Pentacostal Fire

[Book of Jeremiah]

Well so much for any rational intelligent conversation, Just spewing of bible verses as if they are a magic shield.

Well, they were sufficient for Christ when Satan confronted Him. Are you worse than Satan?

Wherever would you christers be without the satan boogyman? Sure doesn't come from Judaism. Any woner why we laugh at you?

It is written:

I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. - Revelation 2: 9

Aleister Crowley sacrificed children on the altar to Satan. His claim of being a Jew was false. Because scripture says those who serve Satan are of the synagogue of Satan. Do not be deceived. There are many who like Esau have sold their birthright for less than a bowl of soup. They have sold it for a seat in hell. Satan will not be sharing his powers with anyone in hell no matter what "quality" of service his workers provided him while on the earth. Satan is exceedingly cunning and you are no match for him, Guno. So stay out of his territory because you are open season for him and he will devour you. Do I care for your soul? More than you know! Am I upset with you? No. I forgive you because you don't know what you are doing, Guno. You have no idea!

- Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

And as they spake unto the people the priests and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them, being grieved that they taught the people through Jesus the resurrection from the dead. And they laid hands on them, and put them on hold unto the next day; for it was now even-tide.

Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand. And it came to pass on the morrow, that their rulers, and elders, and scribes, And Annas the high priest and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.

And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what means, have ye done this? Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;

Be it known unto all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other; for there in none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4: 1 - 12

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived they were ignorant and unlearned men, they marvelled, and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it.

But when they had commanded them to go aside from the council, they conferred among themselves. Saying, What shall we do with these men? For that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.

But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, that they speak henceforth to no man in this name.

And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.

For we cannot but speak the things we have seen and heard. So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people; for all men glorified God for what he had done.

For the man was above forty years old, on whom this miracle of healing shewed.

And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.

Acts 4: 13: 23

 

[Capstone]

[. . .] *** NOTE You will notice that these early Hebrew Christians would often refer back to the prophecies of the Prophets, King Davids Psalms, to confirm the Word of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus, himself, did this also. This prophecy was fulfilled by choosing another to take Judas's place. The prophecies of Jesus spoken by the Hebrew prophets and King David continued to be fulfilled in the book of Acts and beyond.

I'm gonna go ahead and pretend that little note was inserted for my benefit, whether it actually was or not.

From a 2007 article published in Nexus Magazine under the sub-heading Gospel Authors Exposed as Imposters, Tony Bushby wrote:

"There is something else involved in this scenario and it is recorded in the Catholic Encyclopedia. An appreciation of the clerical mindset arises when the Church itself admits that it does not know who wrote its Gospels and Epistles, confessing that all 27 New Testament writings [from Matthew to Revelation] began life anonymously:

'It thus appears that the present titles of the Gospels are not traceable to the evangelists themselves ... they [the New Testament collection] are supplied with titles which, however ancient, do not go back to the respective authors of those writings.'

(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, pp. 655-6)

The Church maintains that 'the titles of our Gospels were not intended to indicate authorship', adding that 'the headings ... were affixed to them" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. i, p. 117, vol. vi, pp. 655, 656). Therefore they are not Gospels written 'according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John', as publicly stated. The full force of this confession reveals that there are no genuine apostolic Gospels, and that the Church's shadowy writings today embody the very ground and pillar of Christian foundations and faith.

The consequences are fatal to the pretense of Divine origin of the entire New Testament and expose Christian texts as having no special authority. For centuries, fabricated Gospels bore Church certification of authenticity now confessed to be false, and this provides evidence that Christian writings are wholly fallacious.

After years of dedicated New Testament research, Dr Tischendorf expressed dismay at the differences between the oldest and newest Gospels, and had trouble understanding...

