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Poll: nearly half of republicans think Trump should have the authority to close down news outlets

I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”



1. Its from the USAToday, a known Trump/GOP/Conservative-hating Fake News Hack.

2. Conservatives actually believe in the Constitution and Constitutional Rights...unlike the Liberal Progressive Socialist Democrats on the Left we see constantly trampling them.

3. Shutting them down would deprive people of seeing their ratings spiraling down and their people bitch and moan about it - that's prime entertainment.

:p
 
Ideologues on both ends can become authoritarians when given an excuse.

One of their many shared characteristics.

This isn't about both sides. Both sides are but supporting giving the president power to shut down the media. Both sides are not about giving the president the power to use law enforcement to investigate his opposition whether it's real or made it up. It's time to stop talking about both sides when you see that one side is doing the things discussed in this thread.
I see both sides doing authoritarian things.

Should I lie and pretend I only see one side doing it?
No you don't. You are lying to yourself when you say that.
Or you are, pretending that the Left doesn't do it (such as shutting down speech on campus, leveraging PC to intimidate and punish, and "cancel culture").

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, any more than I'm trying to convince Trumpsters of anything.
 
This "fake news" crap has never been supported by any evidence that the major news organizations they attack have deliberately published something that they knew to be false.

If so, they are completely incompetent morons. They lie by omission. As Deborah Birx pointed out the other day, the MSM prints headlines that create the narrative they want to promote and bury any facts that may be opposed to that narrative deep in the article, if at all. They know full well that many, particularly the short attention span, headline driven millennial's, won't ever see because they don't bother to read the details.
 
Yet republicans will scream bloody murder if they think their First Amendment rights to freedom of speech or freedom of religion are being abridged (except when they want to impose their religious beliefs on others), and of course, their Second Amendment right to own an arsenal. But they don't think much of the Fourteenth Amendment and they certainly don't want to support a right to privacy.

This "fake news" crap has never been supported by any evidence that the major news organizations they attack have deliberately published something that they knew to be false. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

I wonder whether it will ever dawn on the asshole who now masquerades as POTUS that what he says at the podium today is broadcast live in real time, so the reporters don't have to take notes the old-fashioned way and go write it up. Anything he says into the mic today will be there tomorrow for all to see, even if he has misgivings tomorrow and tries to walk it back.
Most of the people who drug and alcohol themselves to near death find religion to help themselves when they clean up. Once we found out we can vote politicians in who promote anything goes as freedom and all phuk ups to be paid by massive taxation, people like you showed up with swagger. If the economy tanks you will hide like mice. The howls of what people did to their bodies will appear as medical care will be severely reduced. The Obama pain pill will be the wait out of this world to another.
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”

The Democrats who run Facebook and youTube are closing down news outlets, dumbass.
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


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Although we are finding that news media are willing to sweep real news under the rug and social media is closing accounts they deem incompatible with their ideology. Whereas individual speech is being silenced and all the news is not being aired.


YouTube owns the platform. They have no obligation to disseminate people’s speech for them.


Does the same go for Facebook, and Google?
Yes, in fact it does.


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Then the laws should be changed to include them, just as the Left forces bakers and barbers to cater to those they prefer not to do business with.....
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


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Although we are finding that news media are willing to sweep real news under the rug and social media is closing accounts they deem incompatible with their ideology. Whereas individual speech is being silenced and all the news is not being aired.


YouTube owns the platform. They have no obligation to disseminate people’s speech for them.


Does the same go for Facebook, and Google?
Yes, in fact it does.


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Then the laws should be changed to include them, just as the Left forces bakers and barbers to cater to those they prefer not to do business with.....

Bakers and barbers can deny service to idiotic conspiracy theorists. No law prevents that.
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”

How the fuck can any American in his or her right mind actually believe he should have the power to just do away with the first amendment and shut down media outlets?

These idiots just get crazier by the minute.
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


~~~~~~
Although we are finding that news media are willing to sweep real news under the rug and social media is closing accounts they deem incompatible with their ideology. Whereas individual speech is being silenced and all the news is not being aired.


YouTube owns the platform. They have no obligation to disseminate people’s speech for them.


Does the same go for Facebook, and Google?
Yes, in fact it does.


~~~~~~
Then the laws should be changed to include them, just as the Left forces bakers and barbers to cater to those they prefer not to do business with.....

Bakers and barbers can deny service to idiotic conspiracy theorists. No law prevents that.
But you still manage to get a haircut anyway, right?
 
