POLL: The GOP and "Socialism"

[edthecynic]

Poll Pot...when it is never too late to say you are sorry...

St Ronnie funded his favorite CON$ervoFascist dictator, Pol Pot, throughout the 1980s.

 

[edthecynic]

Pol Pot was an engineering student in Paris when he was taught Marxist philosophy. The French did this stuff.

Nope, Pol Pot was always a Reagan CON$ervoFascist.

 

[SSGT Bags]

This ain't Europe bunny, and Social Security, just like ALL socialist ideas will implode just a matter of time. I am 70 my children may not see SS, and my grandchildren certainly will not.

Sure they will. All we have to do is make the rich pay their fair share and means test it.

LOL, the sound of real stupidity.
And, what exactly is the "fair share" for the rich?
Remember, you are asking them for something they don't need.

How many rich people do you know that turns down SS when eligible to receive?

Why should they?

 

[LeftofLeft]

How many of those old white conservatives use social security? We already have socialist programs, and they do what they're supposed to. We have to stop using the word socialism. People are too dumb to get over the stigma that has been attached to it by the propaganda machine. It's a buzzword that automatically shuts down the conversation. They hear it and their brains turn off.

We already have Socialism and its limited. Why expand it? Who is going to pay for it?

 

[SSGT Bags]

We have one party pushing for fascism and one party pushing for socialism. What could go wrong?

Oh pulllease stop the fascism ploy.
Race card, mysoginistic card and on and on. All toro poo poo.

 

[dblack]

We have one party pushing for fascism and one party pushing for socialism. What could go wrong?

Oh pulllease stop the fascism ploy.

Ploy? They want to wall off the country.

 

[dblack]

Looking at the poll again, I have to call BS on the way it's worded. It's suggesting that it's the "term" socialist that frightens people. The term doesn't bother me at all. But, living under a socialist regime does. Especially when you mix it up with fascism, which is also "trending".

 

[JoeB131]

LOL. Unlikely. We'll probably end up with a mix of the socialism and fascism. Which, historically, always goes really well.

no, it unlikely because your silly anarchist ideas are kind of dumb.

More likely result, we'll probably end up with some form of socialism because capitalism can't produce the jobs to keep everyone gainfully occuppied.

 

[JoeB131]

Looking at the poll again, I have to call BS on the way it's worded. It's suggesting that it's the "term" socialist that frightens people. The term doesn't bother me at all. But, living under a socialist regime does. Especially when you mix it up with fascism, which is also "trending".

What, a Stormy Mac Poll that is dishonestly worded? Say it isn't so!

 

[dblack]

LOL. Unlikely. We'll probably end up with a mix of the socialism and fascism. Which, historically, always goes really well.

no, it unlikely because your silly anarchist ideas are kind of dumb.

More likely result, we'll probably end up with some form of socialism because capitalism can't produce the jobs to keep everyone gainfully occuppied.

Nope. There's just not a consensus. Well most likely get a toxic blend of socialism and fascism. We've even got Putin lined up as a mentor.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. There's just not a consensus. Well most likely get a toxic blend of socialism and fascism. We've even got Putin lined up as a mentor.

Guy, you consider traffic signs to be fascist, so pardon me if I don't take it terribly seriously.

 

[dblack]

Nope. There's just not a consensus. Well most likely get a toxic blend of socialism and fascism. We've even got Putin lined up as a mentor.

Guy, you consider traffic signs to be fascist, so pardon me if I don't take it terribly seriously.

Only in your deluded fantasies. But it's nice tutto be thought of.

 

[francoHFW]

It makes it so much easier to distinguish between the two major political parties when the crazy democrat left finally quits the smoke and mirrors and comes out of the socialist political closet. Live with it and embrace it while you can lefties because the democrat party ain't likely to be around much longer at this rate.

I wish you mean communist, super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

Our conservative posters continue to start thread after thread pertaining to "socialism". And even though their exact definitions are fairly unclear, it's obvious they think that screaming SOCIALISM is, by itself, enough to win a debate.

