POLICE STATE WATCH: Trump To Sign Prison Reform Bill That Could Free Thousands...

[Moonglow]

I attended several sessions with the new and improved method of addiction counseling and it's the best in the forty years I've been associated with it.

40 years huh? Doesn't work does it?

I am not an addict and never have been...But as far as for others treating addiction is like treating patients with cancer, not all respond the same way to the treatment, so a more another treatment must be tried.
But humans are valuable unlike what you summarize.

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

 

[Dschrute3]

Many just need help. They don't belong in cages. Our Justice System has become so archaic and barbaric.

The states have already learned that addiction counseling is cheaper and more effective than incarceration...Thus the creation of drug courts...

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Boy, can't tell if you're being serious or not. Citizens are sent to prison for being drug addicts every day in this country. You should probably read up some on current drug laws.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I attended several sessions with the new and improved method of addiction counseling and it's the best in the forty years I've been associated with it.

40 years huh? Doesn't work does it?

I am not an addict and never have been...But as far as for others treating addiction is like treating patients with cancer, not all respond the same way to the treatment, so a more another treatment must be tried.
But humans are valuable unlike what you summarize.

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

yeah it is one thing for drug PUSHERS to be there but for people that have drug problems,thats wrong.

 

[Dschrute3]

The states have already learned that addiction counseling is cheaper and more effective than incarceration...Thus the creation of drug courts...

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Is that the only situation you know of?

Many always cite extremes when they don't have much of an argument.

 

[Dschrute3]

Many just need help. They don't belong in cages. Our Justice System has become so archaic and barbaric.

The states have already learned that addiction counseling is cheaper and more effective than incarceration...Thus the creation of drug courts...

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Most receive long sentences for minor repeat offenses. Judges don't like repeat-offenders. But these folks have problems. They need help. They don't need to be thrown in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. There are other more logical humane options.

That is exactly where they belong.

No, they don't belong in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. They're non-violent folks who just need some help.

 

[evenflow1969]

he needs them to staff his reelection campaign

Aw come on, this is a good thing. You don't have to be a butthurt wanka all the time. There's no rule stating you have to be.

i'm neither

stop projecting

Do you support Trump's effort on this?

I support Trump on this effort! You are an idiot iof you beleive that any thing is good or bad just because of Trump. I am pretty fond of my father but I do not always agree with him or any one else!

 

[Dschrute3]

I attended several sessions with the new and improved method of addiction counseling and it's the best in the forty years I've been associated with it.

40 years huh? Doesn't work does it?

I am not an addict and never have been...But as far as for others treating addiction is like treating patients with cancer, not all respond the same way to the treatment, so a more another treatment must be tried.
But humans are valuable unlike what you summarize.

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

yeah it is one thing for drug PUSHERS to be there but for people that have drug problems,thats wrong.

Decriminalize most Drugs. Prohibition doesn't work. Caging non-violent drug users is what's led to our prisons becoming over-crowded torture chambers. They don't belong in those cages.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

40 years huh? Doesn't work does it?

I am not an addict and never have been...But as far as for others treating addiction is like treating patients with cancer, not all respond the same way to the treatment, so a more another treatment must be tried.
But humans are valuable unlike what you summarize.

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

yeah it is one thing for drug PUSHERS to be there but for people that have drug problems,thats wrong.

Decriminalize most Drugs. Prohibition doesn't work. Caging non-violent drug users is what's led to our prisons becoming over-crowded torture chambers. They don't belong in those cages.

Prohibition of school shootings doesn't work. Give every student a sawed off shot gun.

Drug offenders are in prison voluntarily. They can stop using.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The states have already learned that addiction counseling is cheaper and more effective than incarceration...Thus the creation of drug courts...

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Most receive long sentences for minor repeat offenses. Judges don't like repeat-offenders. But these folks have problems. They need help. They don't need to be thrown in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. There are other more logical humane options.

That is exactly where they belong.

