Pocahontas Now Denies Indian Heritage

Trump said Warren was not of Native American ancestry. A lie.

She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.

He compared the DNA to indigenous people in SA & CAwhich is similar to that of the US.

I find it funnier than shit that you think you know more than the experts. The really sad part is you are too stupid to know how stupid you are.,


Experts you say? First off, the experts said this is a dead issue with the liar (Lizzy Warren) is dead. So last week. Also, experts have said she ain’t an Indian. Especially experts who so far, only one alleged expert supports her claim. Jury is already out. The bitch lied. Deal with it.
Not true but you’ll repeat your lies
 
Warren may likly been hired if there was no affirmative action. We won't know. She claimed the status in order to cement herself in. Harvard isn't going to get an unqualified instructor. If they had got a real affirmative action hire that hire would have been triple sharp. She got the seat of someone equally qualified minority. Warren is a racist thief.

These affirmative action are never supposed to go to someone unqualified. Affirmative action means you get people who have been disadvantaged. She stole this from someone who deserved it.
Lying fuck. Warren never identified her ancestry in applying anywhere.
She identified at both penn and Harvard. If you are going to lie till you are blue in the face I can't help you.

Having debates on a forum like this supposes that both sides are going to tell the truth as to facts, as much as the differ in interpetation. She identified as indian at Penn and as a non tenured prof at Harvard. She dropped it once she achieved tenure. that is immutable. She can say it was not part of the hiring process. well,about that we will never know for sure.

Your lying like this makes you just a person I can safely ignore.

She called herself indian on official documents at both instatutions at times it would have served her well. The documents are there. Saying they aren't demolloises your character, it doesn't change the facts on the ground

No, she did not. The official documents we know of show she listed "white" under ethnicity and checked "No" when asked if she wanted to apply for minority consideration.

So you're directly contradicting known facts, apparently because you can't handle them.

Go ahead and try to show the class these "official documents" you claim exist.
So then how did Harvard have her listed as Native American?
She could have told colleagues of her Native American heritage and then the school listed her as one to promote diversity. That doesn’t mean she used that to get the job nor does it mean that was known to Harvard before she got the job.

And regardless, who hasn’t embellished their resume to get a job??
We shouldn’t even have to discuss this petty bullshit. Reminds me of catching hillary on that sniper fire lie. They’ll talk and talk about this in an attempt to discredit warren.
 
Trump lied? Maybe you are also from the moonbatfeather tribe to? You are way to emotional over this.


Trump said Warren was not of Native American ancestry. A lie.

She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue
 
Lying fuck. Warren never identified her ancestry in applying anywhere.
She identified at both penn and Harvard. If you are going to lie till you are blue in the face I can't help you.

Having debates on a forum like this supposes that both sides are going to tell the truth as to facts, as much as the differ in interpetation. She identified as indian at Penn and as a non tenured prof at Harvard. She dropped it once she achieved tenure. that is immutable. She can say it was not part of the hiring process. well,about that we will never know for sure.

Your lying like this makes you just a person I can safely ignore.

She called herself indian on official documents at both instatutions at times it would have served her well. The documents are there. Saying they aren't demolloises your character, it doesn't change the facts on the ground

No, she did not. The official documents we know of show she listed "white" under ethnicity and checked "No" when asked if she wanted to apply for minority consideration.

So you're directly contradicting known facts, apparently because you can't handle them.

Go ahead and try to show the class these "official documents" you claim exist.
So then how did Harvard have her listed as Native American?
She could have told colleagues of her Native American heritage and then the school listed her as one to promote diversity. That doesn’t mean she used that to get the job nor does it mean that was known to Harvard before she got the job.

And regardless, who hasn’t embellished their resume to get a job??
We shouldn’t even have to discuss this petty bullshit. Reminds me of catching hillary on that sniper fire lie. They’ll talk and talk about this in an attempt to discredit warren.
Even more hysterical when it comes from trump supporters.
 
Trump said Warren was not of Native American ancestry. A lie.

She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
 
She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
 
If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
That’s so true.

That’s the funniest part. I was just talking with my wife about Florida candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, along these same lines of rightard hypocrisy. The worst thing the right has said about Gillum is that he’s accussed of illegally accepting a theatre ticket. Meanwhile, the right elected Florida’s current governor even after his company had to pay off a $1.7 billion fine when his company got caught committing the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history.
 
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
That’s so true.

That’s the funniest part. I was just talking with my wife about Florida candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, along these same lines of rightard hypocrisy. The worst thing the right has said about Gillum is that he’s accussed of illegally accepting a theatre ticket. Meanwhile, the right elected Florida’s current governor even after his company had to pay off a $1.7 billion fine when his company got caught committing the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history.

