Outrage at LAPD over video of cop filmed dragging teen off train cos she 'had her feet on the seat'

[harmonica]

Wrong about no harm done. If she didn't comply and he just walked away her respect for the rules and law would decrease. It's the main reason I also support pot legalization and gambling legalization. (and maybe controlled prostitution legalization),.

When we have laws people know they can ignore it's a direct attack on the rule of law, and people's respect for law.

Sorry, no. Do you think her respect for the law was served by being dragged off traumatized, humiliated, wrist sprained? I guarantee you she is simply MORE obstinate and distrustful now as is a lot of people reading her story. HARM DONE. His walking away was an act of faith, of trust. It is all about psychology. If she wasn't going to take her foot down voluntarily then, her feelings about the law would have simply remained the same. Maybe later as he passed by again, he might have thanked her for putting the foot down, or simply stopped again with a friendly reminder that she shouldn't put her feet up there. Just a gentle nudging in the right direction. A few seconds of friendship sure beats HOURS of time spent at the scene arresting her, paperwork, and time in court. Now he's off the street where he could have been doing some good. He would have shown her FAR MORE by having the power to FORCE her to comply yet was big enough not to. It might have changed her attitude a lot about cops, about men. It's a matter of psychology, of getting what you want with as little resistance as possible. Baby steps. They all begin with the police who are our First Representative of the law to the people. Save the rough stuff for those who really deserve it.

She was breaking the rules, she paid for it. Follow the rules or get the rules changed.

If she's smart she will learn the proper life lesson from this. If she's not she probably was a miserable little shit to begin with.

And then of course you have people like you cheering on her disrespect for the rules and their enforcement, which will probably encourage her to be more of an ass.

I don't cheer anyone's disrespect. But it was once a rule for blacks to sit in the back of the bus. It was once a rule that they had to eat and go to the bathroom in separate places. The question isn't whether it was a rule or law, but whether it was a just law. Was it reasonable to make that big a deal out of how she sat? It is one thing to teach respect of the law, quite another to teach FEAR of it. Better follow every law without objection------ OR ELSE! We gonna come BUST yer head open!

That's not the world I want my kids to grow up in. When federal laws were first codified in 1927, they fit into a single volume. By the 1980s, there were 50 volumes of more than 23,000 pages. How many are there today? And that does not even count state and local laws. The problem wasn't a little girl who just could not see why a cop was so adamant about how she chose to sit to be comfortable, it is the blind willingness of many to accept just about ANY imposition on their freedoms to CONFORM, the intrusion of government into almost every aspect of your life. The funny thing is that many of the people saying the girl deserved it for not simply blindly jumping unquestionably to the officer's demands are the exact same people who decry Trump for passing laws and regulations, then encouraging others to ignore and disobey them.

yes, segregation has nothing to do with this
a just law?? --so now the cops have to worry if the laws are just?? !!?? what??
this is very simple....you are making it out to be complicated
the rules are--no feet on seats
the cop repeatedly asked her to get them off--he was telling her nicely--he wasn't being a jerk/tough guy!!
the cop was right to tell her to get her feet off
she refused

again---when the cops tell you to drop the weapon/get your feet off the seat--I guess you want the cops to just go back to their cars/station and let everyone do what they want--because that's what you are saying

rules are --no feet on seats---...what should the cop have done??

It's funny to watch someone protest as much as you do over the rights of a little girl to be treated humanely in a situation over a "law" so stupid and minor, it borders on telling you what hand to hold your fork with. I bet they don't even do that for kids in school buses! If that was your wife or daughter calling you from the hospital saying to come pick her up because a cop broke her wrist for sitting wrong, you would be all over that telephone in 5 minutes looking to sue the cop! I didn't see ONE PERSON in that video defending the cop's actions or chastising the girl! They BEGGED the cop to be reasonable but he would not stop. I'll say it again. IT'S A STUPID LAW. The fault here is with the LA imbecile who wrote it.

''rights of the little girl''--propaganda BS

again what should the cop have done?? let her break the rules?? then he would have to let EVERYONE--including adults--break the rule

by your reasoning, everyone should be able to argue with the cop about if the laws are stupid or not
I don't think it's a stupid rule

 

[harmonica]

Wrong about no harm done. If she didn't comply and he just walked away her respect for the rules and law would decrease. It's the main reason I also support pot legalization and gambling legalization. (and maybe controlled prostitution legalization),.