No, they don't belong in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. They're non-violent folks who just need some help.

Help is what made them addicts. They might be in prison for a non violent offense, but they are not non violent people. We don't know how many violent crimes they committed and not been caught.

 

[Dschrute3]

I am not an addict and never have been...But as far as for others treating addiction is like treating patients with cancer, not all respond the same way to the treatment, so a more another treatment must be tried.
But humans are valuable unlike what you summarize.

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

yeah it is one thing for drug PUSHERS to be there but for people that have drug problems,thats wrong.

Decriminalize most Drugs. Prohibition doesn't work. Caging non-violent drug users is what's led to our prisons becoming over-crowded torture chambers. They don't belong in those cages.

Prohibition of school shootings doesn't work. Give every student a sawed off shot gun.

Drug offenders are in prison voluntarily. They can stop using.

Well, now you're really reaching. It is time to consider ending Prohibition. If adult Citizens wanna get high or drunk, so be it. It shouldn't be considered a 'Criminal Act.' It's not a Government issue.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The states have already learned that addiction counseling is cheaper and more effective than incarceration...Thus the creation of drug courts...

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Boy, can't tell if you're being serious or not. Citizens are sent to prison for being drug addicts every day in this country. You should probably read up some on current drug laws.

No they aren't. I defended plenty of them. They have committed crimes in addition to being addicts. Not that addiction isn't enough. They will sell their children for a single fix and many times that's just what they are in prison for.

 

[Dschrute3]

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Most receive long sentences for minor repeat offenses. Judges don't like repeat-offenders. But these folks have problems. They need help. They don't need to be thrown in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. There are other more logical humane options.

That is exactly where they belong.

No, they don't belong in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. They're non-violent folks who just need some help.

Help is what made them addicts. They might be in prison for a non violent offense, but they are not non violent people. We don't know how many violent crimes they committed and not been caught.

Well, most haven't been charged with violent crimes. Like i said, non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. Our Justice System needs to evolve. It's time.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You remind us every day that you are a drug addict and quite proud of it too.

Why are you so hostile and express such hatred for folks who have problems? Are you a Christian? Just curious.

yeah it is one thing for drug PUSHERS to be there but for people that have drug problems,thats wrong.

Decriminalize most Drugs. Prohibition doesn't work. Caging non-violent drug users is what's led to our prisons becoming over-crowded torture chambers. They don't belong in those cages.

Prohibition of school shootings doesn't work. Give every student a sawed off shot gun.

Drug offenders are in prison voluntarily. They can stop using.

Well, now you're really reaching. It is time to consider ending Prohibition. If adult Citizens wanna get high or drunk, so be it. It shouldn't be considered a 'Criminal Act.' It's not a Government issue.

Then let them experience the consequences of their actions. I see them all time time. They are laying in the street, in door ways. Just like in San Francisco's BART station. Let them lay there and die. Stop feeding them. Stop giving them medical care. Stop just stop with emergency narcan.

 

[Moonglow]

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Boy, can't tell if you're being serious or not. Citizens are sent to prison for being drug addicts every day in this country. You should probably read up some on current drug laws.

No they aren't. I defended plenty of them. They have committed crimes in addition to being addicts. Not that addiction isn't enough. They will sell their children for a single fix and many times that's just what they are in prison for.

People change with age also, you probably was nice at one time in your life, before the weight of the world crushed your spirit.

 

[MisterBeale]

Good on Trump. It's time to dismantle this Police State we've become. If they're non-violent offenders, their sentences shouldn't be so long-term. The next step for Trump should be releasing all non-violent folks who've been incarcerated on drug charges. Our Prisons are horrifically over-crowded with non-violent drug offenders.

The US now ranks #1 in the world in imprisoning its Citizens. Who would have thought that could ever happen here? I applaud Trump on this move. But it's only a good start. Much more needs to be done. We need to reverse this Police State trend.