And they will go on and on about that theater ticket until the public thinks the woman is shady.

Same with the pocahontas thing and same for Hillary saying she was under sniper fire.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

Hillary only had 7 pants on fire lies in all the time she's been in office

PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

Compared to Trump's 90. Maybe we should focus on one of Trump's 90 rather than overwhelm people with all 90 of his lies.
 
Uh we're hung up on blood, because Warren took a blood test to "prove" her claim. And the 1/1024 is the likely hood of her blood and that's for Hispanic blood, not even native American blood.....it's hilarious
Stop lying. The test showed she has Native American blood in her heritage.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn’t lie, they’d have nothing at all to post.

No it didn't...it showed she had a small amount of Mexican or Columbian heritage.......you guys really don't worry about facts do you?
Show us this.
Post 989

Warren did get tested and the results did find Native American ancestry. We asked four experts to review her report and they all found it credible.

"the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago."

In years, that would be anytime from 150 to 250 years ago, perhaps as far back as 1700.

We asked several top biological anthropologists to assess Bustamante’s methods. They all said they are sound.

"I have read the DNA test report closely, and think that the analysis described therein was conducted properly," said Theodore Schurr at the University of Pennsylvania.

"These are among the most robust methods today," said Deborah Bolnick at the University of Connecticut and past president of the American Association of Anthropological Genetics.

Bustamante found five DNA segments that he could say with 99 percent certainty were of Native American origin.

"Native Americans arose as a distinct population in Siberia some 17,000 to 23,000 years ago and then spread into the Americas around 16,000 years ago," Schurr said. "Indigenous populations share a common genomic make-up."

After six to 10 generations, that DNA would be very dilute, which was consistent with Bustamante’s finding that 95 percent of Warren’s DNA was European.

Researchers told us the test results fit with Warren’s account of her Native American ties. Warren has said that she was told her great-great-great-grandmother was Cherokee.

That doesn’t mean the woman was pure Cherokee. Counting back the generations, that woman would have been born roughly in the middle of the 1800s.

"There are not genetic markers that are specific to tribal nations," Bolnick said. "The genetic patterns don’t map on to tribal groups that we recognize today."

According to Schurr, the most that can safely be said is that Warren’s test results "may reflect a genetic contribution from a tribe living in what is now the United States."

The DNA test can’t prove every part of Warren’s family story, but the researchers we reached said it is consistent with her account.

Warren's DNA test: What it can and can't tell us
Ok, even if all that is true, there is no reason for her to claim that ancestry. It's wrong...or we can stop identity politics and caring about how much blood of anyone you have....im on board with this idea.
 
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
That’s so true.

That’s the funniest part. I was just talking with my wife about Florida candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, along these same lines of rightard hypocrisy. The worst thing the right has said about Gillum is that he’s accussed of illegally accepting a theatre ticket. Meanwhile, the right elected Florida’s current governor even after his company had to pay off a $1.7 billion fine when his company got caught committing the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history.

And they will go on and on about that theater ticket until the public thinks the woman is shady.

Same with the pocahontas thing and same for Hillary saying she was under sniper fire.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

Hillary only had 7 pants on fire lies in all the time she's been in office

PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

Compared to Trump's 90. Maybe we should focus on one of Trump's 90 rather than overwhelm people with all 90 of his lies.
The problem is those people like Hilary, they are not objective, Jill Abramson is a Hillary fanatic like Maureen Dowd. Hilary is a known liar and a horrible person....she just said all blacks look a like.....if Trump had said that, you'd say he was a klan member.
 
No it didn't...it showed she had a small amount of Mexican or Columbian heritage.......you guys really don't worry about facts do you?
Show us this.
Post 989

Warren did get tested and the results did find Native American ancestry. We asked four experts to review her report and they all found it credible.

"the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago."

In years, that would be anytime from 150 to 250 years ago, perhaps as far back as 1700.

We asked several top biological anthropologists to assess Bustamante’s methods. They all said they are sound.

"I have read the DNA test report closely, and think that the analysis described therein was conducted properly," said Theodore Schurr at the University of Pennsylvania.

"These are among the most robust methods today," said Deborah Bolnick at the University of Connecticut and past president of the American Association of Anthropological Genetics.

Bustamante found five DNA segments that he could say with 99 percent certainty were of Native American origin.

"Native Americans arose as a distinct population in Siberia some 17,000 to 23,000 years ago and then spread into the Americas around 16,000 years ago," Schurr said. "Indigenous populations share a common genomic make-up."

