Pelosi and House Democrats Screw Up Everything Again

[Redfish]

I don't know if you realize this or not. But corporations have been really fucked over by the virus. And many joints may not be reopening if this last much longer. Unless help is provided to corporations, these people will lose their jobs permanently and become permanent wards of the state.

Workers must be protected in the meantime! That's who the Democrats are trying to protect. Trump and McConnell don't really give a shit about them.

How does not sending the checks protect workers?

 

[Penelope]

Nearly every industry is sending its lobbyists to ask Congress for handouts, including the private jet industry.

The coal industry wants permission to stop making payments to miners with black lung disease.

The hotel industry alone has requested a $150 billion bailout, which would help President Donald Trump endure the cancelled bookings at his resorts.

Analysis | Washington Is About to Pick Which Companies Survive

Even with the biggest economic bailout ever, a lot of firms won't make it through the coronavirus crisis. How should Congress handle the triage?

www.politico.com

And we should know who gets a bail out.

Everyone notice their term that won't fly: 'Bail out'

Penny that's pathetic. Enjoy your little run of being able to order us around; I expect Whitmer has about another week of it before we all rebel, say screw you and open up our businesses anyway

I know how deeply that will disappoint you

We'll see, Whitmer is doing a great job.

I think today and the next couple of days is the turning point on this. The fatality rate hovers at around 1% in the most affected states and, of course, nationwide. Not even CLOSE to being worth an economic disaster.

This is done for you doomsday lovers. Get over it.

Shows how much you value life, because in my book there is no heaven, there is nothing.

Ah...........so you are a Godless Heathen...............clears up a lot about you..........Why Lying doesn't bother you.

Informative post.......but there is no informative button............bummer

It's no secret I'm an unbeliever and I despise liars, just one of the reasons I despise tramp. Can't take the Catholic out of me.

 

[Rambunctious]

This is just another example of democrats not caring about anything but themselves....

Collins blasts Democrats for blocking coronavirus stimulus plan, says they’re ‘playing with fire’

Senate Democrats late Sunday blocked a GOP-backed $1.3 trillion coronavirus rescue package as five Republicans watched helplessly from self-quarantine, prompting U.S. stock futures to dive and sowing fresh doubt the parties can forge an agreement as the nation descends into economic disaster.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Rambunctious]

Are there any adults in the democrat party?...or are they all infantile little pigs?....caring only about winning not governing....

 

[Dragonlady]

Here is Mconnell response.

McConnell After Dems Block Relief Bill: “People Expect Us To Act…This Obstruction Achieves Nothing"

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that “people expect us to act” and “this obstruction achieves nothing," when McConnell spoke on the Senate floor ...

t.co

The bill provided a multi-billion dollar slush fund to be paid out to businesses at the discretion of Steve Mnuchin and Donald Trump, with no accountability or strings attached. Since both Trump and Mnuchin has demonstrated an incredible capacity for corruption and self-dealing, it would be fiscally irresponsible to give these men billions of dollars to spend without accountability.

Thank you Nancy Pelosi.

Right, trump is going to spend all that money on trump hotels. With an election looming, trump is going to give the money to his buddies, politically loading a gun, handing it to them dems, putting his mouth on the barrel, then using their finger to pull the trigger. That makes total sense.

There was a 30 hour period to discuss extra terms that the GOP would’ve signed off on anything just to get this passed. So either the dems who co-wrote this are evil scum as well, or this is just playing politics so the headline reads pelosi and house pass relief bill, instead of bipartisan relief bill passed in senate.

Trump is just that careless and stupid, and yes he will. Trump has been putting a gun to his own head and pulling the trigger endelessly throughout his administration. Separating families, attempting to extort the Ukrainians, spending every weekend golfing on the public dime. There is absolutely no evidence that the Administration will spend the money wisely or well. That lesson was learned with the TARP relieve in 2008.

 

[eagle1462010]

Nearly every industry is sending its lobbyists to ask Congress for handouts, including the private jet industry.

The coal industry wants permission to stop making payments to miners with black lung disease.

The hotel industry alone has requested a $150 billion bailout, which would help President Donald Trump endure the cancelled bookings at his resorts.

Analysis | Washington Is About to Pick Which Companies Survive

Even with the biggest economic bailout ever, a lot of firms won't make it through the coronavirus crisis. How should Congress handle the triage?

www.politico.com

And we should know who gets a bail out.