The bill, which could immediately release 4,000 federal prisoners, is likely to be brought up for a vote early next week.

“My administration strongly supports these efforts and I urge the House and Senate to get together … work out their differences [and] get a bill to my desk. I will sign it,” Trump said at an event the White House described as a prison reform summit.

Trump called prison reform an issue “that unites people from across the spectrum”, as he thanked progressive commentator Van Jones and his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner for their involvement in pushing for the bill.

The bill would also expand compassionate release, giving elderly and terminally ill inmates a path home, and invest tens of millions in re-entry programs. It would also end the shackling of women giving birth behind bars and provide them with necessary hygiene items at no charge...

Read More:
Trump promises to sign prison reform bill that could free thousands
DRUDGE REPORT 2018®

Police departments across the nation became militarized after 9/11.

They became extensions of the DHS after the passage of the Patriot Act and the newly revised NDA act. Once that was done, surplus military equipment from our never ending undeclared war on the rest of the world was to be sold to local police departments, and different types of civilians were to be classified as potential terrorists.

Once someone is then classified as a terrorist, they no longer are subject to the protections of the Constitution, and are thus subject to the draconian measures of the Police state. Thus, the photos of what the modern police force and the new brutal mentality of the STATIST.

Hollywood has helped propagandize and normalized this attitude in much of the public, we can see this in Tipsycatlovers attitude. This is the attitude of someone who watches A LOT of movies and TV on Netflix and Amazon etc. People no longer have Constitutional rights if they are at all seen as a potential threat to the state.

Naturally, that is bullocks, regualar folks aren't, this only happens in the movies and on TV, but it gives the state a pretext for violating the 4th amendment, (we're all aware of the truth of what Snowden told us, everyone is a target,) which then gives them a pretext for violating all the rest.

Hence, the reason you hear of the state being paranoid and shooting people and locking them up for the least little cause.

If you even have contraband, they will use it as an excuse, especially if you are hostile to the State and it's apparatchiks.

Don't look for it to get any better unless the Patriot Act and the NDAA are repealed.




The thing we have to come to terms with, is that when Bush said, "The terrorists hate us for our freedoms?"

Well, they won, we no longer live in that free society we once used to, we did it to ourselves. Especially whenever you look at a police car and you don't think they are here to protect you, but they are here to give you a ticket for god knows what, or to lock you up.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Most receive long sentences for minor repeat offenses. Judges don't like repeat-offenders. But these folks have problems. They need help. They don't need to be thrown in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. There are other more logical humane options.

That is exactly where they belong.

No, they don't belong in cages with brutal murderers and rapists. They're non-violent folks who just need some help.

Help is what made them addicts. They might be in prison for a non violent offense, but they are not non violent people. We don't know how many violent crimes they committed and not been caught.

Well, most haven't been charged with violent crimes. Like i said, non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. Our Justice System needs to evolve. It's time.

You don't know. You have no idea who is violent but in prison for a non violent offense.

 

[Dschrute3]

There's a reason we now rank #1 in the world in imprisoning Citizens. We've been on a rapid march towards Police State madness for years. We're throwing folks in cages who don't belong in them. Our Prisons have become over-crowded torture chambers.

Non-violent folks should be treated differently than dangerous violent folks. And no one should be thrown in a cage for merely having a drug or alcohol problem. We need to seek logical humane alternatives.

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Boy, can't tell if you're being serious or not. Citizens are sent to prison for being drug addicts every day in this country. You should probably read up some on current drug laws.

No they aren't. I defended plenty of them. They have committed crimes in addition to being addicts. Not that addiction isn't enough. They will sell their children for a single fix and many times that's just what they are in prison for.

If they commit a crime, they'll be prosecuted. But it's how we deal with them after they're prosecuted.

