut on this board completely uninformed?

Trump is president, Hillary is not, that's informed enough

So everything Obama put in place should be left alone, because he won twice?

Its not my fault you people lost the election, the American people in 30 states voted against Obama's policies.

Hitler won without winning the popular vote too.

Trump's in good company.,

Was there a popular vote election? No there wasn't.

Lucky for you RWnuts eh?

 

[miketx]

Most juvenile post of the day.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Opposition to Trump's latest nuttery is widespread and bi-partisan.

Of course Trump doesn't care. He's resigned himself to living in the bunker with his most fanatic supporters.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Draft dodger Trump thinks he knows what's best for the military. If a transgender person is willing to lay their life down for this country, what's the problem?

The problem is if you can stand naked in front of a mirror and still be confused, you have deep emotional problems. I don't think people with such deep emotional problems should be on the line with our real men when it comes to battle.

 

[TNHarley]

So, transexuals dont suffer because of their condition? Welp, you better tell the transexuals their distress is all in their head!
Look at my link above. The ICD10 is an INTERNATIONAL classification of disease established by the WHO.
BTW, the APA is a bunch of political horseshit. A few years ago they said if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane.
I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room
They say transgenders are just as mentally healthy as sane people despite their almost 50% suicide rate
They also label insomnia as a mental disorder but not transexuality? tsk tsk
Check out the ICD10.

I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room.

In the 70's, it was still a common belief that all gays were pedophiles. They were fired from teaching positions if they were "found out." It was awful, but we were living in a cloud of ignorance then. I doubt psychologists today find being "gay" a disorder.
The ICD or the DSM--does it really make that much difference?
The APA is not political activists, except in the sense that it educates people still living in a fucking pig holler somewhere who think there's something SICK about being gay or transgender. Yes, in this judgmental society it can cause a lot of issues, but it isn't the being gay or trans that causes it. It's the fact that people like you won't accept them as they are.

I dont think gay is a mental disorder. Although, it could probably be argued it is some sort of chemical imbalance. Simply because it goes against nature. Thats it.
What difference does it make? Well, considering we are posting different things, i would say it matters lol. The DCM was created by the APA. The ICD was created by a world org that doesnt give two shits about american societal issues.
I like how you skipped half my post.
If you dont think them saying "if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane" is activism, you, mam, are retarded.

I want that link.

Here is a good quote for you
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast… It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Homosexual/Lesbian Activist)
Goes along with only ONE FOURTH of doctors agreeing with that stance AKA activism
Here ya go
Not a Liberal? The APA Says You're Crazy

Where is the study cited in that guy's blog? He's not even a psychiatrist.

So, transexuals dont suffer because of their condition? Welp, you better tell the transexuals their distress is all in their head!
Look at my link above. The ICD10 is an INTERNATIONAL classification of disease established by the WHO.
BTW, the APA is a bunch of political horseshit. A few years ago they said if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane.
I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room
They say transgenders are just as mentally healthy as sane people despite their almost 50% suicide rate
They also label insomnia as a mental disorder but not transexuality? tsk tsk
Check out the ICD10.

I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room.

In the 70's, it was still a common belief that all gays were pedophiles. They were fired from teaching positions if they were "found out." It was awful, but we were living in a cloud of ignorance then. I doubt psychologists today find being "gay" a disorder.
The ICD or the DSM--does it really make that much difference?
The APA is not political activists, except in the sense that it educates people still living in a fucking pig holler somewhere who think there's something SICK about being gay or transgender. Yes, in this judgmental society it can cause a lot of issues, but it isn't the being gay or trans that causes it. It's the fact that people like you won't accept them as they are.

I dont think gay is a mental disorder. Although, it could probably be argued it is some sort of chemical imbalance. Simply because it goes against nature. Thats it.
What difference does it make? Well, considering we are posting different things, i would say it matters lol. The DCM was created by the APA. The ICD was created by a world org that doesnt give two shits about american societal issues.
I like how you skipped half my post.
If you dont think them saying "if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane" is activism, you, mam, are retarded.

I want that link.

Here is a good quote for you
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast… It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Homosexual/Lesbian Activist)
Goes along with only ONE FOURTH of doctors agreeing with that stance AKA activism
Here ya go
Not a Liberal? The APA Says You're Crazy

Where is the study cited in that guy's blog? He's not even a psychiatrist.

he is a psychotherapist.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Draft dodger Trump thinks he knows what's best for the military. If a transgender person is willing to lay their life down for this country, what's the problem?

While I'm a libertarian I kind of agree with this Executive Order. The military commanders have enough to deal with in terms of training soldiers and national defense. They don't need to be distracted by these kinds of inane cultural issues.

People said the same thing when minorities and women were allowed to serve.

Not even remotely the same thing, but nice try.

Yes it is the same thing. Its discrimination. People complained about blacks serving in the military. Then women. Then people freaked out over gay and lesbians serving in the army. And now people are freaking out over transsexuals. Being transgender doesn't effect your performance in the army.

Its only a distraction because small minded people allow it to be.

People get disqualified from the military for all sorts of reasons. I think this guy does a pretty good job explaining it

 

[Tilly]

 

[TNHarley]

SC for what? Trannies arent covered in any laws or the COTUS. SC cant do shit

Honestly? The S.C. doesn't review discrimination cases? What about the Christian bakers?

Are gays protected? Yes Are trannies? No
You better get the law changed before taking it to the SC

You sure about that?

Yes. Care to show me where trannies are federally protected?

