Q:How badly is govt-sponsored education failing? A: A significant number are voting for a socialist!

[francoHFW]

All the winner countries are socialist . And that includes the USA .

But we could do so much better without the new bs GOP...

 

[ScienceRocks]

All the winner countries are socialist . And that includes the USA .

Social democracies! Hybrid systems that don't allow the big guys to kill all the small business.

There's a reason we were so successful during the 20th century.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

^^^Public education results

Name a single country that doesn't have public education within the top 30. You can't simply because private education favors the few at the top.

You don't take care of those results by throwing most of the country out on the street.

I've seen private schools vs public schools....it's not even close, private schools shellac public.

Not true . If that was so , every private college would rank ahead of all the public schools .

Plus, public schools have to take everyone . Private schools do not .

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

 

[francoHFW]

Name a single country that doesn't have public education within the top 30. You can't simply because private education favors the few at the top.

You don't take care of those results by throwing most of the country out on the street.

I've seen private schools vs public schools....it's not even close, private schools shellac public.

Not true . If that was so , every private college would rank ahead of all the public schools .

Plus, public schools have to take everyone . Private schools do not .

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

People with money do better. Duh.

 

[Timmy]

Name a single country that doesn't have public education within the top 30. You can't simply because private education favors the few at the top.

You don't take care of those results by throwing most of the country out on the street.

I've seen private schools vs public schools....it's not even close, private schools shellac public.

Not true . If that was so , every private college would rank ahead of all the public schools .

Plus, public schools have to take everyone . Private schools do not .

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

And what do those private specialized schools charge in tuition ????

I'll give u a hint, it's way more than the per pupil cost of public schools that also service special needs .

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I've seen private schools vs public schools....it's not even close, private schools shellac public.

Not true . If that was so , every private college would rank ahead of all the public schools .

Plus, public schools have to take everyone . Private schools do not .

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

And what do those private specialized schools charge in tuition ????

I'll give u a hint, it's way more than the per pupil cost of public schools that also service special needs .

It depends on the school. Anywhere from 5k -25K a year. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[francoHFW]

Charter schools have proved to be worse than public ones. The problem is classes are too large, not enough is spent in poor areas, and poverty and poverty culture is not condusive to education.

 

[Timmy]

Not true . If that was so , every private college would rank ahead of all the public schools .

Plus, public schools have to take everyone . Private schools do not .

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

And what do those private specialized schools charge in tuition ????

I'll give u a hint, it's way more than the per pupil cost of public schools that also service special needs .

It depends on the school. Anywhere from 5k -25K a year. What does that have to do with anything?

Well conservatives claim private can do better than public , but ignore the fact that public schools have to educate all kinds of kids .

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That's why they are elite, I saw it last weekend in debates between schools....top five places went to private schools, it was almost sad watching public school kids struggle. They were not prepared, ill informed and had very poor presentation skills.

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

And what do those private specialized schools charge in tuition ????

I'll give u a hint, it's way more than the per pupil cost of public schools that also service special needs .

It depends on the school. Anywhere from 5k -25K a year. What does that have to do with anything?

Well conservatives claim private can do better than public , but ignore the fact that public schools have to educate all kinds of kids .

Private does do better, there isn't the distractions public schools have. More discipline and a better curriculum

 

[francoHFW]

We'll maybe you'd like to live in those countries where disabled kids are just cast aside as not deserving education.

There are disabled children in private schools. Now you're just being stupid

And what do those private specialized schools charge in tuition ????

I'll give u a hint, it's way more than the per pupil cost of public schools that also service special needs .

It depends on the school. Anywhere from 5k -25K a year. What does that have to do with anything?

Well conservatives claim private can do better than public , but ignore the fact that public schools have to educate all kinds of kids .

Private does do better, there isn't the distractions public schools have. More discipline and a better curriculum

Distractions like poverty, no father around, bullets flying around, rats in the cold classroom, the whole GOP world of tomorrow. lol. You don't care, have another wine...

 

[Slyhunter]

As technology replaces low skill workers with bots our poor will either starve or subsist on handouts. I may be next to lose my job to automated self driving vehicles. either were heartless and we let them starve or we become more socialized.

 

[initforme]

The thread is a croc. But I dofind it both funny and cool to see such a thing as a socialist who is gaining traction with millions of people. It drives the right wing far eighties crazy and that's even more hilarious than trump driving the left wing wackos. The whole election is comical and provides endless entertainment. And yes all the 5th grade teachers out there are indoctrinating our kids. Lmao.

 

[initforme]

If private schools are that much better then take every disruptive low performing kid and ship them all to those schools. Make them accept all. No expulsions. Then let's see.

 

[Arianrhod]

So rather than focus on significant factors such as the U.S. global ranking in math and science:

Here's The New Ranking Of Top Countries In Reading, Science, And Math

Little-Acorn and friends are hyper-focused on a word they think means something that it does not mean.

And this is why the U.S. ranks as low as it does in math and science.

Well, that and the Young Earthers and the homeschoolers and poor prenatal nutrition and...

 

[initforme]

Take a look at Finland...NO testing until they are 17. Here we test em and test em and test em again. Shorter school days, more student accountability. No blaming the teacher for every last problem.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The thread is a croc. But I dofind it both funny and cool to see such a thing as a socialist who is gaining traction with millions of people. It drives the right wing far eighties crazy and that's even more hilarious than trump driving the left wing wackos. The whole election is comical and provides endless entertainment. And yes all the 5th grade teachers out there are indoctrinating our kids. Lmao.

TRANSLATION: I can't refute anything the OP said, so I'll try to make fun of it, call it names, pretend it's unimportant, and basically divert the subject.

 

[Arianrhod]

The thread is a croc. But I dofind it both funny and cool to see such a thing as a socialist who is gaining traction with millions of people. It drives the right wing far eighties crazy and that's even more hilarious than trump driving the left wing wackos. The whole election is comical and provides endless entertainment. And yes all the 5th grade teachers out there are indoctrinating our kids. Lmao.

TRANSLATION: I can't refute anything the OP said, so I'll try to make fun of it, call it names, pretend it's unimportant, and basically divert the subject.

Translation: I don't care that the U.S. ranks so badly in reading, math, and science. I'm just scared of the word "socialism."

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The public educational system works well in europe and with the right taxes, regs and government = super high per capita wages for the population.

Really? Most public education in Europe ranks just about right with the US. Asian countries score higher on tests because they have homogeneous societies where education is valued.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The best thing our nation could do is copy a top 5 system from another country and demand higher standards.

Sure! Let's be like Singapore and whip the students with a cane for classroom disruption!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The US has been socialist for at least 100years and it's lead to us being the greatest country on Earth .

What's the problem ?

^^^Public education results

Name a single country that doesn't have public education within the top 30. You can't simply because private education favors the few at the top.

You don't take care of those results by throwing most of the country out on the street.

I've seen private schools vs public schools....it's not even close, private schools shellac public.

Ah, the oft-repeated lie that sticks around because private schools get to to select their students and kick out those not making the grade!