After six to 10 generations, that DNA would be very dilute, which was consistent with Bustamante’s finding that 95 percent of Warren’s DNA was European.

Researchers told us the test results fit with Warren’s account of her Native American ties. Warren has said that she was told her great-great-great-grandmother was Cherokee.

That doesn’t mean the woman was pure Cherokee. Counting back the generations, that woman would have been born roughly in the middle of the 1800s.

"There are not genetic markers that are specific to tribal nations," Bolnick said. "The genetic patterns don’t map on to tribal groups that we recognize today."

According to Schurr, the most that can safely be said is that Warren’s test results "may reflect a genetic contribution from a tribe living in what is now the United States."

The DNA test can’t prove every part of Warren’s family story, but the researchers we reached said it is consistent with her account.

Warren's DNA test: What it can and can't tell us

Ok, so at best she's 1/64th of something......point is she has no right to claim that heritage. She proved that.....I mean if we can claim that, then there is no need for identity politics......

She thought she had some indian in her family history so in 1980 she checked a box saying Native American.

Trump got out of Viet Nam because of bone spurs. You know he didn't have bone spurs. He should take a test.

Also a lie detector test. Fuck a DNA test.

Trump also said he was healthy, not obese, 239 and 6'3. That's a lie. Why even bother giving presidential candidates a physical if they can just lie?
Ok first saying you're under sniper fire, is a horrible lie. It wasn't an exaggeration or a mistake. That is a bold face lie.....and it is stolen valor.

he is healthy and much healthier than her.....so he's a little heavy for his height. 6'3" 239 is not crazy overweight. Again, how is he unhealthy? He's normal, like most people, a bit overweight and he eats fast food. He's not fainting and having seizures a couple of times a year.
 
There are literally millions of white and black Americans who are 1/64 of another race. So, it I have 1/64 minority can I get AA points?
Jesus fuck you are a fucking idiot. To quality in anything to be of a certain race, there are standards & guidelines.

Get a fucking education.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you just owned yourself...that's the point we've been making......her test blew up in her face, because AT BEST she's 1/64th........thank you for playing...she is NOT native American.
 
Trump lied? Maybe you are also from the moonbatfeather tribe to? You are way to emotional over this.


Trump said Warren was not of Native American ancestry. A lie.

She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.

He compared the DNA to indigenous people in SA & CAwhich is similar to that of the US.

I find it funnier than shit that you think you know more than the experts. The really sad part is you are too stupid to know how stupid you are.,
We he did, and that's not NA....Mexicans are not Cherokee....again thank you for pointing this out...
 
She is weak, she's a moron.
You treat it like 1/1024 is full blood...it's not, it's a joke, just like you lefties.

Now that 1/1024 is the same as full blood, we can now get all the benefits of a minority.....so we get affirmative action too!!!

Why are you so hung up on 'blood'? Something you need to tell the group?
And diga me Tonto, exactly what ass are y'all pulling this fraction `1/1024' from?
Uh we're hung up on blood, because Warren took a blood test to "prove" her claim. And the 1/1024 is the likely hood of her blood and that's for Hispanic blood, not even native American blood.....it's hilarious
Stop lying. The test showed she has Native American blood in her heritage.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn’t lie, they’d have nothing at all to post.
Love it! Let's keep this Pocahontas thread alive. I don't care if she's toast.
Since Warren proved her ancestry, you calling her Pocahontas makes you a bigot.
your previous points have proved your statement incorrect....she proved she's really really white.....she just needs to admit it.
 
Warren may likly been hired if there was no affirmative action. We won't know. She claimed the status in order to cement herself in. Harvard isn't going to get an unqualified instructor. If they had got a real affirmative action hire that hire would have been triple sharp. She got the seat of someone equally qualified minority. Warren is a racist thief.

These affirmative action are never supposed to go to someone unqualified. Affirmative action means you get people who have been disadvantaged. She stole this from someone who deserved it.
Lying fuck. Warren never identified her ancestry in applying anywhere.
She identified at both penn and Harvard. If you are going to lie till you are blue in the face I can't help you.

Having debates on a forum like this supposes that both sides are going to tell the truth as to facts, as much as the differ in interpetation. She identified as indian at Penn and as a non tenured prof at Harvard. She dropped it once she achieved tenure. that is immutable. She can say it was not part of the hiring process. well,about that we will never know for sure.

Your lying like this makes you just a person I can safely ignore.

She called herself indian on official documents at both instatutions at times it would have served her well. The documents are there. Saying they aren't demolloises your character, it doesn't change the facts on the ground

No, she did not. The official documents we know of show she listed "white" under ethnicity and checked "No" when asked if she wanted to apply for minority consideration.

