They are not preventing Border Security, that's actually what they believe in and have funded.... more Border Patrol, more custom agents, more judges, wired fences, drones, motion detectors etc and in the 2006/7 immigration reform, the 700 miles of wall that was just finished in critical areas.... It's the Wall across the whole United States, even in areas where the likelihood of crossing a dessert or mountain range is near nil, is what they believe is a waste of tax payer's money, especially since Mexico is not ever going to pay for it.Not having a wall does not make it an open border.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
Without Trump the border would be GAPING right now as third worlders would march in to pillage Americans so that democrats could have some votes.He's causing a lot of it.... all of his bogus threats in tweets of shutting down the border completely, has caused these Central Americans to rush to our border before it closes... is just one example.... then closing down the legal entry points to s slow crawl has CAUSED the masses to cross over illegally, overwhelming our Border Patrol and Facilities, his not staffing the courts with Judges,purposely, is also causing the crisis to be worse....45000 border Patrol and ICE agents, 700 miles of walls, the lord knows how many custom entry points that have to be passed through to come in legally, a visa program, a legal process for asylum seekers that denies them 95% of the time of being refugees etc. is hardly a situation of illegal entry being ignored or open borders...Open borders mean unrestricted legal crossings of borders.
Please provide a link to your 'Liberal Encyclopedia'....
"An open border is a border that enables free movement of people between jurisdictions with few or no restrictions on movement, that is to say lacking substantive border control.
A border may be an open border due to a lack of legal controls or intentional legislation allowing free movement of people across the border (de jure), or a border may be an open border due to lack of adequate enforcement or adequate supervision of the border (de facto)."
Open border - Wikipedia
Do we have a crisis right now with all of these Central Americans escape to USA....? Surely we do.... but the Trumpster actions have made it worse, instead of trying to solve the problem imo.
Are you sure that you aren't mixing up what we have with Trump vs what the democrats are promising?
The democrats are fighting in every way they can to stop border security. But the God-Emperor is just too strong for their open border cabal.
His denial of the 25 billion offered to him by Pelosi and Schummer and later in a bipartisan immigration bill ALSO has exasperated the situation, especially after he had said to just come up with a plan and he would sign it.... but he didn't.
He loves the chaos he has intentionally done, because he can now claim Democrats are for open borders and this puts him in a position to tell his sheeple, I tried to get you the wall.... but no one will let me.... imo
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Yeah, it's the Trump's tweets that are at fault here. Not the democrats who are preventing any and all border security by any means possible.
Care4all, if you care for yourself you shut off the CNN that is poisoning your mind.
The democrats are for open borders as the thread has proven again, and again.