Q:How badly is govt-sponsored education failing? A: A significant number are voting for a socialist!

[ScienceRocks]

OP- ...and half the GOP still think (ALWAYS democratic and capitalist) socialism is COMMUNISM. Dingbat ignorant dupes...

Government has been funding educational institutions and college for the 11th century. Loseterians have nothing besides their greed.

THE LAST STATE TO NATIONALIZE EDUCATION WAS INDIANA - 1914.

Talking about European colleges.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Bernie Sanders is a self avowed Socialist and he is running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton for your party's nomination. How long are you people going to keep denying the "S" word?

I'm not denying it. I'm saying it's impossible to talk sense to people who conflate it with "commies and Nazis and everything bad that ever happened EVAH," oh my.

As usual, this person is trying desperately to avoid discussing the main point of the thread: The oft-demonstrated fact that destruction of private property rights (one of the hallmarks of socialism) leads to the deterioration of prosperity and eventually the destruction of the society nearly every time.

 

[francoHFW]

Just when you think Public Education doesn't work the kids just suprise...

Lets me make this real fucking clear....

America has plenty of Social Programs and thus is a Social Democratic Country.

Actually compared to other social democratic countries in europe you might be a small bit less Socialist but far less Democratic(considering poor representation choice, finance election rules, lobbyist power, Supreme Court power....)
Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government Spending/GDP
US i41%

Yup, we already ARE a socialist country (they call it social democracy so as to not scare stupid Americans), just dominated by greedy GOP billionaires, their greedy idiot policy, and their bs propaganda machine.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The best thing our nation could do is copy a top 5 system from another country and demand higher standards.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Just when you think Public Education doesn't work the kids just suprise...

Lets me make this real fucking clear....

America has plenty of Social Programs and thus is a Social Democratic Country.

Actually compared to other social democratic countries in europe you might be a small bit less Socialist but far less Democratic(considering poor representation choice, finance election rules, lobbyist power, Supreme Court power....)
Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government Spending/GDP
US i41%

The problem in our country is we have loserterians instead of sane reform thinking people. What this does is make sure our system gets worse while the nutz only think about profit in the damn private sector.

they have no say

the people you support have almost all the say

so education sucks b/c of people you support

 

[Iceweasel]

Just when you think Public Education doesn't work the kids just suprise...

Lets me make this real fucking clear....

America has plenty of Social Programs and thus is a Social Democratic Country.

Actually compared to other social democratic countries in europe you might be a small bit less Socialist but far less Democratic(considering poor representation choice, finance election rules, lobbyist power, Supreme Court power....)
Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government Spending/GDP
US i41%

Socialism and democracy are like oil and water, you've been duped. Socialism requires government oversight by design. It can't be run any other way. If the means of production haven't been taken over by the state it's still a capitalist system, but it can be severely handicapped with too much regulating. What happens is the regulators are politicians and don't really know what the fuck they're doing.

 

[Iceweasel]

The best thing our nation could do is copy a top 5 system from another country and demand higher standards.

We had higher standards until the libs thought they could do a better job.

 

[CowboyTed]

Ah, another "OMG, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 'SOCIALISM' MEANS BUT IT SCARES ME!" thread.

It must be Tuesday.

Bernie Sanders is a self avowed Socialist and he is running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton for your party's nomination. How long are you people going to keep denying the "S" word?

I'm not denying it. I'm saying it's impossible to talk sense to people who conflate it with "commies and Nazis and everything bad that ever happened EVAH," oh my.

Except no one said that. It is a knee jerk reaction on your part. Capitalism made us great and people are not seeing positive results moving left. Wages are stagnant and everyone I know thinks government is out of control.

Except the facts are to the contrary... Look up a bit of actual history and please stop using opinion as Fact...

The problem with the RWers is the Education System failed them so they thing it fails everyone else.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Just when you think Public Education doesn't work the kids just suprise...

Lets me make this real fucking clear....

America has plenty of Social Programs and thus is a Social Democratic Country.

Actually compared to other social democratic countries in europe you might be a small bit less Socialist but far less Democratic(considering poor representation choice, finance election rules, lobbyist power, Supreme Court power....)
Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government Spending/GDP
US i41%

Yup, we already ARE a socialist country (they call it social democracy so as to not scare stupid Americans), just dominated by greedy GOP billionaires, their greedy idiot policy, and their bs propaganda machine.

what's greedier;

wanting to keep what you earned and not share
or
wanting what you have not earned and demand the government give it to you. Which means the government will have to take from someone else by force

 

[Contumacious]

Ah, another "OMG, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 'SOCIALISM' MEANS BUT IT SCARES ME!" thread.

It must be Tuesday.

Bernie Sanders is a self avowed Socialist and he is running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton for your party's nomination. How long are you people going to keep denying the "S" word?

I'm not denying it. I'm saying it's impossible to talk sense to people who conflate it with "commies and Nazis and everything bad that ever happened EVAH," oh my.