When we have laws people know they can ignore it's a direct attack on the rule of law, and people's respect for law.

Sorry, no. Do you think her respect for the law was served by being dragged off traumatized, humiliated, wrist sprained? I guarantee you she is simply MORE obstinate and distrustful now as is a lot of people reading her story. HARM DONE. His walking away was an act of faith, of trust. It is all about psychology. If she wasn't going to take her foot down voluntarily then, her feelings about the law would have simply remained the same. Maybe later as he passed by again, he might have thanked her for putting the foot down, or simply stopped again with a friendly reminder that she shouldn't put her feet up there. Just a gentle nudging in the right direction. A few seconds of friendship sure beats HOURS of time spent at the scene arresting her, paperwork, and time in court. Now he's off the street where he could have been doing some good. He would have shown her FAR MORE by having the power to FORCE her to comply yet was big enough not to. It might have changed her attitude a lot about cops, about men. It's a matter of psychology, of getting what you want with as little resistance as possible. Baby steps. They all begin with the police who are our First Representative of the law to the people. Save the rough stuff for those who really deserve it.

She was breaking the rules, she paid for it. Follow the rules or get the rules changed.

If she's smart she will learn the proper life lesson from this. If she's not she probably was a miserable little shit to begin with.

And then of course you have people like you cheering on her disrespect for the rules and their enforcement, which will probably encourage her to be more of an ass.

I don't cheer anyone's disrespect. But it was once a rule for blacks to sit in the back of the bus. It was once a rule that they had to eat and go to the bathroom in separate places. The question isn't whether it was a rule or law, but whether it was a just law. Was it reasonable to make that big a deal out of how she sat? It is one thing to teach respect of the law, quite another to teach FEAR of it. Better follow every law without objection------ OR ELSE! We gonna come BUST yer head open!

That's not the world I want my kids to grow up in. When federal laws were first codified in 1927, they fit into a single volume. By the 1980s, there were 50 volumes of more than 23,000 pages. How many are there today? And that does not even count state and local laws. The problem wasn't a little girl who just could not see why a cop was so adamant about how she chose to sit to be comfortable, it is the blind willingness of many to accept just about ANY imposition on their freedoms to CONFORM, the intrusion of government into almost every aspect of your life. The funny thing is that many of the people saying the girl deserved it for not simply blindly jumping unquestionably to the officer's demands are the exact same people who decry Trump for passing laws and regulations, then encouraging others to ignore and disobey them.

yes, segregation has nothing to do with this
a just law?? --so now the cops have to worry if the laws are just?? !!?? what??
this is very simple....you are making it out to be complicated
the rules are--no feet on seats
the cop repeatedly asked her to get them off--he was telling her nicely--he wasn't being a jerk/tough guy!!
the cop was right to tell her to get her feet off
she refused

again---when the cops tell you to drop the weapon/get your feet off the seat--I guess you want the cops to just go back to their cars/station and let everyone do what they want--because that's what you are saying

rules are --no feet on seats---...what should the cop have done??

It's funny to watch someone protest as much as you do over the rights of a little girl to be treated humanely in a situation over a "law" so stupid and minor, it borders on telling you what hand to hold your fork with. I bet they don't even do that for kids in school buses! If that was your wife or daughter calling you from the hospital saying to come pick her up because a cop broke her wrist for sitting wrong, you would be all over that telephone in 5 minutes looking to sue the cop! I didn't see ONE PERSON in that video defending the cop's actions or chastising the girl! They BEGGED the cop to be reasonable but he would not stop. I'll say it again. IT'S A STUPID LAW. The fault here is with the LA imbecile who wrote it.

it is you that is making a mountain out of a mole hill
don't try to reverse that crap

just like the comments in the article:

Another mountain out of a molehill with this young woman making it all happen. If a cop tells you to do something then you do it and if you're not happy make a complaint later but you don't rebel and refuse their orders ever.

Follow the rules and you won't get kicked off the train, it's not rocket science. Typical spoiled millennial.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Public Transportation is where muggers and their victims rendezvous

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

CA has gone third world.
The middle class should flee while they still can.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Stupid rules are stupid

I'd prefer not to sit in a seat that could potentially have dog shit on it from someone's shoes.

So a shit stain from an unwashed ass crack is any different?

If you're that much of a germophobe don't take public transportation

I wouldnt think there'd be to many naked people on the train.
Germaphobe...lol.
I kill animals in the woods,skin em and roast em over the fire on a stick.
It really boils down to common courtesy and good manners.

