Proof How Your Religion Could Be Made Up

[Inevitable]

Yeah, believe what we tell you, did we mention tithing? Well pass the plate and be sure to tithe, or you know hell and all that. Wait, this isn't about money.

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

That's defensive. Why do you feel you need to defend yourself against a non believer?

I'm merely stating the truth about the thread. I don't need to defend myself against anyone.

Your words tell a different story.

 

[Inevitable]

Yeah, believe what we tell you, did we mention tithing? Well pass the plate and be sure to tithe, or you know hell and all that. Wait, this isn't about money.

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

That's defensive. Why do you feel you need to defend yourself against a non believer?

Notice how hadit is wasting time deflecting the subject to if and or why he's being defensive? Who gives a rats ass? I've hadit!!!

Something I said stuck in his craw.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah, believe what we tell you, did we mention tithing? Well pass the plate and be sure to tithe, or you know hell and all that. Wait, this isn't about money.

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

 

[Hollie]

A book of supernatural fables written 2600 years after Homer told his wild stories? And I'm to believe it?

Do you believe Homer existed?

They aren't even certain of that. See how you can't believe anything you read from those times? I take everything I read with a grain of salt especially if the stories are too good to be true.

Precisely. That's why you have to experience things for yourself. Here's the difference. The militant atheist will not only refuse to believe the testimony of others, he will refuse to believe his own senses if what they tell him violates what he's been told by the group of people he's chosen to believe.

I'm delighted you accept Vishnu, unless you refuse to believe the testimony of others as to the existence of that particular gawd.

 

[RandomVariable]

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

That tree hugging stuff makes much more sense now.

 

[sealybobo]

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

That tree hugging stuff makes much more sense now.

Or god made each animal separate. He got high one night and made 1 million different beatles alone. And for some reason 99% of his creations no longer exists. Hardly an intelligent designer.

 

[RandomVariable]

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

That tree hugging stuff makes much more sense now.

Or god made each animal separate. He got high one night and made 1 million different beatles alone. And for some reason 99% of his creations no longer exists. Hardly an intelligent designer.

It was a snap of the fingers for God. When Adam saw he had to name them all...

 

[sealybobo]

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

That tree hugging stuff makes much more sense now.

Or god made each animal separate. He got high one night and made 1 million different beatles alone. And for some reason 99% of his creations no longer exists. Hardly an intelligent designer.

It was a snap of the fingers for God. When Adam saw he had to name them all...

Did Moses write that 1600 years before Christ like you guys once claimed or now I learned it was written 500 bce. Big difference. And the oldest bible is only 1600 years old 400 years after Christ. Yea I believe that.

 

[RandomVariable]

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

That tree hugging stuff makes much more sense now.

Or god made each animal separate. He got high one night and made 1 million different beatles alone. And for some reason 99% of his creations no longer exists. Hardly an intelligent designer.

It was a snap of the fingers for God. When Adam saw he had to name them all...

Did Moses write that 1600 years before Christ like you guys once claimed or now I learned it was written 500 bce. Big difference. And the oldest bible is only 1600 years old 400 years after Christ. Yea I believe that.

Have to get someone else on that one. I am purely OT.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Did Moses write that 1600 years before Christ like you guys once claimed or now I learned it was written 500 bce. Big difference. And the oldest bible is only 1600 years old 400 years after Christ. Yea I believe that.

I'm curious....you do realize that there is a difference between "the oldest Bible" and "the first Bible", right?........how old is your oldest pair of underwear?......

 

[sealybobo]

Did Moses write that 1600 years before Christ like you guys once claimed or now I learned it was written 500 bce. Big difference. And the oldest bible is only 1600 years old 400 years after Christ. Yea I believe that.

I'm curious....you do realize that there is a difference between "the oldest Bible" and "the first Bible", right?........how old is your oldest pair of underwear?......

I find it hard to believe you threw away Paul uke and juhns first underwear. My parents saved my baby shoes.

Didn't you guys save the shroud of turan? The rag Jesus wiped his bloody face with? You saved that but not the original scripts? Bullshit

 

[hadit]

A book of supernatural fables written 2600 years after Homer told his wild stories? And I'm to believe it?

Do you believe Homer existed?

They aren't even certain of that. See how you can't believe anything you read from those times? I take everything I read with a grain of salt especially if the stories are too good to be true.

Precisely. That's why you have to experience things for yourself. Here's the difference. The militant atheist will not only refuse to believe the testimony of others, he will refuse to believe his own senses if what they tell him violates what he's been told by the group of people he's chosen to believe.

I'm delighted you accept Vishnu, unless you refuse to believe the testimony of others as to the existence of that particular gawd.

Where did I say I accept Vishnu?

 

[hadit]

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

No evolutionary biologist is going to tell you we were descended from monkeys. They will tell you man and monkeys have a common ancestor. I think you need to do a little research into what you believe.

 

[hadit]

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

That's defensive. Why do you feel you need to defend yourself against a non believer?