The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability.Nov 21, 2009
I don't see that "sex" is any more indicative of "gay" than "transgender."

The CSRA is for CIVILIAN employees.

 

[TNHarley]

Opposition to Trump's latest nuttery is widespread and bi-partisan.

Of course Trump doesn't care. He's resigned himself to living in the bunker with his most fanatic supporters.

what was his promise he broke, goof troop?

 

[Carter Malone]

Sorry, Mexicans don't have the skill set to do that. All they could do would be to tunnel through it to smuggle drugs from point A to point B.

Then why does Trump hire so many? Why does he refuse to hire American labor and American manufacturing?

 

[miketx]

Sorry, Mexicans don't have the skill set to do that. All they could do would be to tunnel through it to smuggle drugs from point A to point B.

Then why does Trump hire so many? Why does he refuse to hire American labor and American manufacturing?

Stop lying and stop trolling my thread. This is about Trumps gender ban.

 

[OldLady]

I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room.

In the 70's, it was still a common belief that all gays were pedophiles. They were fired from teaching positions if they were "found out." It was awful, but we were living in a cloud of ignorance then. I doubt psychologists today find being "gay" a disorder.
The ICD or the DSM--does it really make that much difference?
The APA is not political activists, except in the sense that it educates people still living in a fucking pig holler somewhere who think there's something SICK about being gay or transgender. Yes, in this judgmental society it can cause a lot of issues, but it isn't the being gay or trans that causes it. It's the fact that people like you won't accept them as they are.

I dont think gay is a mental disorder. Although, it could probably be argued it is some sort of chemical imbalance. Simply because it goes against nature. Thats it.
What difference does it make? Well, considering we are posting different things, i would say it matters lol. The DCM was created by the APA. The ICD was created by a world org that doesnt give two shits about american societal issues.
I like how you skipped half my post.
If you dont think them saying "if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane" is activism, you, mam, are retarded.

I want that link.

Here is a good quote for you
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast… It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Homosexual/Lesbian Activist)
Goes along with only ONE FOURTH of doctors agreeing with that stance AKA activism
Here ya go
Not a Liberal? The APA Says You're Crazy

Where is the study cited in that guy's blog? He's not even a psychiatrist.

I have seen somewhere where alot of the people that run that malarkey are homosexuals. They took gayness off the list of disorders in the 70s with no scientific basis. Only 1/4 of doctors in their panel agreed with that assessment. ONE FOURTH. They are activists. Nothing more.
Go and try to cite the APA in a court room.

In the 70's, it was still a common belief that all gays were pedophiles. They were fired from teaching positions if they were "found out." It was awful, but we were living in a cloud of ignorance then. I doubt psychologists today find being "gay" a disorder.
The ICD or the DSM--does it really make that much difference?
The APA is not political activists, except in the sense that it educates people still living in a fucking pig holler somewhere who think there's something SICK about being gay or transgender. Yes, in this judgmental society it can cause a lot of issues, but it isn't the being gay or trans that causes it. It's the fact that people like you won't accept them as they are.

I dont think gay is a mental disorder. Although, it could probably be argued it is some sort of chemical imbalance. Simply because it goes against nature. Thats it.
What difference does it make? Well, considering we are posting different things, i would say it matters lol. The DCM was created by the APA. The ICD was created by a world org that doesnt give two shits about american societal issues.
I like how you skipped half my post.
If you dont think them saying "if you dont identify as liberal, you are insane" is activism, you, mam, are retarded.

I want that link.

Here is a good quote for you
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast… It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Homosexual/Lesbian Activist)
Goes along with only ONE FOURTH of doctors agreeing with that stance AKA activism
Here ya go
Not a Liberal? The APA Says You're Crazy

Where is the study cited in that guy's blog? He's not even a psychiatrist.

he is a psychotherapist.

I thought I got rid of that comment. Sorry. Yes, he is. Still would be interested in the study he cited because his whole piece is patently biased and I doubt if it actually says that.

 

[OldLady]

Honestly? The S.C. doesn't review discrimination cases? What about the Christian bakers?

Are gays protected? Yes Are trannies? No
You better get the law changed before taking it to the SC

You sure about that?

Yes. Care to show me where trannies are federally protected?

The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability.Nov 21, 2009
I don't see that "sex" is any more indicative of "gay" than "transgender."

The CSRA is for CIVILIAN employees.

Okay fine. I have a feeling there will be lawsuits on the desk of judges tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.

 

[TNHarley]

Are gays protected? Yes Are trannies? No
You better get the law changed before taking it to the SC

You sure about that?

Yes. Care to show me where trannies are federally protected?

The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability.Nov 21, 2009
I don't see that "sex" is any more indicative of "gay" than "transgender."

The CSRA is for CIVILIAN employees.

Okay fine. I have a feeling there will be lawsuits on the desk of judges tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.

I dont doubt it. There were with the travel ban and we see how that worked out lol
But seriously, trannies arent protected federally. I dont even think gays are. Certain states have PA laws that cover that and i believe that is where the "cake" cases come into play.
Thats why nobody can sue the muslims in michigan for not baking cakes for gays.

 

[Doc1]

Opposition to Trump's latest nuttery is widespread and bi-partisan.

Of course Trump doesn't care. He's resigned himself to living in the bunker with his most fanatic supporters.

You know how I know you're a dumbass? Because when the shit hits the fan and someone gets hurt whoever they're with MUST be able to carry them out to safety or die trying. But you wouldn't know about that would you little Blue Bird?