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[Toddsterpatriot]

At Chernobyl their core completely melted down. It is supposed to remain dangerous for the next 4.5 billion years.

Liar.

 

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[myself]

The Reactor Core at three mile island has already been removed.

You really do not know anything about Nuclear power and hence radiation. The containment building is still there. Still radioactive inside. Hence a bit expensive to dismantle but it could be done today. Just expensive. In 60 years the radiation levels will be at a harmless level, so workers will be able to enter and dismantle the plant with zero problems from radiation.

It is known as HALF LIFE. In 60 years the radioactive elements in TMI will have decayed to harmless levels.

The nuclear fuel is already removed with zero incidents.

Well excuse me for thinking logically. The melted core at Chernobyl, the "elephant's foot," they apparently even get near to. At least not for long. Or maybe sealing off the object itself would be too expensive. I don't know. But whatever the case, it is logical that the part of the core at TMI that did melt would be every bit as dangerous. Even if it wasn't, they still removed 183,000 pounds of damaged fuel assemblies and 308,000 pounds of radioactive material from the reactor vessel. That mustn't have been an easy undertaking. Even then, there is no place to permanently store the stuff. No state wants something under their soil that will basically remain dangerous for millions or billions of years.

 

[myself]

Because it would be stupid.

Not if it's done right.

 

[myself]

Liar.

I'm not a liar. I'm just repeating what I read some time ago. And that's what they said. Though your accusation caused me to do some more looking around on the matter. And there are no good answers to be found. One site says that Chernobyl will be safe to live in anywhere from 20 years to several hundred years. Another site says it will take anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 years.

I also found some other information that may interest you. Uranium 238 has a half life of over 4 billion years. Pu-239 has a half life of 24,000 years. Tc-99 has a half life of 220,000 years. I-129 has a half life of 15.7 million years.

 

[elektra]

Well excuse me for thinking logically. The melted core at Chernobyl, the "elephant's foot," they apparently even get near to. At least not for long. Or maybe sealing off the object itself would be too expensive. I don't know. But whatever the case, it is logical that the part of the core at TMI that did melt would be every bit as dangerous. Even if it wasn't, they still removed 183,000 pounds of damaged fuel assemblies and 308,000 pounds of radioactive material from the reactor vessel. That mustn't have been an easy undertaking. Even then, there is no place to permanently store the stuff. No state wants something under their soil that will basically remain dangerous for millions or billions of years.

It don't stay dangerous that long. And all states have something that radioactive and dangerous beneath their soil. It is called the earth's core.

Further it is not logical to compare a pressurized water reactor within 3 containments to a liquid metal reactor in 1 containment. One operated by the USA which is much more technically advanced than Russia.

 

[myself]

It don't stay dangerous that long. And all states have something that radioactive and dangerous beneath their soil. It is called the earth's core.

Further it is not logical to compare a pressurized water reactor within 3 containments to a liquid metal reactor in 1 containment. One operated by the USA which is much more technically advanced than Russia.

The earth's core is called a core for a reason. It never comes to the surface. Next, I wasn't comparing anything to anything.

 

[elektra]

The earth's core is called a core for a reason. It never comes to the surface. Next, I wasn't comparing anything to anything.

Let's play jeopardy.

What is a volcano.

 

[myself]

Let's play jeopardy.

What is a volcano.

Magma lakes from which volcanoes get their lava exist in the earth's mantle. That's way different from the core.

 

[elektra]

Magma lakes from which volcanoes get their lava exist in the earth's mantle. That's way different from the core.

What is Hawaii.

Not a magma lake

 

[elektra]

Magma lakes from which volcanoes get their lava exist in the earth's mantle. That's way different from the core.

And, I was just throwing that core stuff out there to make you think, our core is not highly radioactive.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not if it's done right.

LOL!

You need clear panels that are strong enough to support up to 80,000 pound trucks.

And you also need to keep them clean.

It's a moronic idea, even compared to all your other moronic ideas.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm not a liar. I'm just repeating what I read some time ago. And that's what they said. Though your accusation caused me to do some more looking around on the matter. And there are no good answers to be found. One site says that Chernobyl will be safe to live in anywhere from 20 years to several hundred years. Another site says it will take anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 years.

I also found some other information that may interest you. Uranium 238 has a half life of over 4 billion years. Pu-239 has a half life of 24,000 years. Tc-99 has a half life of 220,000 years. I-129 has a half life of 15.7 million years.

I'm not a liar.

Then you're an idiot.