And you're worried about a dirty shoe?

She wasn't bothering or disturbing anyone else it would have been good manners if everyone minded their own business.

But hey a homeless dude who reeks of urine and shit and has 6 inch long fingernails with enough dirt under them to grow potatoes can ride the train as long as he keeps his feet on the floor

 

[Skull Pilot]

Stupid rules are stupid

Feet belong on the FLOOR, not on the furniture. I learned thst as a three year old.

Really? You never ever put your feet up on the couch a desk or a coffee table?

And I don't define a plastic molded seat on a train as furniture.

So the fuck what if she had her foot tucked under her if she wasn't taking up 2 seats or bothering anyone else?

The little blue man in his little blue suit just needed to feel important that day.

Lopez says that before the sergeant dragged Nava off the train, he had repeatedly asked her to remove her feet from a train seat. Metro’s code of conduct stipulates that riders are not to put their feet on seats.

LAPD sergeant drags rider from train after she puts her feet on a seat
he asked repeatedly---he was not trying to be a jerk

see my previous post--the cop is not wrong--the girl is

We disagree.

This little blue man just wanted to feel like a tough guy

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Stupid rules are stupid

I'd prefer not to sit in a seat that could potentially have dog shit on it from someone's shoes.

So a shit stain from an unwashed ass crack is any different?

If you're that much of a germophobe don't take public transportation

I wouldnt think there'd be to many naked people on the train.
Germaphobe...lol.
I kill animals in the woods,skin em and roast em over the fire on a stick.
It really boils down to common courtesy and good manners.

And you're worried about a dirty shoe?

She wasn't bothering or disturbing anyone else it would have been good manners if everyone minded their own business.

But hey a homeless dude who reeks of urine and shit and has 6 inch long fingernails with enough dirt under them to grow potatoes can ride the train as long as he keeps his feet on the floor

In my admittedly brief exposure to public transportation in Houston you really didnt see homeless people,they saved that money for drugs or liquor.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Stupid rules are stupid

I'd prefer not to sit in a seat that could potentially have dog shit on it from someone's shoes.

So a shit stain from an unwashed ass crack is any different?

If you're that much of a germophobe don't take public transportation

I wouldnt think there'd be to many naked people on the train.
Germaphobe...lol.
I kill animals in the woods,skin em and roast em over the fire on a stick.
It really boils down to common courtesy and good manners.

And you're worried about a dirty shoe?

She wasn't bothering or disturbing anyone else it would have been good manners if everyone minded their own business.

But hey a homeless dude who reeks of urine and shit and has 6 inch long fingernails with enough dirt under them to grow potatoes can ride the train as long as he keeps his feet on the floor

In my admittedly brief exposure to public transportation in Houston you really didnt see homeless people,they saved that money for drugs or liquor.

Go to NYC or Boston.

 

[harmonica]

Stupid rules are stupid

Feet belong on the FLOOR, not on the furniture. I learned thst as a three year old.

Really? You never ever put your feet up on the couch a desk or a coffee table?

And I don't define a plastic molded seat on a train as furniture.

So the fuck what if she had her foot tucked under her if she wasn't taking up 2 seats or bothering anyone else?

The little blue man in his little blue suit just needed to feel important that day.

Lopez says that before the sergeant dragged Nava off the train, he had repeatedly asked her to remove her feet from a train seat. Metro’s code of conduct stipulates that riders are not to put their feet on seats.

LAPD sergeant drags rider from train after she puts her feet on a seat
he asked repeatedly---he was not trying to be a jerk

see my previous post--the cop is not wrong--the girl is

We disagree.

This little blue man just wanted to feel like a tough guy

he appears very calm.....he doesn't seem like a jerk cop
the train looks very crowded--

here--I think this cop should've at least got fired--if not charged with something
...he is a complete jerk
this is abuse of power/out of control jerk...starts around the 6:00 mark
Ohio Officer Threatens CCW Holder - Videos - POLICE Magazine

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

LAPD cop filmed dragging woman off train for feet on seat | Daily Mail Online

She didn't get dragged off because she had her feet on the seat. She got dragged off because she's a disrespectful little snot who refused a simple order. The anti-cop mentality in this country is absurd.

Little piece of shit.