Everyone notice their term that won't fly: 'Bail out'

Penny that's pathetic. Enjoy your little run of being able to order us around; I expect Whitmer has about another week of it before we all rebel, say screw you and open up our businesses anyway

I know how deeply that will disappoint you

We'll see, Whitmer is doing a great job.

I think today and the next couple of days is the turning point on this. The fatality rate hovers at around 1% in the most affected states and, of course, nationwide. Not even CLOSE to being worth an economic disaster.

This is done for you doomsday lovers. Get over it.

Shows how much you value life, because in my book there is no heaven, there is nothing.

Ah...........so you are a Godless Heathen...............clears up a lot about you..........Why Lying doesn't bother you.

Informative post.......but there is no informative button............bummer

It's no secret I'm an unbeliever and I despise liars, just one of the reasons I despise tramp. Can't take the Catholic out of me.

Well good for you...........We couldn't tell you despise Trump though......Wow what a REVELATIONS.

 

[2aguy]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Because the democrats want to burn the economy into the ground to get Trump and to get power........a Great Depression works for them..... and they don't care who they hurt to get that depression.

 

[Redfish]

the dems blocked the bi-partisan bill because it did not have abortion funding in it. WTF? Is abortion the only issue that matters to the dems? WHY?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The Dems blocked it because they wanted every family to have at least 2 abortions a year...

Damn you Nancy!!!!!

 

[Redfish]

Here is Mconnell response.

McConnell After Dems Block Relief Bill: “People Expect Us To Act…This Obstruction Achieves Nothing"

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that “people expect us to act” and “this obstruction achieves nothing," when McConnell spoke on the Senate floor ...

t.co

The bill provided a multi-billion dollar slush fund to be paid out to businesses at the discretion of Steve Mnuchin and Donald Trump, with no accountability or strings attached. Since both Trump and Mnuchin has demonstrated an incredible capacity for corruption and self-dealing, it would be fiscally irresponsible to give these men billions of dollars to spend without accountability.

Thank you Nancy Pelosi.

Right, trump is going to spend all that money on trump hotels. With an election looming, trump is going to give the money to his buddies, politically loading a gun, handing it to them dems, putting his mouth on the barrel, then using their finger to pull the trigger. That makes total sense.

There was a 30 hour period to discuss extra terms that the GOP would’ve signed off on anything just to get this passed. So either the dems who co-wrote this are evil scum as well, or this is just playing politics so the headline reads pelosi and house pass relief bill, instead of bipartisan relief bill passed in senate.

Trump is just that careless and stupid, and yes he will. Trump has been putting a gun to his own head and pulling the trigger endelessly throughout his administration. Separating families, attempting to extort the Ukrainians, spending every weekend golfing on the public dime. There is absolutely no evidence that the Administration will spend the money wisely or well. That lesson was learned with the TARP relieve in 2008.

and who was president in 2008? Hint: not Trump

 

[2aguy]

Socialism! Save us!

The government is shutting business down, while those business and workers are loosing money every minute, especially in their 401ks. Its not like this was their choice. There’s this thing called a pandemic going around. This is what a fed government is for, to provide relief when they do shit like shut everything down because there’s a new virus that’s going to be overrunning our hospitals if we don’t. Also, it’s not socialism if it’s temporary in a time of crisis dipshit, nor is it socialism in the first place...I mean I shouldn’t have to explain this, but socialism is government taking over the means production. That’s not what’s happening, they’re giving money to cities and states that are about to get their asses handed to them through unemployment. We don’t call it socialism when we go to war, or draft a new anti-terrorism security bill, because it isn’t. It’s the federal government doing what it’s supposed too. Jesus fuck, Bernie Bro’s are the stupidest people on the planet, they love socialism but don’t even know what it is. Just over-privileged white kids acting like over-privileged whities. The left 12 years ago used to be somewhat intellectual fueled by empathy...now it’s just following bizarre trends that don’t even make any sense. It’s like they all see the same meme and the same time and hop on the bandwagon all at the same time. No thinking involved, I’ve never seen anything like it

The democrat party members of the press are pushing panic and hysteria....the democrat party members in congress are blocking aid in order to increase the panic and the economic collapse......the democrat party governors are shutting down their states to wreck the economy........

Articles at American Thinker point out that Dr. Fauci, or the new James Comey.......did not suggest closing schools, restaruants or the economy when he was in charge during the H1N1 flu outbreak....instead, he said the opposite....