'...how scribes could allow themselves to bring in here and there changes which were not simply verbal ones, but such as materially affected the very meaning and, what is worse still, did not shrink from cutting out a passage or inserting one.'
(Alterations to the Sinai Bible, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, 1863, available in the British Library, London)

After years of validating the fabricated nature of the New Testament, a disillusioned Dr Tischendorf confessed that modern-day editions have 'been altered in many places' and are 'not to be accepted as true' (When Were Our Gospels Written?, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, 1865, British Library, London)."


Of course the duplicity of the NT scriptures isn't confined to the realm of spurious authorship. From the same article, under the sub-heading Forgery in the Gospels:

"[. . .]Thus, the Gospel of Mark in the Sinai Bible carries the 'first' story of Jesus Christ in history, one completely different to what is in modern Bibles. It starts with Jesus 'at about the age of thirty' (Mark 1:9), and doesn't know of Mary, a virgin birth or mass murders of baby boys by Herod. Words describing Jesus Christ as 'the son of God' do not appear in the opening narrative as they do in today's editions (Mark 1:1), and the modern-day family tree tracing a 'messianic bloodline' back to King David is non-existent in all ancient Bibles, as are the now-called 'messianic prophecies' (51 in total).

The Sinai Bible carries a conflicting version of events surrounding the 'raising of Lazarus', and reveals an extraordinary omission that later became the central doctrine of the Christian faith: the resurrection appearances of Jesus Christ and his ascension into Heaven. No supernatural appearance of a resurrected Jesus Christ is recorded in any ancient Gospels of Mark, but a description of over 500 words now appears in modern Bibles (Mark 16:9-20).

Despite a multitude of long-drawn-out self-justifications by Church apologists, there is no unanimity of Christian opinion regarding the non-existence of 'resurrection' appearances in ancient Gospel accounts of the story. Not only are those narratives missing in the Sinai Bible, but they are absent in the Alexandrian Bible, the Vatican Bible, the Bezae Bible and an ancient Latin manuscript of Mark, code-named "K" by analysts. They are also lacking in the oldest Armenian version of the New Testament, in sixth-century manuscripts of the Ethiopic version and ninth-century Anglo-Saxon Bibles. However, some 12th-century Gospels have the now-known resurrection verses written within asterisks-marks used by scribes to indicate spurious passages in a literary document.

The Church claims that "the resurrection is the fundamental argument for our Christian belief" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xii, p. 792), yet no supernatural appearance of a resurrected Jesus Christ is recorded in any of the earliest Gospels of Mark available. A resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ is the sine qua non ('without which, nothing') of Christianity (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xii, p. 792), confirmed by words attributed to Paul:

'If Christ has not been raised, your faith is in vain'

(1 Cor. 5:17).

The resurrection verses in today's Gospels of Mark are universally acknowledged as forgeries and the Church agrees, saying,

'the conclusion of Mark is admittedly not genuine ... almost the entire section is a later compilation'

(Encyclopaedia Biblica, vol. ii, p. 1880, vol. iii, pp. 1767, 1781; also, Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. iii, under the heading "The Evidence of its Spuriousness"; Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. iii, pp. 274-9 under heading "Canons").

Undaunted, however, the Church accepted the forgery into its dogma and made it the basis of Christianity.

The trend of fictitious resurrection narratives continues. The final chapter of the Gospel of John (21) is a sixth-century forgery, one entirely devoted to describing Jesus' resurrection to his disciples.

The Church admits:

'The sole conclusion that can be deduced from this is that the 21st chapter was afterwards added and is therefore to be regarded as an appendix to the Gospel'

(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. viii, pp. 441-442; New Catholic Encyclopedia (NCE), "Gospel of John", p. 1080; also NCE, vol. xii, p. 407).[...][bold emphasis Capstone's]"

You've fallen for the ultimate Book of Lies, Jeremiah, and the teetering card-house you've built on top of those lies is utterly without a foundation.

 

[guno]

What a surprise!!

