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Since Comey and Facebook "fake news" cost Hillary the election - electors have a chance to correct this horrific injustice against our electoral process on December 19.
Who Won the Popular Vote?
Holy crap. Trump winning has driven you completely insane
Ironically, Trump is your best bet by far to shake up the power structure that you're so upset about. Hillary, by contrast, was the extreme status quo insider who would make no waves at all.Since Comey and Facebook "fake news" cost Hillary the election - electors have a chance to correct this horrific injustice against our electoral process on December 19.
Who Won the Popular Vote?
Holy crap. Trump winning has driven you completely insane
Sort of like a bunch of people on the decks of ships in Boston Harbor throwing bales of tea into the sea?
You ass-hats tried this with Gore too.
Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
Electoral College Electors: Electoral College Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
Voters target Electoral College members to switch their Trump ballots, elect Clinton
Great news! There is still time to save America on December 19!
Good luck.
Nope. Wrong, as usual.
Bush v. Gore (2000)
In Bush v. Gore (2000), a divided Supreme Court ruled that the state of Florida's court-ordered manual recount of vote ballots in the 2000 presidential election was unconstitutional. The case proved to be the climax of the contentious presidential race between Vice President Al Gore and Texas Governor George W. Bush. The outcome of the election hinged on Florida, where Governor Bush led Vice President Gore by about 1,800 votes the morning after Election Day. Because the returns were so close, Florida law called for an automatic machine recount of ballots. The recount resulted in a dramatic tightening of the race, leaving Bush with a bare 327-vote lead out of almost 6 million ballots cast. With the race so close, Florida law allowed Gore the option of "manual vote recounts" in the counties of his choosing. Gore opted for manual recounts in four counties with widespread complaints of voting machine malfunction: Broward, Miami-Dade, Volusia, and Palm Beach. However, Florida law also required that the state's election results be certified by the Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, within seven days of the election (by November 14, 2000). Three of the four counties, frantically laboring through the tedious manual recount, were unable to complete the process by the deadline."""""
Nope, losers roll over...Oh wait, no. They get their guns.
Gee, what sore losers you people are.
Yup. Shittingbull just can't believe Hillary lost so she posts all these threads about how she won the popular vote and how things will change.
Hate to tell the dumbass this but Trump won and on January twentieth he will be sworn in as the forty fifth President of the United States.
Wonder if it finally will sink in that Hillary lost and Trump won.
No, this won't stop. It will never stop until Trump leaves office in four or eight years.
After Trump is sworn in, then you'll hear them talk about impeachment or Trump wanting to quit because it's too hard. If Trump does a great job, they will be telling us how it was DumBama's ideas that matured after Trump was elected, even though they've been telling us these last 8 years that Republicans in Congress is what stopped DumBama from creating a great economy. And if he does well, then we will have to go through this all over again in another four years when Trump gets reelected.
Nope, losers roll over...Oh wait, no. They get their guns.
Really? I thought losers stop traffic in the street, destroy public and private property, and jump up and down on police cars.
Here's the first problem a Trump presidency is going to experience: He doesn't want to be in the White House. He wants to rule (and he will try to rule, not lead) from his glass house in the middle of Manhattan. It's a security nightmare, if you are familiar with the location of Trump Tower. And it's also a logistical nightmare, because the main artery through NYC is 5th Avenue. ANY time a POTUS has been in Manhattan it completely fucks up the street traffic, which fucks up the subway, tunnel and bridge traffic, which fucks up the city until the POTUS goes back to D.C.
Trump lost to Hillary in Manhattan by 87%. Not a typo. New York did not want their native son in office. And now he's going to fuck up things even more for these neighbors and workers since he deigns to think the White House is not suitable digs for him and his churlish bunch of brats and soft-porn star wife. Got it?
No, losers go to online message boards and use pointy-headed avatars of guys pointing guns. Compensate much?
Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
Electoral College Electors: Electoral College Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
Voters target Electoral College members to switch their Trump ballots, elect Clinton
Great news! There is still time to save America on December 19!
Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
Electoral College Electors: Electoral College Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
Voters target Electoral College members to switch their Trump ballots, elect Clinton
Great news! There is still time to save America on December 19!
Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
Electoral College Electors: Electoral College Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
Voters target Electoral College members to switch their Trump ballots, elect Clinton
Great news! There is still time to save America on December 19!
Our nation is an established and founded Republic, not a popular vote democracy. Suck it up, the republicans didn't act like a bunch of tantrum children roaming the streets when Obama was president elect. I think it's time you left wing extremists all grew up a little.
Since Comey and Facebook "fake news" cost Hillary the election - electors have a chance to correct this horrific injustice against our electoral process on December 19.
Who Won the Popular Vote?
Holy crap. Trump winning has driven you completely insane
Sort of like a bunch of people on the decks of ships in Boston Harbor throwing bales of tea into the sea?
While it's true that the US is a republic, this constant refrain when it comes to the presidential election is silly. There are many, many elections which are based solely on popular vote. That doesn't mean we no longer have a republic. If the president were elected by popular vote, that wouldn't mean we would no longer have a republic.
The electoral college is not the only thing that makes the US a constitutional republic.
While it's true that the US is a republic, this constant refrain when it comes to the presidential election is silly. There are many, many elections which are based solely on popular vote. That doesn't mean we no longer have a republic. If the president were elected by popular vote, that wouldn't mean we would no longer have a republic.
The electoral college is not the only thing that makes the US a constitutional republic.
Maybe not, but certainly a part of it.
We can't change the system every single time a Democrat loses the presidency. We changed it after Gore. Most everybody across the land had to get rid of their punch card ballots even though they were pretty reliable. After Kerry lost, everybody with a voting machine made my Diebold had to get rid of those too because of some phony unproven allegations that the machines were rigged for Bush. Now get rid of the college?
It's getting silly already. Our baseball team lost the world series, but we didn't demand the league change the rules because our starting pitching was just worn out and didn't have enough days to rest because of our pitching injuries, we just accepted the loss and will live to fight another day.
If the next Democrat contender loses to a Republican because they were greatly outspent, will they be asking for spending limits next because our guy had too much money to blow?
It's got nothing to do with a Dem losing. I didn't want Trump or Hillary. I'm also not expecting the electoral college to be changed. I'd like it to be, though. I wish more states would take the route of splitting up the votes to some degree like Maine and Nebraska.
I agree that the idea of changing the system because Trump won is ridiculous. I think the system should be changed because the winner-take-all electoral system we have now ensures the two big parties will remain in control.
Getting rid of or changing the electoral college is only getting attention now because of unhappy Democrats, but it has been an issue for quite some time.
It's got nothing to do with a Dem losing. I didn't want Trump or Hillary. I'm also not expecting the electoral college to be changed. I'd like it to be, though. I wish more states would take the route of splitting up the votes to some degree like Maine and Nebraska.
I agree that the idea of changing the system because Trump won is ridiculous. I think the system should be changed because the winner-take-all electoral system we have now ensures the two big parties will remain in control.
Getting rid of or changing the electoral college is only getting attention now because of unhappy Democrats, but it has been an issue for quite some time.
It shouldn't be. If you look at the electoral map, what you are saying is all the people in those tiny blue sections should be able to pick the President for the mostly huge red sections.
A Congress peson represents a part of their state. A Senator represents half of his or her state. But a President represents the entire country.
We would be doomed as a country if only people in California, New York, and cities like Chicago picked our President each and every time. It would make no sense for anybody else to vote.
Who says only people in those places would determine the president? That seems to rely on the assumption that those people would all vote the same way.
From everything I have read, including this election, only 5 times has a president been elected while losing the popular vote. That's 5 out of 58 elections. More than 90% of our presidential elections have already followed the popular vote.
It could be argued that only people in the battleground states pick the president with the current system. It could also be argued that people in some states get more representation than others with the current system, as the ratio of electors to population is not uniform. As it stands now, does it "make sense" for a Republican to vote in California? A Democrat to vote in Texas? An independent to vote anywhere? The EC doesn't seem to solve the problems with popular vote so much as shift them around a bit.
Wow. The butt-hurt runs deep with this one.Trump lost to Hillary in Manhattan by 87%. Not a typo. New York did not want their native son in office. And now he's going to fuck up things even more for these neighbors and workers since he deigns to think the White House is not suitable digs for him and his churlish bunch of brats and soft-porn star wife. Got it?
