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Yes, but like most progressives, you want a permanent underclass to exploit. .daveman does not control who participated on the Board: never has, never will.
I, who am not considered a 'conservative' by many of the far right, voted in "favor."
The Rabbi, who is in fact far beyond conservative and is in fact a rabid reactionary, wrote "I'd be in favor of dismantling every federal program that deals with providing whatever to people. That role properly belongs to: the family, the community, the municipality, and the state, in that order." Simply not true.
Conservatives would be far better off by paring off the reactionaries. This is why they have such a bad name in American politics.
If all you're going to do is lie, just go away, boy.Yes, but like most progressives, you want a permanent underclass to exploit. .daveman does not control who participated on the Board: never has, never will.
I, who am not considered a 'conservative' by many of the far right, voted in "favor."
The Rabbi, who is in fact far beyond conservative and is in fact a rabid reactionary, wrote "I'd be in favor of dismantling every federal program that deals with providing whatever to people. That role properly belongs to: the family, the community, the municipality, and the state, in that order." Simply not true.
Conservatives would be far better off by paring off the reactionaries. This is why they have such a bad name in American politics.
Not at all. In fact, a reactionary such as you many others here wish to keep such classes without any form of support or opportunity to better themselve so you can exploit them economically: you know, child and adult labor and all that at less than the necessary wage to live. That way you get the whole family.
If I had my dream plan, it would be someothing like this..
Those who are deemed "needy" enough to be on a Federal Program and physically and mentally able to be working, they would be required to:
1 - Move into a Federal Living Facility such as former Military base that has been closed down.
2 - Their meals would be served at a centralized spot, caferteria style. Think School Lunches or Military Chow Hall.
3 - They would be required to adhere to a dress code, including hair cuts.. Again think Military style. ( Not Marines.. No need for the High and tight look )
4 - They would be reguired to attend Vocational Education training as wll as High School Level classes in English, basic math, and reading. Failure to progress results in expulsion from the program.
5 - Two years would be the max, depending upon the Vactional training they were taking.
6 - They would not be eligable to vote during this time frame.
7 - Any pregnancies would result in the immediate expulsion from the program for both mother and father.
8 - Any one expelled from the program would not be eligable for re-consideration for 5 years, nor would be they be eligable for any Federal Assistance of any kind for 5 years.
You blew your chance to get a "free" education when you were young. If you want more access to the Tax Payer's dollars for assistance and training, it's you are going to have to show that you want it and are willing to work for it.
If all you're going to do is lie, just go away, boy.
If I agreed with you that Obama was the Bestest President EVAR!!, you'd think I was smart.If all you're going to do is lie, just go away, boy.
Kid, your lack of smarts is showing again. Reactionaries like you are simply mentally and emotionally damaged wares.
USMB conservatives only, please. The poll will show who's voted, so any progs trying to game it will be exposed.
Question:
Do you support the social safety net? Programs that allow people to get back on their feet and off public assistance. A hand up, not a hand out.
This is in contrast to the professional, Nth-generation welfare recipients.
What do you mean by "the social safety net"? That might be key here.
I'd be in favor of dismantling every federal program that deals with providing whatever to people. That role properly belongs to: the family, the community, the municipality, and the state, in that order.
Obviously people experience various hardships from time to time and need a hand temporarily. No one is saying they shouldn't have it. Nor is anyone saying people who genuinely are disabled and cannot work should not get any help. But too many people become "disabled" meaning they can't move furniture or roof houses, while they could be doing something else. And if min wage laws didnt apply they could probably find something.
Can you flesh out a scenario of how this works?
This sounds so reasonable: "That role properly belongs to: the family, the community, the municipality, and the state, in that order" doesn't it? But fails in practicality. So I must be missing something, but let me try:
John Doe incurs a hardship. So Plan A, he goes to his family. Ooops, they can't help him, they are living paycheck to paycheck, as are many Americans five years into the recession.
So John Doe now goes to "the community". Can you tell me what that looks like and where it is? Is that a food bank or a homeless shelter? Or the Community theater?
John Doe next goes to his "municipality". Again, what is that? In my town the municipal building houses the police department and the local township tax office.
You see, you people are just full of rhetorical shit. That's the conservative way. Pretty words with no fucking substance.
Carry on.
daveman does not control who participated on the Board: never has, never will.
I, who am not considered a 'conservative' by many of the far right, voted in "favor."
...his reply in red.The vast majority of conservatives have no opposition to a societal safety net, despite what progressives tell each other.
(Really? Prove it.)
USMB conservatives only, please. The poll will show who's voted, so any progs trying to game it will be exposed.
Question:
Do you support the social safety net? Programs that allow people to get back on their feet and off public assistance. A hand up, not a hand out.
This is in contrast to the professional, Nth-generation welfare recipients.
"Social Safety Net" = Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, tax deductions, tax credits, corporate and farm subsidies, GSEs, bailouts, public transportation, price supports, public works, ObamaCare...ad infinitum.
Let he who is without a government tit in his mouth cast the first stone.
"Social Safety Net" = Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, tax deductions, tax credits, corporate and farm subsidies, GSEs, bailouts, public transportation, price supports, public works, ObamaCare...ad infinitum.
Let he who is without a government tit in his mouth cast the first stone.
Start your own poll if you want prog horseshit included.
"Social Safety Net" = Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, tax deductions, tax credits, corporate and farm subsidies, GSEs, bailouts, public transportation, price supports, public works, ObamaCare...ad infinitum.
Let he who is without a government tit in his mouth cast the first stone.
Start your own poll if you want prog horseshit included.
USMB conservatives only, please. The poll will show who's voted, so any progs trying to game it will be exposed.
Question:
Do you support the social safety net? Programs that allow people to get back on their feet and off public assistance. A hand up, not a hand out.
This is in contrast to the professional, Nth-generation welfare recipients.