So you're directly contradicting known facts, apparently because you can't handle them.

Go ahead and try to show the class these "official documents" you claim exist.
So then how did Harvard have her listed as Native American?
She could have told colleagues of her Native American heritage and then the school listed her as one to promote diversity. That doesn’t mean she used that to get the job nor does it mean that was known to Harvard before she got the job.

And regardless, who hasn’t embellished their resume to get a job??

could have told? Well I could be Superman.....you know full well she said it to get the job and she's a liar. give me a more likely scenario
Well it's not an embellishment....that's the point. To people like you AA is so serious and needs to be done to help the oppressed, we want to end it and you call that racist...but you're fine with a white chick taking spots from people based on ethnicity. Wow, you guys really don't check your own logic.....so affirmative action is just a game to you.....we should end it.
 
And part Cherokee at that. Not an issue


No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
That’s so true.

That’s the funniest part. I was just talking with my wife about Florida candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, along these same lines of rightard hypocrisy. The worst thing the right has said about Gillum is that he’s accussed of illegally accepting a theatre ticket. Meanwhile, the right elected Florida’s current governor even after his company had to pay off a $1.7 billion fine when his company got caught committing the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history.

And they will go on and on about that theater ticket until the public thinks the woman is shady.

Same with the pocahontas thing and same for Hillary saying she was under sniper fire.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

Hillary only had 7 pants on fire lies in all the time she's been in office

PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

Compared to Trump's 90. Maybe we should focus on one of Trump's 90 rather than overwhelm people with all 90 of his lies.
The problem is those people like Hilary, they are not objective, Jill Abramson is a Hillary fanatic like Maureen Dowd. Hilary is a known liar and a horrible person....she just said all blacks look a like.....if Trump had said that, you'd say he was a klan member.

Trump is a klan member.

Remember this comment?

Sadly, the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and hispanics-a tough subject-must be discussed.

4:05 AM - Jun 5, 2013
 
Trump lied? Maybe you are also from the moonbatfeather tribe to? You are way to emotional over this.


Trump said Warren was not of Native American ancestry. A lie.

She isn't. so someone with 1/1024 black in them can apply for affirmative action and black scholarships? Is that what you're saying?

If she has a native american ancestor, she didn't lie. She didn't say anything about applying for scholarships or affirmative action. Harvard tried to put her down as a diversity hire because she checked the box. She was already hired. And she is 1/64th. You're picking the far end of the spectrum. She may be 1/64th. Why don't you quote that number?
Ok, lets go with 1/64th, the best possible scenarios for her being Mexican. How does that giver her the right to call herself that?
and 1/64th now allows you to claim that you are a certain heritage....lefties aren't known for being honest or consistent, so lets see if we can nail this one down.
She never called herself anything other than being of Native American heritage. You freaks did. She always said her ancestor, 5 generations back, was Cherokee.
Wow you lie....

“You know, my mom and dad were born and raised out in Oklahoma, and my daddy was in his teens when he fell in love with my mother,” said the Massachusetts Democrat. “She was a beautiful girl who played the piano. And he was head over heels in love with her and wanted to marry her. And his family was bitterly opposed to that because she was part Native American.”

THIS is not someone who just mentioned some random heritage......god you guys will say anything...that's sad an scary.

Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren's story of parents' elopement
 
No, not really. Just a lying bitch politition.
Trump lies more. Do you care?
That’s so true.

That’s the funniest part. I was just talking with my wife about Florida candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, along these same lines of rightard hypocrisy. The worst thing the right has said about Gillum is that he’s accussed of illegally accepting a theatre ticket. Meanwhile, the right elected Florida’s current governor even after his company had to pay off a $1.7 billion fine when his company got caught committing the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history.

And they will go on and on about that theater ticket until the public thinks the woman is shady.

Same with the pocahontas thing and same for Hillary saying she was under sniper fire.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

Hillary only had 7 pants on fire lies in all the time she's been in office

PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

Compared to Trump's 90. Maybe we should focus on one of Trump's 90 rather than overwhelm people with all 90 of his lies.
The problem is those people like Hilary, they are not objective, Jill Abramson is a Hillary fanatic like Maureen Dowd. Hilary is a known liar and a horrible person....she just said all blacks look a like.....if Trump had said that, you'd say he was a klan member.

Trump is a klan member.

Remember this comment?

Sadly, the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and hispanics-a tough subject-must be discussed.

4:05 AM - Jun 5, 2013
He is not, but your side loves them. Sorry, you guys are really racist....you just hide it for votes...but Clinton makes statements from time to time, and then the rest of the democrats....holy shit......you really need to stop throwing stones in your glass house
 

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