Uranium 238 has a half life of over 4 billion years.

Which makes it one of the least dangerous radioactive elements.

 

[Old Rocks]

Let's play jeopardy.

What is a volcano.

You did not specify what kind of volcano. Plume or subduction? Most volcanic material comes from no deeper than 500 miles beneath the crust. Plume volcanoes come from much deeper, but have generated above the core. And the core itself is primarily nickel-iron, not radioactive. Mrs. Elektra, you just lost at jeopardy. LOL

 

[Silver Cat]

You are right. I wasn't close to right. I don't know what I was thinking. The earth hasn't been this hot in the last 18,000 years. It hasn't been this hot in the past 125,000 years.

inhabitat.com › the-last-time-earth-was-this-hotThe last time Earth was this hot was 125,000 years ago

Actually, it was much warmer in the Eemiam than now.

Last Interglacial - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

At the peak of the Eemian, the Northern Hemisphere winters were generally warmer and wetter than now, though some areas were actually slightly cooler than today. The hippopotamus was distributed as far north as the rivers Rhine and Thames.[11] Trees grew as far north as southern Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago: currently, the northern limit is further south at Kuujjuaq in northern Quebec. Coastal Alaska was warm enough during the summer due to reduced sea ice in the Arctic Ocean to allow Saint Lawrence Island (now tundra) to have boreal forest, although inadequate precipitation caused a reduction in the forest cover in interior Alaska and Yukon Territory despite warmer conditions.[12] The prairie-forest boundary in the Great Plains of the United States lay further west near Lubbock, Texas, whereas the current boundary is near Dallas.
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And even at Holocene climate optimum there was a bit warmer that now.

Holocene climatic optimum - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Holocene Climate Optimum warm event consisted of increases of up to 4 °C near the North Pole (in one study, winter warming of 3 to 9 °C and summer of 2 to 6 °C in northern central Siberia).[1] Northwestern Europe experienced warming, but there was cooling in Southern Europe.[2] The average temperature change appears to have declined rapidly with latitude and so essentially no change in mean temperature is reported at low and middle latitudes. Tropical reefs tend to show temperature increases of less than 1 °C. The tropical ocean surface at the Great Barrier Reef about 5350 years ago was 1 °C warmer and enriched in 18O by 0.5 per mil relative to modern seawater.[3] In terms of the global average, temperatures were probably warmer than now, depending on estimates of latitude dependence and seasonality in response patterns.[citation needed] Temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere were warmer than average during the summers, but the tropics and parts of the Southern Hemisphere were colder than average.[4]

Of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions that were warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites for which quantitative estimates have been obtained, local temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher during the optimum than now. Northwestern North America reached peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, but the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled eastern Canada. Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than now.[5] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than now.[6]

Current desert regions of Central Asia were extensively forested because of higher rainfall, and the warm temperate forest belts in China and Japan were extended northwards.[7]

West African sediments additionally record the African humid period, an interval between 16,000 and 6,000 years ago during which Africa was much wetter than now. That was caused by a strengthening of the African monsoon by changes in summer radiation, which resulted from long-term variations in the Earth's orbit around the Sun. The "Green Sahara" was dotted with numerous lakes, containing typical African lake crocodile and hippopotamus fauna.

 

[elektra]

You did not specify what kind of volcano. Plume or subduction? Most volcanic material comes from no deeper than 500 miles beneath the crust. Plume volcanoes come from much deeper, but have generated above the core. And the core itself is primarily nickel-iron, not radioactive. Mrs. Elektra, you just lost at jeopardy. LOL

I already said the core was not radioactive?

 

[myself]

What is Hawaii.

Not a magma lake

There is probably one beneath it.

 

[myself]

And, I was just throwing that core stuff out there to make you think, our core is not highly radioactive.

It may be.

 

[myself]

LOL!

You need clear panels that are strong enough to support up to 80,000 pound trucks.

And you also need to keep them clean.

It's a moronic idea, even compared to all your other moronic ideas.

The panels wouldn't have to be clear. Just translucent. And they can be made to be strong. Also, usually when I see a road, I can see the pavement. That is clean enough. Next, if they had a picture of a moron in the dictionary, it would probably be a picture of you.

 

[myself]

I'm not a liar.

Then you're an idiot.

Uranium 238 has a half life of over 4 billion years.

Which makes it one of the least dangerous radioactive elements.

I'm surprised you're smart enough to breathe. Also, what that half life thing means id that in over 4 billion years, Uranium 238 would have lost half of its radioactivity.