What did Dr. Fauci have to say in 2009 about the deadly H1N1 pandemic?

Update. See also: Video shows Dr Fauci understood the danger of children returning to school in H1N1 pandemic but downplayed the risk It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant T...

www.americanthinker.com

It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant Trump economy to the ground.

In September 2009, after millions had become infected with the H1N1 influenza and thousands had died, some of whom were young people and children, a relaxed and unalarmed Dr. Anthony Fauci told an interviewer that people just need "to use good judgment."

"Parents should not send their kids to school if they're sick, if you're sick don't go to work ... avoid places where there are people who are sick and coughing, now that's a difficult thing to do,” he said. "...You can't isolate yourself from the rest of the world for the whole flu season." That’s quite a change from the esteemed expert’s views on the current virus from China sweeping the world.
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Additionally, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Dr. Fauci specifically mention restaurants and bars as hot spots for the transmission of the H1N1 virus as he does in his recent interview with Yahoo News: “When I see crowded bars and crowded restaurants, it is a little bit unnerving,” Fauci said. "It’s clear that those are the situations that put people very much at risk." Talk about wielding power. Take a look around the country. Local and state officials have heeded Fauci’s “unnerving” concern and ordered restaurants to close their dining areas, or adhere to a 10-person limit. In cities and small towns everywhere, the restaurant industry, which includes owners, suppliers, chefs, line cooks, waitstaff, and bartenders, has been decimated.

Restaurants and bar owners, along with their employees, are the hardest hit economically by the virus. In my city of Richmond, Virginia, 75% to 80% of restaurant staff have been laid off. One hundred restaurants have closed and those not following Governor Ralph ‘Blackface' Northam's 10-person limit have been advised they could lose their business licenses and possibly risk police action if they do not comply. Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci lamented to Yahoo! News that he is unable to get his usual seven-mile daily run in due to his 19-hour days helping the American people, but he's hopeful "sometime soon we’ll get back to some normality where I can exercise the way I like to exercise."

Lastly, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Fauci use inflammatory, fear-inducing rhetoric, despite the number of H1N1-infected individuals, increased hospitalizations and deaths occurring at that time. Eleven years later, on March 11, 2020, Fauci is gung ho about COVID-19, warning lawmakers at a hearing on Capitol Hill: "Bottom line, it's going to get worse." Since then, the renowned AIDS epidemiologist has been seen daily at White House press conferences and on cable news shows reiterating this message to the public.

For all of Dr. Fauci’s daily appearances and scientific evaluations of the data, questions still abound. For example: Why did Dr. Fauci not sound the alarm in 2009 as urgently as he has done in 2020? Why did he not insist we 'force' hospitals to cancel elective tests and surgeries to save room for future infected patients during the H1N1 outbreak? Why did he pointedly target restaurants and bars in his concern for the spread of the coronavirus but not H1N1? As a specialist in infectious diseases, and as a self-described "man of science," why support the closing of schools, businesses, and home quarantine for one virus and not the other?

 

[Polishprince]

The bill created with bipartisan support in the senate, with many concessions made by the GOP, was shot down as Nancy Pelosi (a congresswoman not a senator) stepped in last minute with a list of demands. The bill promised 1.8 trillion in relief to individual families with a 3,000$ check, 500 billion to financially aid states and cities in need, and support for business loosing money that have been forced to shut down.

Because the democrats want to burn the economy into the ground to get Trump and to get power........a Great Depression works for them..... and they don't care who they hurt to get that depression.

The Great Depression were the salad days, the high point of Ultraliberalism and the Democrat Party in America. FDR was a virtual dictator, unionism grew, unemployment stayed Sky High until Japan pulled Pearl Harbor job on us in Hawaii. All kinds of risky schemes were cooked up by Roosevelt,he invented welfare, unemployment checks, the Projects, you name it and had teeming masses of low information voters backing him.

The Dems would love a New Depression.

 

[depotoo]

the dems blocked the bi-partisan bill because it did not have abortion funding in it. WTF? Is abortion the only issue that matters to the dems? WHY?

Actually, they are also blocking it because they want to add some socializing/nationalizing of the healthcare system.

 

[bendog]

Pelosi says House will draft its own coronavirus funding bill
Senate Republicans and OUR President are trying to help the situation during this time of crisis, but House Democrats throw a monkey wrench into the motor again. Great job Pelosi on wasting precious time and resources trying to overturn election 2016 with your dumbassed impeachment. Bunch of buffoons.