Benny Hinn has YouTube remove videos that criticize him

hopefully one of his victims families take a two by four or a lead pipe to that con artist

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

We are not speaking of Catholicism. The Hebrews Believers were the first early church. Not the Romans. The Romans are the ones who came in and slaughtered the Jews as Guno has read the account of Josephus he knows this, Capstone. Ask him. They are also the ones who put the Christians in the big arenas to let the lions eat them. They have nothing to do with interpretation of Scripture. We do not go by what the Pope speaks. We go by the Word of the Living God and that is the ONLY Word we go by, Capstone.

-Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. For a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with with all boldness they may speak thine hand to heal and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

And when they had prayed the place was shaken where they were assembled together and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and they spake the word of God with boldness.

And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own, but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold.

And laid them down at the apostles feet and distribution was made unto every many according as he had need.

And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, ( which is, being intrepreted, son of consolation ) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus.
Having land, sold it and brought the money and laid it at the apostles feet.

Acts 4: 24 -37

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Guno, in response to your story about youtube being forced to remove the false accusations against Hinn and his wife. There were people telling lies about them and claiming things they never did. never said... . If they decided to defend their ministry that is their decision. I'm sure Youtube didn't want to get sued claiming he had an affair with a woman he didn't have an affair with and other such nonsense. Or perhaps the fear of the LORD came upon them and they decided to do it of their own accord. Who knows..

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

But a certain rich man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles feet. But Peter said, Ananaias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not in thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?

Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? Thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and a great fear came upon all them that heard these things. And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out and buried him.

And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done came in.

And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

Then she fell down straight-way at his feet, and yielded up the ghost and the young men came in, and found her dead, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

And a great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard of these things.

And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; ( and they were all with one accord in Solomon's Porch)

Acts 5: 1-12

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My husband wants me to join him for dinner and a movie. I'll be back after he goes to sleep! God willing! - Jeri

 

[Capstone]

We are not speaking of Catholicism. The Hebrews Believers were the first early church. Not the Romans. They are the ones who came in and slaughtered the Jews as you have read the account of Josephus you should know this, Guno. They are also the ones who put the Christians in the big arenas to let the lions eat them. They have nothing to do with interpretation of Scripture. We do not go by what the Pope speaks. We go by the Word of the Living God and that is the ONLY Word we go by, Guno.

Your ignorance is almost astounding. I say "almost" only because I've been desensitized to the lack of general knowledge of biblical origins among the Christians with whom I've personally been acquainted throughout my life. If you believe in the veracity of your precious KJV Bible, you have the Roman Church Fathers to thank for its very existence, NOT the messianic sect chronicled in the heavily revised/redacted pages of the New Testament.

A fair understanding of how the Romans operated in the years leading up to the Common Era and on through the first several centuries C.E., is really all one needs to reconcile the puzzling circumstances surrounding Christianity's true origin. The Paleo-Christian symbols on Titus's coinage (circ. late 70's C.E.) and in the catacombs of Domitian's niece, Domitilla (circ. early 100's, hint at the nature of early Christianity as a secretive imperial cult, as do the many strange parallels between the writings of Titus's historian, Josephus, and some of the stories in the Gospels (see Joseph Atwill's thesis in Caesar's Messiah).

 

[GISMYS]

We are not speaking of Catholicism. The Hebrews Believers were the first early church. Not the Romans. They are the ones who came in and slaughtered the Jews as you have read the account of Josephus you should know this, Guno. They are also the ones who put the Christians in the big arenas to let the lions eat them. They have nothing to do with interpretation of Scripture. We do not go by what the Pope speaks. We go by the Word of the Living God and that is the ONLY Word we go by, Guno.

Your ignorance is almost astounding. I say "almost" only because I've been desensitized to the lack of general knowledge of biblical origins among the Christians with whom I've personally been acquainted throughout my life. If you believe in the veracity of your precious KJV Bible, you have the Roman Church Fathers to thank for its very existence, NOT the messianic sect chronicled in the heavily revised/redacted pages of the New Testament.

