Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?

[bripat9643]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

Question, how can you assert that "most" of the left want the Constitution radically changed, while not knowing what changes (if any) "most" of the left want to make to it? You're presuming an answer to your own question, which is a common tactic that people use when they're intentionally trying to be deceptive as well as provocative.

Why not just ask left wingers, do you want to see changes to the Constitution and if so , what changes and how do you think they would benefit the citizenry? Personally I don't think that most left wingers I've run across want to see changes to the Constitution, they seem more interested in activist INTERPRETATIONS (i.e. judicial activism) of the existing Constitution.

Just a thought.

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed. The opening post simply asks what changes you want to see. How would YOU like to see it changed? Eliminate the 2nd amendment? A right to white conservative wealth? A right to free Healthcare? How would you change it?

We WROTE a the Constitution
We love it

It s Conservatives conspiring to destroy our Democracy

LOL, there you go again, unfortunately the only thing your "we" has in common with the fellas that actually wrote the Constitution is that both of you had Human DNA and breathed air, beyond that, nothing, nadda, zip, zero, zilch.

Sorry to be the bearer of cold, hard reality but somebody had to do before you ended up hurting yourself with that complete warping of reality maneuver you've been attempting throughout this thread.

Rightwinger lives in a world of delusion. He claims to believe in freedom!

 

[bripat9643]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

That's what your ilk does, asshole. Who grants special privileges to Facebook, Google and twitter?

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I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

It's not surprising that you would need to turn to some politician to define your own belief system for you, given that you clearly don't understand them yourself, not your fault though as clearly you're just one of the many victims of the ceaseless counter-factual propaganda that has inculcated the masses for decades.

Let me help you out; the History of Liberalism goes back thousands of years to Athens right up through modern day libertarianism, the core belief that power over oneself should be invested in the individual as opposed to central authority has always been a hallmark of liberalism, as opposed to that of your ilk that invariably attempts to invest ever more power in CENTRAL authority (in this case the Federal Government), which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of historical liberal ideals.

I believe that the goals of liberalism are noble and altruistic and thus place extremely high value on that moniker, those that follow your ideology have done nothing but cheapen and dirty the moniker, just as the alt-right populists, neo-cons and religious conservatives have hijacked, dirtied up and cheapened the conservative moniker.

It's amazing how the partisan propaganda machine has bamboozled so many to the point that they don't even understand their own belief systems, I feel sorry for you.

I do understand that your GOALS are noble, however your methods have much more in common with the authoritarians on the modern right than they do with those professed by actual LIBERALS who can trace the roots of their ideology all the way back the beginning of the empowerment of the individual and the disempowerment of dictators.

I will go with JFKs definition of liberalism

Talk me out of it

Democrats would call JFK a reationary today.

I agree with everything JFK said

Why don’t you?

JFK implemented tax cuts. Do you agree with that?

 

[meaner gene]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

I would amend article 3 to create a court of legal opinion. Which would give legislatures a forum where they could get guidance on whether a bill is constitutional on a line item basis.

 

[EvMetro]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

Question, how can you assert that "most" of the left want the Constitution radically changed, while not knowing what changes (if any) "most" of the left want to make to it? You're presuming an answer to your own question, which is a common tactic that people use when they're intentionally trying to be deceptive as well as provocative.

Why not just ask left wingers, do you want to see changes to the Constitution and if so , what changes and how do you think they would benefit the citizenry? Personally I don't think that most left wingers I've run across want to see changes to the Constitution, they seem more interested in activist INTERPRETATIONS (i.e. judicial activism) of the existing Constitution.

Just a thought.

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed. The opening post simply asks what changes you want to see. How would YOU like to see it changed? Eliminate the 2nd amendment? A right to white conservative wealth? A right to free Healthcare? How would you change it?

We WROTE the Constitution
We love it

It s Conservatives conspiring to destroy our Democracy

Modern day commies absolutely DID NOT write it. You didn't build that. Don't even think about it.

 

[meaner gene]

JFK implemented tax cuts. Do you agree with that?

JFK also increased taxes to pay for his "fly me to the moon"

 

[rightwinger]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

Question, how can you assert that "most" of the left want the Constitution radically changed, while not knowing what changes (if any) "most" of the left want to make to it? You're presuming an answer to your own question, which is a common tactic that people use when they're intentionally trying to be deceptive as well as provocative.

Why not just ask left wingers, do you want to see changes to the Constitution and if so , what changes and how do you think they would benefit the citizenry? Personally I don't think that most left wingers I've run across want to see changes to the Constitution, they seem more interested in activist INTERPRETATIONS (i.e. judicial activism) of the existing Constitution.

Just a thought.

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed. The opening post simply asks what changes you want to see. How would YOU like to see it changed? Eliminate the 2nd amendment? A right to white conservative wealth? A right to free Healthcare? How would you change it?

We WROTE a the Constitution
We love it

It s Conservatives conspiring to destroy our Democracy

LOL, there you go again, unfortunately the only thing your "we" has in common with the fellas that actually wrote the Constitution is that both of you had Human DNA and breathed air, beyond that, nothing, nadda, zip, zero, zilch.