The Senate went away for a long weekend after the House passed their bill, so stop with the bullshit and lies. Trump ignored this pandemic for two months telling the American people it was yet another "hoax" to bring down his presidency, so stop complaining about the Democrats. Trump has done nothing to slow or stop this virus other than ban people coming from China.

Donald Trump has frittered away American lives with his lies, his incompetence, and his fear that the virus would disrupt his election chances. So stop blaming Pelosi or the Democrats. They're not the ones who are failing this leadership test on a daily basis.

But the House bill has already been passed by the Senate and signed into law. Pelosi has been AWOL for a week.

Trump signs off on coronavirus aid bill

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said that while the bill has "imperfections," it was "time for urgent, bipartisan action."

news.yahoo.com

 

[MadChemist]

I think today and the next couple of days is the turning point on this. The fatality rate hovers at around 1% in the most affected states and, of course, nationwide. Not even CLOSE to being worth an economic disaster.

This is done for you doomsday lovers. Get over it.

You realize a fatality rate of 1% is kind of bad, right? I mean I know math is one of those subjects you struggle with.

If One Percent of the population of the US died from Covid-19 (Trump Plague), that would be 3 million deaths. That actually would be an economic disaster.

I think it would be a tragedy.

But how would it be an economic disaster ?

With a life span of 75 years, that means that the population turns over every 75 years. That is a death rate above 1% per year. Which is consistent with other numbers if I am doing the math correctly.

I don't want to see it happen and I pray it does not.

But I am not sure how it is an economic disaster.

 

[jknowgood]

I don't know if you realize this or not. But corporations have been really fucked over by the virus. And many joints may not be reopening if this last much longer. Unless help is provided to corporations, these people will lose their jobs permanently and become permanent wards of the state.

Workers must be protected in the meantime! That's who the Democrats are trying to protect. Trump and McConnell don't really give a shit about them.

Well how many are you gonna feed while Pelosi tries to slip more crap into the bill.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Why people keep claiming this is about abortion is baffling to me -- unless they don't mind being outright liars....

There are now 5 GOP senators in SQ --- one of them actually has the virus -- which means the GOP majority is now 48-47 --- now there is a bill that will allow for remote voting, but guess who opposed it?? Moscow Mitch....

So the Democrats don't want this package to be just another bailout for corporations in which they can use that money to do stock-buy backs while still laying off workers that the bill was SUPPOSED to be helping....I am sure the GOP will claim the Democrats created the virus to kill Americans or whatever BS they lying about this week -- and the Dems will cave and the bill will pass with no oversight on the corporations..

"Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren echoed that message, saying that there is "great unhappiness" in the Democratic caucus about the proposal as it currently stands. The Massachusetts senator cited the proposed $500 billion fund for distressed companies, which she complained lacked restrictions."This is not a bipartisan proposal," Warren said. "This is a Republican proposal."

Senate GOP ramps up pressure on Democrats with Monday vote

Hours after Senate Democrats blocked movement on a massive stimulus package Sunday evening, injecting fresh uncertainty over whether and when lawmakers will reach a bipartisan deal to deliver relief amid the devastating coronavirus pandemic, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell ramped up the...

www.cnn.com

 

[Dragonlady]

Speaker Pelosi is trying to protect workers against the Republican slush fund to corporations! Go Nancy!

horseshit, she was trying to get abortion funding included in the relief bill

Why TF is abortion the number one issue with democrats? Why is it so damn important to them to be able to kill unborn human beings at will?

No she was not. That's the lie McConnell is telling you but there was no such provision. But there was a provision that the economy would not be stalled for more than two weeks. A White House controlled "business bailout" slush fund for controlled by the President, who holds grudges and keeps enemies lists. He can't even account for his Inauguration Fund. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[kyzr]

the dems blocked the bi-partisan bill because it did not have abortion funding in it. WTF? Is abortion the only issue that matters to the dems? WHY?

If the dems don't pass any Bill, who will suffer more, republican voters or democrat voters?

 

[OldLady]

Socialism! Save us!