As most of us can see, more and more people are becoming perfectly comfortable with the word - in part, no doubt, because the Right has completely over-used and diluted it.

How long before the Right realizes the term "socialism" no longer scares people?

Another Stormy Mac Premise that is false, that he'll argue the snot out of .

If people are becoming more comfortable with socialism, it's because they aren't old enough to remember what it looked like in practice, and because Capitalism has become such a shit sandwich.

Here's the thing.. not everything is about spin. People on the right who complain about socialism really are worried about socialism and the limits on behavior it would have to impose. Just like folks on the left have valid concerns about racism, as much as you like to pretend they don't.

My worry is that the Bernie Bros will dominate the Dems, and then WHEN (not if) Trump fails, they'll be in a position to impose some of their bad ideas along with the good ones.

Socialism is not the same as communism, brainwashed functional moron. Just Fair capitalism. Everyone outside the GOP bubble of BS knows it... It's Canada New Zealand Australia the EU. Try and remain calm.

 

[SSGT Bags]

This ain't Europe bunny, and Social Security, just like ALL socialist ideas will implode just a matter of time. I am 70 my children may not see SS, and my grandchildren certainly will not.

Sure they will. All we have to do is make the rich pay their fair share and means test it.

LOL, the sound of real stupidity.
And, what exactly is the "fair share" for the rich?
Remember, you are asking them for something they don't need.

So what's you're saying it's ok if someone making over $128,000 annually doesn't have to pay into social security? If there was no stop gap SS would be solvent a 100 years from now.

Social Security Administration announces small increase in 2018 wage base

Are you serious?
I made over 128K most of my life.
I stopped paying at 128K, I payed until then.
I took risks for better jobs, put 3 children thru college, been drawing my pension and SS for 8 years now.
My 401K is untouched, now tell me (means test) why since I saved MY money, I should donate to the idiots who did not save, or risk better jobs?
Socialistic idiot!

 

[Jarlaxle]

How many of those old white conservatives use social security? We already have socialist programs, and they do what they're supposed to. We have to stop using the word socialism. People are too dumb to get over the stigma that has been attached to it by the propaganda machine. It's a buzzword that automatically shuts down the conversation. They hear it and their brains turn off.

SS is the perfect analogy of why socialism sucks.

You and your employers pay in for your entire life to a government program that is purposely designed to pay you nothing in return. They dictate when you can receive benefits and do their best to make sure that age is pretty much when you are expected to die. If you do somehow outlive the rules? You get a token payout for a little while that’s nowhere near enough to live on.

That’s pretty much the core of socialism don’t you think?

Originally, the premise was quite simple: on average, you could collect about 4 years after you died.

 

[Jarlaxle]

What are you going to cut? Don't touch SS.

Everything. Fire up the chainsaws and get slashing.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Our conservative posters continue to start thread after thread pertaining to "socialism". And even though their exact definitions are fairly unclear, it's obvious they think that screaming SOCIALISM is, by itself, enough to win a debate.

As most of us can see, more and more people are becoming perfectly comfortable with the word - in part, no doubt, because the Right has completely over-used and diluted it.

How long before the Right realizes the term "socialism" no longer scares people?
.

So based upon the responses, it is the Left who don’t understand socialism and what it is. Which is why they think they love it.

 

[Brain357]

Our conservative posters continue to start thread after thread pertaining to "socialism". And even though their exact definitions are fairly unclear, it's obvious they think that screaming SOCIALISM is, by itself, enough to win a debate.

As most of us can see, more and more people are becoming perfectly comfortable with the word - in part, no doubt, because the Right has completely over-used and diluted it.

How long before the Right realizes the term "socialism" no longer scares people?
.

So based upon the responses, it is the Left who don’t understand socialism and what it is. Which is why they think they love it.

You seem to have no understanding.

 

[JoeB131]

You are quite a fool. Social security was sold as being paid for by its own separate payroll taxes. And they have never been cut. Ever.

No, what they did do was take that money and convert it into bonds to pay for tax cuts for rich people.

Now that they are coming back with those bonds looking for payment, you have Paul Ryan saying, 'We need to cut back on entitlements".