Sorry to be the bearer of cold, hard reality but somebody had to do before you ended up hurting yourself with that complete warping of reality maneuver you've been attempting throughout this thread.

WE
LIBERALS wrote the Constitution

It had LIBERAL themes such as one man, one vote. The vote of the common man counted the same as the vote of the aristocrat.
A society of the people, by the people and for the people

Most LIBERAL society of its day

 

[Crepitus]

Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?​

The fact that none of you conservative types have read it.

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

That's what your ilk does, asshole. Who grants special privileges to Facebook, Google and twitter?

?

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

It's not surprising that you would need to turn to some politician to define your own belief system for you, given that you clearly don't understand them yourself, not your fault though as clearly you're just one of the many victims of the ceaseless counter-factual propaganda that has inculcated the masses for decades.

Let me help you out; the History of Liberalism goes back thousands of years to Athens right up through modern day libertarianism, the core belief that power over oneself should be invested in the individual as opposed to central authority has always been a hallmark of liberalism, as opposed to that of your ilk that invariably attempts to invest ever more power in CENTRAL authority (in this case the Federal Government), which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of historical liberal ideals.

I believe that the goals of liberalism are noble and altruistic and thus place extremely high value on that moniker, those that follow your ideology have done nothing but cheapen and dirty the moniker, just as the alt-right populists, neo-cons and religious conservatives have hijacked, dirtied up and cheapened the conservative moniker.

It's amazing how the partisan propaganda machine has bamboozled so many to the point that they don't even understand their own belief systems, I feel sorry for you.

I do understand that your GOALS are noble, however your methods have much more in common with the authoritarians on the modern right than they do with those professed by actual LIBERALS who can trace the roots of their ideology all the way back the beginning of the empowerment of the individual and the disempowerment of dictators.

I will go with JFKs definition of liberalism

Talk me out of it

Democrats would call JFK a reationary today.

I agree with everything JFK said

Why don’t you?

JFK implemented tax cuts. Do you agree with that?

Let’s see
JFK set the highest tax rate on the wealthy at 70 percent

Ummmm, YES, I would agree with that

 

[rightwinger]

Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?​

The fact that none of you conservative types have read it.

That is NOT TRUE
They have read the Second Amendment.

Well, half of it maybe

 

[BS Filter]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

If you don't think Democrats are bought and paid for by corporations, you're an idiot.

 

[meaner gene]

We WROTE the Constitution
We love it

It s Conservatives conspiring to destroy our Democracy

Modern day commies absolutely DID NOT write it. You didn't build that. Don't even think about it.

Republicans are doing the work of Vladimir Putin. Tearing down the norms that are the bedrock of a democracy. The first step toward a government of the government, and not a government of the people.

Why do you think Arizona and other states are writing laws that would allow their legislature to override election results, and thus overturn the will of the people.

 

[EvMetro]

WE
LIBERALS wrote the Constitution

Wrong. THEY wrote it, and commies like you want to claim credit for it. Have you no shame?

 

[Crepitus]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

What a retarded thing to say.

 

[EvMetro]

Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?​

The fact that none of you conservative types have read it.

That does not answer the question that you quoted. Do you have an on topic reply that answers what you quoted?

 

[bripat9643]

WE
LIBERALS wrote the Constitution

Wrong. THEY wrote it, and commies like you want to claim credit for it. Have you no shame?

Short answer: no.

That's what I marvel about with respect to leftwingers. They are constantly boasting about things that even the dumbest of the dumb know not to be true.

 

[meaner gene]

The fact that none of you conservative types have read it.

That is NOT TRUE
They have read the Second Amendment.

Well, half of it maybe

They use selective reading. They only read the parts they agree with, and ignore the parts they don't.

 

[rightwinger]

WE
LIBERALS wrote the Constitution

Wrong. THEY wrote it, and commies like you want to claim credit for it. Have you no shame?

LIBERALS my friend
What have American LIBERALS given us?

The Constitution
Abolition of slavery
Worker rights
Womens rights
Civil Rights
Environmental Protections
ADA
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought against every one of them

 

[bripat9643]

We WROTE the Constitution
We love it

It s Conservatives conspiring to destroy our Democracy

Modern day commies absolutely DID NOT write it. You didn't build that. Don't even think about it.

Republicans are doing the work of Vladimir Putin. Tearing down the norms that are the bedrock of a democracy. The first step toward a government of the government, and not a government of the people.

Why do you think Arizona and other states are writing laws that would allow their legislature to override election results, and thus overturn the will of the people.

What laws are those, douchebag?

 

[bripat9643]

The fact that none of you conservative types have read it.

That is NOT TRUE
They have read the Second Amendment.

Well, half of it maybe

They use selective reading. They only read the parts they agree with, and ignore the parts they don't.

How about the 2nd Amendment? Do you agree with that?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What do you not like about the Constitution?

That conservatives have nothing but contempt for it.