Yet when colleges disinvites speakers usually conservatives because of threats of violence from protesters no concern for freedom of speech then. When people usually conservatives have their social media account locked because they express an opinion unpopular with the left no concerns about freedom of speech. Two doctors had a video on YouTube taken down because their take on the coronavirus and the lockdowns did not follow along with what everyone else is saying no concerns about freedom of speech. Today I saw an article about climate change people wanting a documentary by Michael Moore who I can’t stand pulled because it challenged a lot of the claims made by the green energy people. These are things that have actually happened for all his issues with the media President Trump has never tried to shut anyone down.
 
No true Republican would be in favor of closing down a legal business.

But, let's not pretend that any 'news outlet' is anything more than light entertainment.

Cynic ^^^

It's not cynical, it's historical.

News is either state run or a business, one is news you must believe (or else).

The other is news you should never believe.
 
Yet when colleges disinvites speakers usually conservatives because of threats of violence from protesters no concern for freedom of speech then. When people usually conservatives have their social media account locked because they express an opinion unpopular with the left no concerns about freedom of speech. Two doctors had a video on YouTube taken down because their take on the coronavirus and the lockdowns did not follow along with what everyone else is saying no concerns about freedom of speech. Today I saw an article about climate change people wanting a documentary by Michael Moore who I can’t stand pulled because it challenged a lot of the claims made by the green energy people. These are things that have actually happened for all his issues with the media President Trump has never tried to shut anyone down.

Did Congress pass a law allowing such "disinvites"? No, of course not. In the Berkeley matter Berkeley PD and the Campus Police understood the speaker was an agitator, not a lecturer, and would have created a mess on the streets of Berkeley.

Your last phrase in your final sentence, "...President Trump has never tried to shut anyone down" is completely false.
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


Long before they ever shut down news outlets, they'll forbid you from participating on any social media.

You post more lies and bullshit than anyone else on earth.....period.
 
Hey look! Billy found another stupid poll and thinks it means something.

Why don't we take a poll on throwing BillyBullshit off the island ?

He's:

1. The board liar
2. The board asshole
3. The board poster child for left wing arrogance and ignorance
4. He needs to get a job
 
I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


Left center with a slight liberal bias? Wow - Ya sure got 'em now!
Guess that beats the extreme right, tinfoil hat sites we see linked around here so frequently. ;)
I am just giving perspective. Care to list one USA today article that leans remotely right? Go back as far as 24 mos.
Lol the poll done by Ispos speaks for itself so this is all irrelevant.
 
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I guess the first amendment should have limitations. They didn’t think this before of course. Trump just tells these respondents how to think I guess.

“Better still not mess with that second amendment though! That’s the sacred one! That fits in with my narrative still!”


Left center with a slight liberal bias? Wow - Ya sure got 'em now!
Guess that beats the extreme right, tinfoil hat sites we see linked around here so frequently. ;)
I am just giving perspective. Care to list one USA today article that leans remotely right? Go back as far as 24 mos.
Lol the poll done by Ispos speaks for itself so this is all irrelevant.
All polls are irrelevant for POTUS. Correct.
 
Ideologues on both ends can become authoritarians when given an excuse.

One of their many shared characteristics.

This isn't about both sides. Both sides are but supporting giving the president power to shut down the media. Both sides are not about giving the president the power to use law enforcement to investigate his opposition whether it's real or made it up. It's time to stop talking about both sides when you see that one side is doing the things discussed in this thread.
I see both sides doing authoritarian things.

Should I lie and pretend I only see one side doing it?
No you don't. You are lying to yourself when you say that.
Or you are, pretending that the Left doesn't do it (such as shutting down speech on campus, leveraging PC to intimidate and punish, and "cancel culture").

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, any more than I'm trying to convince Trumpsters of anything.
We are having a blunt and honest conversation mac that's all this is.

No I am not pretending. This claim that the left only shuts down college speakers is a fallacy. Right wing campuses don't invite liberals to speak period. And the right wingers that were invited to liberal campuses were extremists opposed by the students. THE STUDENTS did not want them there and there is no such thing as PC or cancel culture. What the fuck is PC Mac, the ability to speak respectfully about other cultures? Why is that such a fucking problem?

This is what happens when you try to look for similarities on both sides. I look at both sides just as much as you do, but I don't fall for right wing propaganda calling it a side. When Richard Spencer can be asked to speak at a university, where is the University requesting Malik Shabazz? That doesn't happen because conservative campuses just don't even try scheduling anyone but right wing mouths. You show me when a liberal last spoke at Liberty University or Bob Jones U. But these right wing extremists will scream loud and long when one of heir racist hate peddlers can't talk to large audiences.
 

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