I just had another thought and want to run it by you. The other day I reminded Christian men that wacking off to their married neighbors wife is committing adultery

Of course it's not. Now, how does any of that explain why you think I'm being defensive?

Lets get back on subject. Homer is best known as the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey. Author of the first known literature of Europe, he had a lasting effect on the Western canon. Homer lived 850 BCE

Jews claim Moses wrote the Old Testament between the 16th and 12th century BCE. Pretty fucking vague don't you think?

Scholars now believe it was written 5th century BCE.

Do you see how imaginative people became after Homer? 300 years after Homer you guys made up the Old Testament and lied about when it was written until that was debunked. But that didn't stop your religions from continuing the farse. And then anywhere from 1000 to 2000 years ago someone made up Christianity and you all bought it. A small start up cult for non Jews. And boy did it stick. Well so does Islam, Mormonism & Scientology. What can I say? People are dumb.

Can you prove Homer even existed? You seem to believe he did.

No reason to doubt he didn't exist. They didn't say he performed miracles or that he was a god.

If I tell you I'm short fat and ugly, do you believe me? You have no reason to doubt that. But if I tell you I'm tall slim and pretty and I am a god, do you believe me still? See the difference?

So you choose to believe he exists because someone told you he did, and you don't care whether he did or not?

I remain open to the possibility a man named Homer existed and wrote the Odyssey and Iliad but its debatable. I'm not skeptical nor do I care. Some think a young Sicilian woman wrote the Odyssey.

But it really doesn't matter. I'm not going to hell on my final answer, am I?

Right, you believe stuff because people tell you stuff, yet you get very upset when someone believes things you don't believe. As for going to hell, that's between you and God.

 

[hadit]

A book of supernatural fables written 2600 years after Homer told his wild stories? And I'm to believe it?

Do you believe Homer existed?

They aren't even certain of that. See how you can't believe anything you read from those times? I take everything I read with a grain of salt especially if the stories are too good to be true.

Precisely. That's why you have to experience things for yourself. Here's the difference. The militant atheist will not only refuse to believe the testimony of others, he will refuse to believe his own senses if what they tell him violates what he's been told by the group of people he's chosen to believe.

My Christian friends swore a ghost lived in their basement. They all claim to have seen it. I went down with the lights off and door closed and mother fucked that ghost. He didn't come out. Know why? Because they are a bunch of superstitious nincompoops. Typical theists. Sorry, no I don't believe what you saw or heard.

IOW, you went down there once and demanded whatever was there show itself, and because it didn't bow to your authority, you claim no one EVER saw or experienced ANYTHING at all in that basement. How absurd. You might as well claim the janitor doesn't exist because you went into the gym one Sunday night and yelled for him to come out.

Which again is why I say you have to experience God for yourself. The militant atheist's problem, however, is that he will not only reject what others say, but will reject his own experience. That is why "do a trick" is nonsense.

The most you can say is that you haven't experienced anything outside of your humdrum daily life. You can't speak to what others have.

 

[sealybobo]

It's the wording you used in your first post.

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

No evolutionary biologist is going to tell you we were descended from monkeys. They will tell you man and monkeys have a common ancestor. I think you need to do a little research into what you believe.

What's the diff?

 

[sealybobo]

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

That's defensive. Why do you feel you need to defend yourself against a non believer?

I just had another thought and want to run it by you. The other day I reminded Christian men that wacking off to their married neighbors wife is committing adultery

Lets get back on subject. Homer is best known as the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey. Author of the first known literature of Europe, he had a lasting effect on the Western canon. Homer lived 850 BCE

Jews claim Moses wrote the Old Testament between the 16th and 12th century BCE. Pretty fucking vague don't you think?

Scholars now believe it was written 5th century BCE.

Do you see how imaginative people became after Homer? 300 years after Homer you guys made up the Old Testament and lied about when it was written until that was debunked. But that didn't stop your religions from continuing the farse. And then anywhere from 1000 to 2000 years ago someone made up Christianity and you all bought it. A small start up cult for non Jews. And boy did it stick. Well so does Islam, Mormonism & Scientology. What can I say? People are dumb.

Can you prove Homer even existed? You seem to believe he did.

No reason to doubt he didn't exist. They didn't say he performed miracles or that he was a god.

If I tell you I'm short fat and ugly, do you believe me? You have no reason to doubt that. But if I tell you I'm tall slim and pretty and I am a god, do you believe me still? See the difference?

So you choose to believe he exists because someone told you he did, and you don't care whether he did or not?

I remain open to the possibility a man named Homer existed and wrote the Odyssey and Iliad but its debatable. I'm not skeptical nor do I care. Some think a young Sicilian woman wrote the Odyssey.

But it really doesn't matter. I'm not going to hell on my final answer, am I?

Right, you believe stuff because people tell you stuff, yet you get very upset when someone believes things you don't believe. As for going to hell, that's between you and God.

I believe some stuff based on evidence.

And I don't get upset.

And there is no god and hell. Unless you believe god came in the form of Jesus and then that makes you a little dumb in my opinion.