A fair understanding of how the Romans operated in the years leading up to the Common Era and on through the first several centuries C.E., is really all one needs to reconcile the puzzling circumstances surrounding Christianity's true origin. The Paleo-Christian symbols on Titus's coinage (circ. late 70's C.E.) and in the catacombs of Domitian's niece, Domitilla (circ. early 100's, hint at the nature of early Christianity as a secretive imperial cult, as do the many strange parallels between the writings of Titus's historian, Josephus, and some of the stories in the Gospels (see Joseph Atwill's thesis in Caesar's Messiah).

ROMAN EMPEROR WENT TO WAR AND SAW WHAT LOOKED TO HIM TO BE A CROSS IN THE SKY, SO AFTER HE WON THE BATTLE HE SAID HE WAS A "christian" AND ALL ROME WOULD BE CHRISTIAN but to be a real christian you must do more than talk.

 

[Capstone]

We are not speaking of Catholicism. The Hebrews Believers were the first early church. Not the Romans. They are the ones who came in and slaughtered the Jews as you have read the account of Josephus you should know this, Guno. They are also the ones who put the Christians in the big arenas to let the lions eat them. They have nothing to do with interpretation of Scripture. We do not go by what the Pope speaks. We go by the Word of the Living God and that is the ONLY Word we go by, Guno.

Your ignorance is almost astounding. I say "almost" only because I've been desensitized to the lack of general knowledge of biblical origins among the Christians with whom I've personally been acquainted throughout my life. If you believe in the veracity of your precious KJV Bible, you have the Roman Church Fathers to thank for its very existence, NOT the messianic sect chronicled in the heavily revised/redacted pages of the New Testament.

A fair understanding of how the Romans operated in the years leading up to the Common Era and on through the first several centuries C.E., is really all one needs to reconcile the puzzling circumstances surrounding Christianity's true origin. The Paleo-Christian symbols on Titus's coinage (circ. late 70's C.E.) and in the catacombs of Domitian's niece, Domitilla (circ. early 100's, hint at the nature of early Christianity as a secretive imperial cult, as do the many strange parallels between the writings of Titus's historian, Josephus, and some of the stories in the Gospels (see Joseph Atwill's thesis in Caesar's Messiah).

ROMAN EMPEROR WENT TO WAR AND SAW WHAT LOOKED TO HIM TO BE A CROSS IN THE SKY, SO AFTER HE WON THE BATTLE HE SAID HE WAS A "christian" AND ALL ROME WOULD BE CHRISTIAN but to be a real christian you must do more than talk.

That "EMPEROR" was a Flavian, as were Titus and Domitian of mid-to-late first century fame. He simply validated the bastard brainchild of his not-too-distant ancestors.

 

[hobelim]

It is written: blah, blah, blah.


My husband wants me to join him for dinner and a movie. I'll be back after he goes to sleep! God willing! - Jeri

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqaQ_Bhgmrc]Life of Brian - Boring Prophet - YouTube[/ame]

 

[guno]

THE utterly ridiculous gibberish spouted by Pentecostal church members – a thing called speaking in tongues or glossolalia – is fast becoming an embarrassment, it seems, and fewer congregations are indulging in this bilge.

The Freethinker - The voice of atheism since 1881 » Holding their tongues: Pentecostals in the US are giving up on their incomprehensible babbling

 

[guno]

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says


According to the biblical scholar, at least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries, while only seven of the 13 epistles attributed to Paul were probably written by him.

"Virtually all scholars agree that seven of the Pauline letters are authentic: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon," says Ehrman.

Individuals claiming to be Paul wrote 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, 2 Thessalonians, Ephesians and Colossians, he adds.

Contradictory views, discrepancies in the language and the choice of words among the books attributed to Paul are all evidence of this forgery, the author asserts.

For example, Ehrman’s analysis of the book of Ephesians shows that the text, filled with long Greek sentences, doesn’t match with Paul’s peculiar Greek writing style, made of short sentences.

Moreover, the content of what the author says "stands at odds with Paul’s own thought, but is in line with the Ephesians," writes Ehrman.

