Poor poor liberal gun grabbers.

[danielpalos]

dude; here is the argument you need to rebut:

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

 

[LOki]

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

You either have a valid argument or you don't have any standing due to a lack of a clue or a Cause.

The arguments refuting your errors of fact and faulty logic have been presented, and have not been contested.

Repetition of your obvious errors of fact, your own faulty logic, your intentionally cultivated ignorance, and your mendacious denials of reality have lead you, predictably, once more to your place of shame.

You are wrong. AGAIN. STILL.

P.S. Your failure to bring any substantive support to your assertions--despite your every opportunity to do so--is rendering you rather boring. Is that what your oft cited " Patton Doctrine (of argumentation) " refers to... boring your opponent into submission?

If so, its working.

dude; here is the argument you need to rebut:

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

There is no mention of any States' right, and the right described by the 2nd Amendment quite clealy belongs to the People, rather than the State.

YOU are obligated to demonstrate your States' right argument with valid logic applied to verifiable evidence. Requiring me to refute your unsupported claim is illicitly shifting the burden of proof; it is, ironically, an appeal to ignorance.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

Repetition of your obvious errors of fact, your own faulty logic, your intentionally cultivated ignorance, and your mendacious denials of reality have lead you, predictably, once more to your place of shame.

You are wrong. AGAIN. STILL.

 

[danielpalos]

You have to answer with a valid argument or you are just full of fallacy.

How stupid are you exactly?

Not as stupid as those who Only have have fallacy for their Cause. Any questions?

Look you stupid nut job. I posted about the butthurt you and the gun grabbing left wing idiots like you have been experiencing lately. You called it a diversion. This thread is about the butthurt. It is not a diversion. Have I dumbed this down enough for your stupid ass?

dude; you have nothing but fallacy for your Cause; how inferior is that.

And you have nothing but dodge and diversion. But hey! Thanks for keeping this thread on the first page!

Left wing nut gun grabbing butthurt can be useful.

No problem. I don't mind all of Your cognitive dissonance, exogenous to myself. I love to prove the efficacy of my medication as a palliative.

 

[danielpalos]

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of our own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

The defense and protection of the State and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the State. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311-The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age....

 

[LOki]

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of four own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

Repetition of your obvious errors of fact, your own faulty logic, your intentionally cultivated ignorance, and your mendacious denials of reality have lead you, predictably, once more to your place of shame.

You are wrong. AGAIN. STILL.

 

[danielpalos]

Here is the argument you need to refute, unless you Only have fallacy for your Cause.

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of our own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

The defense and protection of the State and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the State. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311-The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age....

Any questions?

 

[WinterBorn]

dude; here is the argument you need to rebut:

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

The Bill of Rights is specifically for individual citizens. The 1st amendment does not give the states freedom of speech. It gives it to individuals.

 

[WinterBorn]

Here is the argument you need to refute, unless you Only have fallacy for your Cause.

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of our own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

The defense and protection of the State and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the State. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311-The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age....

Any questions?

Just one. Why is the 2nd amendment the only one that applies solely to the state?

 

[danielpalos]

dude; here is the argument you need to rebut:

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

The Bill of Rights is specifically for individual citizens. The 1st amendment does not give the states freedom of speech. It gives it to individuals.

That is a myth. There is no general rule for our Bill of Rights. The terms are explicit and leave no room for ambiguity.

 

[danielpalos]

Here is the argument you need to refute, unless you Only have fallacy for your Cause.

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of our own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

The defense and protection of the State and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the State. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311-The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age....

Any questions?

Just one. Why is the 2nd amendment the only one that applies solely to the state?

Because that is the Intent and Purpose for free States.

 

[WinterBorn]

dude; here is the argument you need to rebut:

Here it is again, for those of the opposing who won't get it, without the constant repetition of simple propaganda and rhetoric:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

That Obligation of the People, is a States' right secured by our Second Article of Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It really is that simple; except to the disingenuous right.

The Bill of Rights is specifically for individual citizens. The 1st amendment does not give the states freedom of speech. It gives it to individuals.

That is a myth. There is no general rule for our Bill of Rights. The terms are explicit and leave no room for ambiguity.

So you are maintaining that the Bill of Rights is about preserving the rights of the states??? Really?

 

[WinterBorn]

Here is the argument you need to refute, unless you Only have fallacy for your Cause.

Not sure how you reached your conclusion without appealing to ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of our own laws. The term "State" is found in both laws, which are supreme in a State and the Union.

The defense and protection of the State and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the State. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311-The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age....

Any questions?

Just one. Why is the 2nd amendment the only one that applies solely to the state?

Because that is the Intent and Purpose for free States.

So only the 2nd amendment is about the states, and the rest of teh Bill of Rights is about individual rights?

 

[danielpalos]

I am saying the Terms denote the Intent and Purpose.

How do those of your point of view account for the Term "militia" that is found in our Second Article of Amendment?

How do those of your point of view compare and contrast the terms "militia" and "the People", in the context of our Second Article of Amendment?

 

[WinterBorn]

I am saying the Terms denote the Intent and Purpose.

How do those of your point of view account for the Term "militia" that is found in our Second Article of Amendment?

How do those of your point of view compare and contrast the terms "militia" and "the People", in the context of our Second Article of Amendment?

The term "militia" was not intended to be a state military. It was intended to be citizens who took up arms to defend their country. The citizens are who is protected by the Bill of Rights. That is why James Madison wrote most of them, as a response to requests for safeguards for the individual rights of the citizenry.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Only if you ignore the second part of the sentence "... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.".

The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled this to be an individual right, not a states right. The intent was to make sure the population could defend the nation, not to provide for a state military.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Only if you ignore the second part of the sentence "... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.".

The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled this to be an individual right, not a states right. The intent was to make sure the population could defend the nation, not to provide for a state military.

How does applying 10USC311 ignore the second clause?

Not all of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; well regulated militias are expressly declared necessary to the security of a free State.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Only if you ignore the second part of the sentence "... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.".

The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled this to be an individual right, not a states right. The intent was to make sure the population could defend the nation, not to provide for a state military.

How does applying 10USC311 ignore the second clause?

Not all of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; well regulated militias are expressly declared necessary to the security of a free State.

The citizens become the well regulated militia when needed, and live their lives when it is not.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Only if you ignore the second part of the sentence "... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.".

The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled this to be an individual right, not a states right. The intent was to make sure the population could defend the nation, not to provide for a state military.

How does applying 10USC311 ignore the second clause?

Not all of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; well regulated militias are expressly declared necessary to the security of a free State.

The citizens become the well regulated militia when needed, and live their lives when it is not.

You are ignoring ("select") militia such as State national guard and State (militia) "self-defense forces" as Part of the (organized) Militia of the United States; the rest of the Militia of the United States is not considered organized--and, that specifically includes gun lovers who refuse to love their Republic as much as they claim to love their guns; and are therefore, not necessary to the security of a free State; as declared in our Second Amendment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws; especially this one--10USC311.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Thus, it is easy to recognize that what must be a States right secured by our Second Amendment.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

This is as idiotic as the thread premise, the BoR enshrine individual, not states' rights.