The Taming of the Shrew

With her attitude, she's going to get slapped around a lot by even wimpy boyfriends. Outside the myopic PC view, the video shows us an example of how most of the femininnies' complaints are self-inflicted because of their infuriating nagging and a conceited lack of manners.

 

[bodecea]

Good....sad to say, I don't think that will get her to have manners...it's too late now for her.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'd prefer not to sit in a seat that could potentially have dog shit on it from someone's shoes.

So a shit stain from an unwashed ass crack is any different?

If you're that much of a germophobe don't take public transportation

I wouldnt think there'd be to many naked people on the train.
Germaphobe...lol.
I kill animals in the woods,skin em and roast em over the fire on a stick.
It really boils down to common courtesy and good manners.

And you're worried about a dirty shoe?

She wasn't bothering or disturbing anyone else it would have been good manners if everyone minded their own business.

But hey a homeless dude who reeks of urine and shit and has 6 inch long fingernails with enough dirt under them to grow potatoes can ride the train as long as he keeps his feet on the floor

In my admittedly brief exposure to public transportation in Houston you really didnt see homeless people,they saved that money for drugs or liquor.

Go to NYC or Boston.

I'll pass.

 

[Anathema]

Really? You never ever put your feet up on the couch a desk or a coffee table?

Nope. I prefer a nice hard-backed chair most of the time.

So the fuck what if she had her foot tucked under her if she wasn't taking up 2 seats or bothering anyone else?

Society needs rules. Obey them, get them changed, or accept the consequences if you break them.

The little blue man in his little blue suit just needed to feel important that day.

He shoild have shot her. I would have.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Really? You never ever put your feet up on the couch a desk or a coffee table?

Nope. I prefer a nice hard-backed chair most of the time.

So the fuck what if she had her foot tucked under her if she wasn't taking up 2 seats or bothering anyone else?

Society needs rules. Obey them, get them changed, or accept the consequences if you break them.

The little blue man in his little blue suit just needed to feel important that day.

He shoild have shot her. I would have.

Society does not need stupid or arbitrary rules

 

[Anathema]

Society does not need stupid or arbitrary rules

Actually, the seemingly small, not picky rules are the ones we need the most. They teach people the Obedience necessary to get the to follow the larger rules.

I would have been totally in favor of thus officer dragging her off the train, to a set of stocks and giving her 10-20 strokes with a rattan cane.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Society does not need stupid or arbitrary rules

Actually, the seemingly small, not picky rules are the ones we need the most. They teach people the Obedience necessary to get the to follow the larger rules.

I would have been totally in favor of thus officer dragging her off the train, to a set of stocks and giving her 10-20 strokes with a rattan cane.

We disagree.

Blind obedience is never to be fostered.

 

[Anathema]

We disagree.

Blind obedience is never to be fostered.

Obedience is the only thing that keeps Society together.

 

[JoeB131]

LAPD cop filmed dragging woman off train for feet on seat | Daily Mail Online

She didn't get dragged off because she had her feet on the seat. She got dragged off because she's a disrespectful little snot who refused a simple order. The anti-cop mentality in this country is absurd.

She needs to RTFM:

Metro's 28 page customer code of conduct states that 'placing feet or shoes on seats or furnishings' is prohibited disorderly conduct, which may be penalized with a warning and/or ejection from the train.

Read more: LAPD cop filmed dragging woman off train for feet on seat | Daily Mail Online
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And the Kleins should have baked the fucking cake like the rules said!

Oh, wait, what?

This cop needs to be fired, TODAY!

Before he has to assert his 'manliness" by shooting someone.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Stupid rules are stupid

Feet belong on the FLOOR, not on the furniture. I learned thst as a three year old.

Really? You never ever put your feet up on the couch a desk or a coffee table?

And I don't define a plastic molded seat on a train as furniture.

So the fuck what if she had her foot tucked under her if she wasn't taking up 2 seats or bothering anyone else?

The little blue man in his little blue suit just needed to feel important that day.

Lopez says that before the sergeant dragged Nava off the train, he had repeatedly asked her to remove her feet from a train seat. Metro’s code of conduct stipulates that riders are not to put their feet on seats.

LAPD sergeant drags rider from train after she puts her feet on a seat
he asked repeatedly---he was not trying to be a jerk

see my previous post--the cop is not wrong--the girl is

We disagree.

This little blue man just wanted to feel like a tough guy

And this is why cops shoot people....

 

[JoeB131]

And this is why cops shoot people....

Because they are insecure bullies someone gave a badge and a gun to?