One chart shows the dire state of America's middle class

Drumphf fault
Family women have been entering the work force to make ends meet for decades now
Where ya been ? Gender studies ?
Yall keep telling us we have the greatest economy EVER and yet its not true!
Clearly it isn't for whiny, sniveling socialist crybabies, Comrade P - not enough "free stuff" apparently - but the rest of us are definitely doing better.

Record-High Optimism on Personal Finances in U.S.

How have Americans fared financially under Trump?
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Persistent deficit spending - unsustainable as it is - is not socialism, Comrade G, and who exactly worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt?
 
With that, I do not disagree whatsoever. I glanced through some of it after reading your post, trying to discover the impact of housing prices.

REASON--------------->Houses get bigger, and bigger. That is a CHOICE, not a demand; and this happens as families get smaller.

If that is included in cost, I can see why this is happening. A 2500 foot home for 3 people, is a lot! Now far be it from me to deny anyone that choice, but don't buy a 300,000 home, then complain it is hard to make all your bills.

Housing is an odd thing and I cannot decide which is the driving factor...the buyers or the builders.

Trying to find a smaller house to buy is darn near impossible in most non-urban areas. The only smaller houses around my neck of the woods are those that are more than 60 years old. Subdivisions are going in with pre-built houses that are just crazy, but they are the only new houses around to buy.
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Persistent deficit spending - unsustainable as it is - is not socialism, Comrade G, and who exactly worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt?

no, it is worse and you do.
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Progress is not always forward and it's not necessarily measured by material success. It's ironic that a socialist would believe it is.
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Persistent deficit spending - unsustainable as it is - is not socialism, Comrade G, and who exactly worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt?

no, it is worse and you do.
Because socialism does not destroy the wealth created by capitalism of the foolish nations and people that embrace it? You kid yourself, Comrade G, and no, I do not worship any man.
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Persistent deficit spending - unsustainable as it is - is not socialism, Comrade G, and who exactly worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt?

no, it is worse and you do.
Because socialism does not destroy the wealth created by capitalism of the foolish nations and people that embrace it? You kid yourself, Comrade G, and no, I do not worship any man.

people like you do not think that Trump is a mere man
 
Seems to me, if the FED didn't continually debase the value of the currency?

This whole argument between the left and the right would be moot.

The government and financial institutions gain by such a policy, while the poor and middle class demand something be done when they can't afford as much, year after year, just so the government can spend more on either defense, or entitlements, or what have you. . . .

. .. and the FED pumps more into the economy, and the dollar loses more purchasing power, year after year, and the cry for socialism goes out among the middle classes and the poor.

While you all stupidly sit there and think it has to do with what idiots they put in congress or in the oval orifice.

It gets worse every year.




derp derp derp.

How Trump’s economy stacks up - Axios

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With that, I do not disagree whatsoever. I glanced through some of it after reading your post, trying to discover the impact of housing prices.

REASON--------------->Houses get bigger, and bigger. That is a CHOICE, not a demand; and this happens as families get smaller.

If that is included in cost, I can see why this is happening. A 2500 foot home for 3 people, is a lot! Now far be it from me to deny anyone that choice, but don't buy a 300,000 home, then complain it is hard to make all your bills.

Housing is an odd thing and I cannot decide which is the driving factor...the buyers or the builders.

Trying to find a smaller house to buy is darn near impossible in most non-urban areas. The only smaller houses around my neck of the woods are those that are more than 60 years old. Subdivisions are going in with pre-built houses that are just crazy, but they are the only new houses around to buy.

Agreed. But lets be honest here--------->builders would not build them if they could not sell them.

It is driven by consumer wants; and if they want to pay those prices for big homes, that is their choice. But to say that costs have gone through the roof because of their home choices, is a false statement. We would be pretending that costs are to high to live, when some/part/many people decided of their own free will, to live high on the hog.

My personal feeling is-------------> many Americans question how young people live today after getting married.

I on the other hand question...………….how in the hell they ever decide to get divorced if they managed to build anything!

If there is no abuse, they really got to hate each other, or love someone else beyond belief, or they just gave away something they will probably never reacquire.
 
Seems to me, if the FED didn't continually debase the value of the currency?

This whole argument between the left and the right would be moot.

The government and financial institutions gain by such a policy, while the poor and middle class demand something be done when they can't afford as much, year after year, just so the government can spend more on either defense, or entitlements, or what have you. . . .

. .. and the FED pumps more into the economy, and the dollar loses more purchasing power, year after year, and the cry for socialism goes out among the middle classes and the poor.

While you all stupidly sit there and think it has to do with what idiots they put in congress or in the oval orifice.

It gets worse every year.




derp derp derp.