Except no one said that. It is a knee jerk reaction on your part. Capitalism made us great and people are not seeing positive results moving left. Wages are stagnant and everyone I know thinks government is out of control.

Except the facts are to the contrary... Look up a bit of actual history and please stop using opinion as Fact...

The problem with the RWers is the Education System failed them so they thing it fails everyone else.

LISTEN STUPID FUCK, MERELY BECAUSE YOU ARE FINALLY GOING TO ELECT AN AVOWED SOCIALIST DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SYSTEM IS A SUCCESS, WE ARE REGRESSING


A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.


–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)

.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Look at the leftist on this thread

They are gleefully stating that we are a socialist country.

Not a free country, but a country living under tyrants.


proof that our school system failed

 

[Iceweasel]

Ah, another "OMG, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 'SOCIALISM' MEANS BUT IT SCARES ME!" thread.

It must be Tuesday.

Bernie Sanders is a self avowed Socialist and he is running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton for your party's nomination. How long are you people going to keep denying the "S" word?

I'm not denying it. I'm saying it's impossible to talk sense to people who conflate it with "commies and Nazis and everything bad that ever happened EVAH," oh my.

Except no one said that. It is a knee jerk reaction on your part. Capitalism made us great and people are not seeing positive results moving left. Wages are stagnant and everyone I know thinks government is out of control.

Except the facts are to the contrary... Look up a bit of actual history and please stop using opinion as Fact...

The problem with the RWers is the Education System failed them so they thing it fails everyone else.

That was nothing but a popcorn fart. No substance there. The fact is that wages are stagnant and we haven't exactly moved to the right. 1+1=2.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Yup, we already ARE a socialist country (they call it social democracy so as to not scare stupid Americans), just dominated by greedy GOP billionaires, their greedy idiot policy, and their bs propaganda machine.

As usual, this person is trying desperately to avoid discussing the main point of the thread: The oft-demonstrated fact that destruction of private property rights (one of the hallmarks of socialism) leads to the deterioration of prosperity and eventually the destruction of the society nearly every time.

And that increasing numbers of Americans are ignorant of these results, that they have reached the point that they are voting for an admitted socialist.

 

[Arianrhod]

The oft-demonstrated fact that destruction of private property rights (one of the hallmarks of socialism) leads to the deterioration of prosperity and eventually the destruction of the society nearly every time.

"Oft-demonstrated"? Not in this thread. Start.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I don't hear of any conservative candidates running to end public education.

WHEN IT COMES TO CENTRALIZING POWER IN DC THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SO CALLED CONSERVATIVES AND ITS "LIBERAL" COUNTERPARTS

ONE WAS TO RULE US IN THE NAME OF THE VATERLAND THE OTHER IN THE NAME OF A GOD.

A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.


–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)


.

How many countries have compulsory government education that are NOT totalitarian?

 

[Timmy]

The US has been socialist for at least 100years and it's lead to us being the greatest country on Earth .

What's the problem ?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yup, we already ARE a socialist country (they call it social democracy so as to not scare stupid Americans), just dominated by greedy GOP billionaires, their greedy idiot policy, and their bs propaganda machine.

As usual, this person is trying desperately to avoid discussing the main point of the thread: The oft-demonstrated fact that destruction of private property rights (one of the hallmarks of socialism) leads to the deterioration of prosperity and eventually the destruction of the society nearly every time.

And that increasing numbers of Americans are ignorant of these results, that they have reached the point that they are voting for an admitted socialist.

From socialist Vermont? A state with one of the best educated populations in the country?

 

[ScienceRocks]

The US has been socialist for at least 100years and it's lead to us being the greatest country on Earth .

What's the problem ?[/QUOT]

The problem is the rich want the robber baron like set up and to hell with everyone else. I don't see any up side with what the loserterians are attempting.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The US has been socialist for at least 100years and it's lead to us being the greatest country on Earth .

What's the problem ?

^^^Public education results

 

[Mac1958]

Not really tough to see why this is.

Sanders: "I want to do this"
GOP: "AAAUUUGGGHHH! THAT'S SOCIALIST! THAT'S SOCIALIST!"
Some voters: "Well, think that idea is okay".

Sanders: "I want to do this"
GOP: "AAAUUUGGGHHH! THAT'S SOCIALIST! THAT'S SOCIALIST!"
Some voters: "Well, think that idea is okay".

Sanders: "I want to do this"
GOP: "AAAUUUGGGHHH! THAT'S SOCIALIST! THAT'S SOCIALIST!"
Some voters: "Well, think that idea is okay".

Some voters: "Hmm. If those ideas are socialist, then maybe socialism isn't as bad as I've heard."

The GOP may be hurting themselves here. Maybe they should just provide the electorate with a clear, positive, inspiring vision of the future of the country instead of just screaming "AAAUUUGGGHHH! THAT'S SOCIALIST! THAT'S SOCIALIST!"
.