The government is shutting business down, while those business and workers are loosing money every minute, especially in their 401ks. Its not like this was their choice. There’s this thing called a pandemic going around. This is what a fed government is for, to provide relief when they do shit like shut everything down because there’s a new virus that’s going to be overrunning our hospitals if we don’t. Also, it’s not socialism if it’s temporary in a time of crisis dipshit, nor is it socialism in the first place...I mean I shouldn’t have to explain this, but socialism is government taking over the means production. That’s not what’s happening, they’re giving money to cities and states that are about to get their asses handed to them through unemployment. We don’t call it socialism when we go to war, or draft a new anti-terrorism security bill, because it isn’t. It’s the federal government doing what it’s supposed too. Jesus fuck, Bernie Bro’s are the stupidest people on the planet, they love socialism but don’t even know what it is. Just over-privileged white kids acting like over-privileged whities. The left 12 years ago used to be somewhat intellectual fueled by empathy...now it’s just following bizarre trends that don’t even make any sense. It’s like they all see the same meme and the same time and hop on the bandwagon all at the same time. No thinking involved, I’ve never seen anything like it

The democrat party members of the press are pushing panic and hysteria....the democrat party members in congress are blocking aid in order to increase the panic and the economic collapse......the democrat party governors are shutting down their states to wreck the economy........

Articles at American Thinker point out that Dr. Fauci, or the new James Comey.......did not suggest closing schools, restaruants or the economy when he was in charge during the H1N1 flu outbreak....instead, he said the opposite....

What did Dr. Fauci have to say in 2009 about the deadly H1N1 pandemic?

Update. See also: Video shows Dr Fauci understood the danger of children returning to school in H1N1 pandemic but downplayed the risk It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant T...

www.americanthinker.com

It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant Trump economy to the ground.

In September 2009, after millions had become infected with the H1N1 influenza and thousands had died, some of whom were young people and children, a relaxed and unalarmed Dr. Anthony Fauci told an interviewer that people just need "to use good judgment."

"Parents should not send their kids to school if they're sick, if you're sick don't go to work ... avoid places where there are people who are sick and coughing, now that's a difficult thing to do,” he said. "...You can't isolate yourself from the rest of the world for the whole flu season." That’s quite a change from the esteemed expert’s views on the current virus from China sweeping the world.
-----

Additionally, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Dr. Fauci specifically mention restaurants and bars as hot spots for the transmission of the H1N1 virus as he does in his recent interview with Yahoo News: “When I see crowded bars and crowded restaurants, it is a little bit unnerving,” Fauci said. "It’s clear that those are the situations that put people very much at risk." Talk about wielding power. Take a look around the country. Local and state officials have heeded Fauci’s “unnerving” concern and ordered restaurants to close their dining areas, or adhere to a 10-person limit. In cities and small towns everywhere, the restaurant industry, which includes owners, suppliers, chefs, line cooks, waitstaff, and bartenders, has been decimated.

Restaurants and bar owners, along with their employees, are the hardest hit economically by the virus. In my city of Richmond, Virginia, 75% to 80% of restaurant staff have been laid off. One hundred restaurants have closed and those not following Governor Ralph ‘Blackface' Northam's 10-person limit have been advised they could lose their business licenses and possibly risk police action if they do not comply. Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci lamented to Yahoo! News that he is unable to get his usual seven-mile daily run in due to his 19-hour days helping the American people, but he's hopeful "sometime soon we’ll get back to some normality where I can exercise the way I like to exercise."

Lastly, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Fauci use inflammatory, fear-inducing rhetoric, despite the number of H1N1-infected individuals, increased hospitalizations and deaths occurring at that time. Eleven years later, on March 11, 2020, Fauci is gung ho about COVID-19, warning lawmakers at a hearing on Capitol Hill: "Bottom line, it's going to get worse." Since then, the renowned AIDS epidemiologist has been seen daily at White House press conferences and on cable news shows reiterating this message to the public.

For all of Dr. Fauci’s daily appearances and scientific evaluations of the data, questions still abound. For example: Why did Dr. Fauci not sound the alarm in 2009 as urgently as he has done in 2020? Why did he not insist we 'force' hospitals to cancel elective tests and surgeries to save room for future infected patients during the H1N1 outbreak? Why did he pointedly target restaurants and bars in his concern for the spread of the coronavirus but not H1N1? As a specialist in infectious diseases, and as a self-described "man of science," why support the closing of schools, businesses, and home quarantine for one virus and not the other?

This is why, but I'm pretty sure you will say it's fake news. If you don't, if you read it all the way through, it will give you some answers.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com