How Trump’s economy stacks up - Axios

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Wow, amazing how different figures can be from a left leaning source such as axios vs hudson institute, right leaning but known for factual reporting
Economic Growth by President - by Jeffrey H. Anderson
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Johnson (1964-68), 5.3%
Kennedy (1961-63), 4.3%
Clinton (1993-2000), 3.9%
Reagan (1981-88), 3.5%
Carter (1977-80), 3.3%
Eisenhower (1953-60), 3.0%
(Post-WWII average: 2.9%)
Nixon (1969-74), 2.8%
Ford (1975-76), 2.6%
G. H. W. Bush (1989-92), 2.3%
G. W. Bush (2001-08), 2.1%
Truman (1946-52), 1.7%
Obama (2009-15), 1.5%

(According to the BEA, real GDP growth in 2016 has been 0.8 percent in the first quarter and 1.2 percent in the second quarter. Those figures, being from an incomplete year, are not included in President Obama’s tally. If economic growth does not improve over the rest of 2016, however, his overall tally would drop slightly.)
 
Can it be because we've come to want and expect so much more than did our parents (and grandparents) who once found a single income could provide? Why is it socialist laments never include context? Does it frighten y'all?

Yes, that is the American way, each generation expect to be better off than their parents...until now, the current youth no longer expect that.

And I am not sure why the guy that worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt calls other people socialist
Persistent deficit spending - unsustainable as it is - is not socialism, Comrade G, and who exactly worships the man that has added 3.5 trillion to our national debt?

no, it is worse and you do.
Because socialism does not destroy the wealth created by capitalism of the foolish nations and people that embrace it? You kid yourself, Comrade G, and no, I do not worship any man.

people like you do not think that Trump is a mere man
Or so you need to believe but then people like you are idiots, Comrade G, so I'll take your insult with a big bag of road salt. :D
 
The good news is that the top 10% hold 70% of the wealth in America, and I'm sure they'll be trickling on you any time now.

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The hypocrisy levels are at an 11. The mental gymnastics are palpable. Might want to wear some boots. The bullshit in here is rising.
 
The good news is that the top 10% hold 70% of the wealth in America, and I'm sure they'll be trickling on you any time now.

https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fpedrodacosta%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F05%2Ffed1.jpg

The hypocrisy levels are at an 11. The mental gymnastics are palpable. Might want to wear some boots. The bullshit in here is rising.
The question to me is always this: Are they bullshitting, or have they just been completely conned, and operating on willful ignorance?

I can never tell.
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Seems to me, if the FED didn't continually debase the value of the currency?

This whole argument between the left and the right would be moot.

The government and financial institutions gain by such a policy, while the poor and middle class demand something be done when they can't afford as much, year after year, just so the government can spend more on either defense, or entitlements, or what have you. . . .

. .. and the FED pumps more into the economy, and the dollar loses more purchasing power, year after year, and the cry for socialism goes out among the middle classes and the poor.

While you all stupidly sit there and think it has to do with what idiots they put in congress or in the oval orifice.

It gets worse every year.




derp derp derp.

How Trump’s economy stacks up - Axios

giphy.gif
Wow, amazing how different figures can be from a left leaning source such as axios vs hudson institute, right leaning but known for factual reporting
Economic Growth by President - by Jeffrey H. Anderson
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Johnson (1964-68), 5.3%
Kennedy (1961-63), 4.3%
Clinton (1993-2000), 3.9%
Reagan (1981-88), 3.5%
Carter (1977-80), 3.3%
Eisenhower (1953-60), 3.0%
(Post-WWII average: 2.9%)
Nixon (1969-74), 2.8%
Ford (1975-76), 2.6%
G. H. W. Bush (1989-92), 2.3%
G. W. Bush (2001-08), 2.1%
Truman (1946-52), 1.7%
Obama (2009-15), 1.5%

(According to the BEA, real GDP growth in 2016 has been 0.8 percent in the first quarter and 1.2 percent in the second quarter. Those figures, being from an incomplete year, are not included in President Obama’s tally. If economic growth does not improve over the rest of 2016, however, his overall tally would drop slightly.)
There are many forces that impact our economy which are beyond the control of even the POTUS. All any prez can do is set the table and ring the dinner bell.
 


Riiiiigggghhhhhtttt. LMAO

U.S. real median household income reached $63,688 in January 2019, an increase of $171 or 0.3% over one month (December 2018).

Household income in the United States - Wikipedia

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and inflation for Dec 2018 was 1.9%....


Yeah, and the annualized gain in that one month would be 3.6%, which number is bigger?

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The Obama years did some real damage...but we are on our way back...we are becoming great again....
Oh so now you trump cultists are gonna blame Obama...lovely. Trump the bullshitter has had almost FOUR YEARS to fix this and NOTHING is being fixed..its getting worse but hey don't worry about it the rich ceo's got their tax breaks..

Common decency and morality isn't in the budget for Cult45.
 

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