 

[sealybobo]

A book of supernatural fables written 2600 years after Homer told his wild stories? And I'm to believe it?

Do you believe Homer existed?

They aren't even certain of that. See how you can't believe anything you read from those times? I take everything I read with a grain of salt especially if the stories are too good to be true.

Precisely. That's why you have to experience things for yourself. Here's the difference. The militant atheist will not only refuse to believe the testimony of others, he will refuse to believe his own senses if what they tell him violates what he's been told by the group of people he's chosen to believe.

My Christian friends swore a ghost lived in their basement. They all claim to have seen it. I went down with the lights off and door closed and mother fucked that ghost. He didn't come out. Know why? Because they are a bunch of superstitious nincompoops. Typical theists. Sorry, no I don't believe what you saw or heard.

IOW, you went down there once and demanded whatever was there show itself, and because it didn't bow to your authority, you claim no one EVER saw or experienced ANYTHING at all in that basement. How absurd. You might as well claim the janitor doesn't exist because you went into the gym one Sunday night and yelled for him to come out.

Which again is why I say you have to experience God for yourself. The militant atheist's problem, however, is that he will not only reject what others say, but will reject his own experience. That is why "do a trick" is nonsense.

The most you can say is that you haven't experienced anything outside of your humdrum daily life. You can't speak to what others have.

I should be living in ignorant bliss like you guys.

 

[hadit]

Do you mean where I said "Yet another evangelistic atheist thread in yet another vain attempt to belittle those who freely choose to believe differently"? Because that's true. What other purpose is there to such a thread? Every single believer has considered the possibility that what we heard was made up, then based on our experiences decided that it was not.

We're trying to help wake you up. We don't think it is good for people. Same way you tell people about god because you do think it is good for people. Because you think it is good for you. Is ignorant bliss good? We think "they" use it to control us, keep us down, justify their bad deeds. Ever hear the saying?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

And we really only argue with people who think we're going to hell because we don't believe in their god. We have fun going inside the mind of a wackado theist. Its annoying in person so we come here to hear what you guys really think, try to explain to you how it got in our heads and why you choose to believe the supernatural. Its all in your heads.

And it is sad you are wasting this life waiting for the next. Make this one count because when its over it is over. You are just another animal on this planet. You just happen to be the top of the food chain at this moment in history. The end could come for mammals and crocs and sharks will rule this planet. No god or heaven for them either. The solar system does not care about humans. There are probably millions of other planets with life on them. Billions. Maybe even an infinite number if that's comprehendable.

Put the universe on a 12 month calendar and we've only been here for 40 seconds. Did god care about the Trilobites the millions of years they ruled before the dinosaurs? Is there a Trilobite heaven? How about a dinosaur heaven? No god that cares about you is watching. Don't kill yourself over it. Just make the most of this life. You are extremely lucky you didn't up on the bed sheets like all your potential brothers and sisters that were never born were. And thank whatever monkey ancestor that came 1 million years before you for surviving and passing on their genes to the next generation all the way until you were born. It is amazing. We are so lucky we live as long as we do. Imagine if you were a Mosquito.

Bloodsucking mosquitoes, depending on species, gender, and weather conditions, have potential adult lifespans ranging from as short as a week to as long as several months.

Do you seriously believe man is descended from monkeys? I'll take that as an example of the things you believe because you were told that are not supported by fact.

Evolution is a fact. Not only are you related to monkeys we are related to all living things including trees. Welcome to the 20th century.

No evolutionary biologist is going to tell you we were descended from monkeys. They will tell you man and monkeys have a common ancestor. I think you need to do a little research into what you believe.

What's the diff?

Are you really so intellectually lazy that you don't want to be accurate? I thought that's what you accused people of faith as being.

 

[hadit]

Do you believe Homer existed?

They aren't even certain of that. See how you can't believe anything you read from those times? I take everything I read with a grain of salt especially if the stories are too good to be true.

Precisely. That's why you have to experience things for yourself. Here's the difference. The militant atheist will not only refuse to believe the testimony of others, he will refuse to believe his own senses if what they tell him violates what he's been told by the group of people he's chosen to believe.

My Christian friends swore a ghost lived in their basement. They all claim to have seen it. I went down with the lights off and door closed and mother fucked that ghost. He didn't come out. Know why? Because they are a bunch of superstitious nincompoops. Typical theists. Sorry, no I don't believe what you saw or heard.

IOW, you went down there once and demanded whatever was there show itself, and because it didn't bow to your authority, you claim no one EVER saw or experienced ANYTHING at all in that basement. How absurd. You might as well claim the janitor doesn't exist because you went into the gym one Sunday night and yelled for him to come out.

Which again is why I say you have to experience God for yourself. The militant atheist's problem, however, is that he will not only reject what others say, but will reject his own experience. That is why "do a trick" is nonsense.

The most you can say is that you haven't experienced anything outside of your humdrum daily life. You can't speak to what others have.

I should be living in ignorant bliss like you guys.

It would seem to me that insisting there can be nothing beyond what fits your immediate knowledge sphere is more living in ignorant bliss.