The biblical scholar, who also challenges the authenticity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John, disputes the assumption that the Apostle Peter wrote the Epistles of Peter or anything else."

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says ? CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

 

[GISMYS]

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says


According to the biblical scholar, at least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries, while only seven of the 13 epistles attributed to Paul were probably written by him.

"Virtually all scholars agree that seven of the Pauline letters are authentic: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon," says Ehrman.

Individuals claiming to be Paul wrote 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, 2 Thessalonians, Ephesians and Colossians, he adds.

Contradictory views, discrepancies in the language and the choice of words among the books attributed to Paul are all evidence of this forgery, the author asserts.

For example, Ehrman’s analysis of the book of Ephesians shows that the text, filled with long Greek sentences, doesn’t match with Paul’s peculiar Greek writing style, made of short sentences.

Moreover, the content of what the author says "stands at odds with Paul’s own thought, but is in line with the Ephesians," writes Ehrman.

The biblical scholar, who also challenges the authenticity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John, disputes the assumption that the Apostle Peter wrote the Epistles of Peter or anything else."

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says ? CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

YES!!! SATAN IS A LIAR and the father of liars!! BEWARE satan's son!!

 

[Capstone]

[. . .]"Virtually all scholars agree that seven of the Pauline letters are authentic: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon," says Ehrman. [...][emphasis Capstone's]

It should be said: the near consensus there alluded to by Ehrman is really one of textual continuity that may indicate either a single author or a tightly-knit team of similarly schooled authors; it doesn't serve as evidence as to the truth or falsity of the texts' attributions of authorship to Paul.

As noted by Robert M. Price,"the Pauline epistles reveal themselves to the discerning reader to have exactly the same sort of limitation as the Gospels do: both are collections of fragments and pericopae contributed and fabricated by authors and communities of very different theological leanings." (The Amazing Colossal Apostle: The Search for the Historical Paul, 2012, pg. 8)

 

[GISMYS]

[. . .]"Virtually all scholars agree that seven of the Pauline letters are authentic: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon," says Ehrman. [...][emphasis Capstone's]

It should be said: the near consensus there alluded to by Ehrman is really one of textual continuity that may indicate either a single author or a tightly-knit team of similarly schooled authors; it doesn't serve as evidence as to the truth or falsity of the texts' attributions of authorship to Paul.

As noted by Robert M. Price,"the Pauline epistles reveal themselves to the discerning reader to have exactly the same sort of limitation as the Gospels do: both are collections of fragments and pericopae contributed and fabricated by authors and communities of very different theological leanings." (The Amazing Colossal Apostle: The Search for the Historical Paul, 2012, pg. 8)

BEWARE!!! BEWARNED!!! I HAVE BEEN POSTING ON MESSAGEBOARDS WORLDWIDE FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND I have senn posters attack GOD and GOD'S word before===THEY LASTED LESS THAN A YEAR AND THEN THEY WERE JUST GONE WITH THE WIND!!!

 

[Vandalshandle]

So THAT'S what happened to Margaret Mitchell!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I'm back! Before we begin let me say that Charles Stanley said that Satans attack is an attempt to get the believer to divide their allegiance to God. Your faith is the target. Because without faith it is impossible to please God. If you do not believe God, you cannot please God. Satan comes to attack and destroy your faith.

It takes faith to do battle with Satan. If you do not have faith you are defeated before you even get started. Have faith in God. Hide God's Word in your heart and when the attack comes declare the Word of God over the situation. Stand on the Word of God and do not be moved by what you see, what you hear, what you "think", what you sense with your five senses... when you are in a spiritual battle you only rely on the Word of God and the Holy Spirit to Guide you. Stay focused. With God you will have the victory every single time. Without God you are wide open to an attack from the enemy. You must be marked by the blood of Jesus Christ and walk in the Spirit.

When you do that? You are going to really enjoy the battle!

I do!

- Jeremiah