 

[Pilot1]

I really dislike the militarization of police. I have no problem with a well armed, and trained law enforcement, but now they sometimes seem like armed, paid tax collectors. Our judicial system has become a money making scheme.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Good on Trump. It's time to dismantle this Police State we've become. If they're non-violent offenders, their sentences shouldn't be so long-term. The next step for Trump should be releasing all non-violent folks who've been incarcerated on drug charges. Our Prisons are horrifically over-crowded with non-violent drug offenders.

The US now ranks #1 in the world in imprisoning its Citizens. Who would have thought that could ever happen here? I applaud Trump on this move. But it's only a good start. Much more needs to be done. We need to reverse this Police State trend.



The bill, which could immediately release 4,000 federal prisoners, is likely to be brought up for a vote early next week.

“My administration strongly supports these efforts and I urge the House and Senate to get together … work out their differences [and] get a bill to my desk. I will sign it,” Trump said at an event the White House described as a prison reform summit.

Trump called prison reform an issue “that unites people from across the spectrum”, as he thanked progressive commentator Van Jones and his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner for their involvement in pushing for the bill.

The bill would also expand compassionate release, giving elderly and terminally ill inmates a path home, and invest tens of millions in re-entry programs. It would also end the shackling of women giving birth behind bars and provide them with necessary hygiene items at no charge...

Read More:
Trump promises to sign prison reform bill that could free thousands
DRUDGE REPORT 2018®

Police departments across the nation became militarized after 9/11.

They became extensions of the DHS after the passage of the Patriot Act and the newly revised NDA act. Once that was done, surplus military equipment from our never ending undeclared war on the rest of the world was to be sold to local police departments, and different types of civilians were to be classified as potential terrorists.

Once someone is then classified as a terrorist, they no longer are subject to the protections of the Constitution, and are thus subject to the draconian measures of the Police state. Thus, the photos of what the modern police force and the new brutal mentality of the STATIST.

Hollywood has helped propagandize and normalized this attitude in much of the public, we can see this in Tipsycatlovers attitude. This is the attitude of someone who watches A LOT of movies and TV on Netflix and Amazon etc. People no longer have Constitutional rights if they are at all seen as a potential threat to the state.

Naturally, that is bullocks, regualar folks aren't, this only happens in the movies and on TV, but it gives the state a pretext for violating the 4th amendment, (we're all aware of the truth of what Snowden told us, everyone is a target,) which then gives them a pretext for violating all the rest.

Hence, the reason you hear of the state being paranoid and shooting people and locking them up for the least little cause.

If you even have contraband, they will use it as an excuse, especially if you are hostile to the State and it's apparatchiks.

Don't look for it to get any better unless the Patriot Act and the NDAA are repealed.




The thing we have to come to terms with, is that when Bush said, "The terrorists hate us for our freedoms?"

Well, they won, we no longer live in that free society we once used to, we did it to ourselves. Especially whenever you look at a police car and you don't think they are here to protect you, but they are here to give you a ticket for god knows what, or to lock you up.

These were my clients. For 35 years I protected their "rights" before I finally figured out they should be locked up for life, and a short life it should be. I got how many back on the streets? I don't know, hundreds, thousands. I need to pay for that karma.

We need a star chamber, an extrajudicial force that will smother these criminals in their beds.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No one is sent to prison for being an addict or an alcoholic. They must have committed a crime in addition to being an addict or alcoholic.

Yes, they are sent to prison for being alcoholics and drug users.

No they are not. They should be, but they are not. What does happen is that a drunk who kills a family of five on the freeway will loudly claim that they are in prison because they had one drink too many.

Boy, can't tell if you're being serious or not. Citizens are sent to prison for being drug addicts every day in this country. You should probably read up some on current drug laws.

No they aren't. I defended plenty of them. They have committed crimes in addition to being addicts. Not that addiction isn't enough. They will sell their children for a single fix and many times that's just what they are in prison for.

If they commit a crime, they'll be prosecuted. But it's how we deal with them after they're prosecuted.

They go to prison where they belong. Having proved that they are not able to live among the civilized, they are sent to live among their own kind.