Question for those pushing a "living wage"

[zeke]

You have the obligation to be constantly looking for better opportunities. No decent person would ever begrudge you that.

Nobody hires you expecting you to leave right away. They invest the training in you expecting you to stay long enough to get a return on that investment.

Also I hope you guys realize it is not always easy for somebody completely overqualified to get these poor paying jobs. If you apply for a job making drastically less than you used to they assume you'll be looking for a higher paying job and not hire you. They don't want to invest in training just to have you leave right away.

Not skullpilot, He has many many employees and he don't mind hiring a few part timers that he enjoys training so they can leave and he can start over trying to find another low wage employee working two or three low wage jobs.

Right skull? No waste in hiring a part timer just to see them leave in a couple months. I am surprised that every employer doesn't require their part time people to have more than one part time job.

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody hires you expecting you to leave right away. They invest the training in you expecting you to stay long enough to get a return on that investment.

Also I hope you guys realize it is not always easy for somebody completely overqualified to get these poor paying jobs. If you apply for a job making drastically less than you used to they assume you'll be looking for a higher paying job and not hire you. They don't want to invest in training just to have you leave right away.

Not skullpilot, He has many many employees and he don't mind hiring a few part timers that he enjoys training so they can leave and he can start over trying to find another low wage employee working two or three low wage jobs.

Right skull? No waste in hiring a part timer just to see them leave in a couple months. I am surprised that every employer doesn't require their part time people to have more than one part time job.

Very true

Employers are so supportive of their employees who have jobs elsewhere and are unable to support them when they demand employees work late or on weekends on moments notice

Oh...you have another job? Too bad for me

 

[Skull Pilot]

Conservative ideal for poor Americans

Yeah when was that picture taken?

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

No it doesn't obviously because "poor" people in this country do not suffer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Nobody hires you expecting you to leave right away. They invest the training in you expecting you to stay long enough to get a return on that investment.

Also I hope you guys realize it is not always easy for somebody completely overqualified to get these poor paying jobs. If you apply for a job making drastically less than you used to they assume you'll be looking for a higher paying job and not hire you. They don't want to invest in training just to have you leave right away.

Not skullpilot, He has many many employees and he don't mind hiring a few part timers that he enjoys training so they can leave and he can start over trying to find another low wage employee working two or three low wage jobs.

Right skull? No waste in hiring a part timer just to see them leave in a couple months. I am surprised that every employer doesn't require their part time people to have more than one part time job.

You're even more of an idiot than I thought.

Of course I've hired people who have left after a short time. It's called life.

Did it piss me off? Sure a little but in the long run it's really not that big of a deal.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Also I hope you guys realize it is not always easy for somebody completely overqualified to get these poor paying jobs. If you apply for a job making drastically less than you used to they assume you'll be looking for a higher paying job and not hire you. They don't want to invest in training just to have you leave right away.

Not skullpilot, He has many many employees and he don't mind hiring a few part timers that he enjoys training so they can leave and he can start over trying to find another low wage employee working two or three low wage jobs.

Right skull? No waste in hiring a part timer just to see them leave in a couple months. I am surprised that every employer doesn't require their part time people to have more than one part time job.

Very true

Employers are so supportive of their employees who have jobs elsewhere and are unable to support them when they demand employees work late or on weekends on moments notice

Oh...you have another job? Too bad for me

Spoken as only one who has never run a business can.

I have part time people with absolutely no flexibility but they always show up when scheduled.

Again it's called life.

You idiots just sound stupider by the minute.

 

[RKMBrown]

Conservative ideal for poor Americans

Yeah when was that picture taken?

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

 

[Spoonman]

You make an interesting point

But as a follow up. If your employee doesn't earn enough to support himself, should the taxpayer make up the difference?

Should an employer have the taxpayers support his employees just so that he can profit off of substandard wages?

If you're working you should not get taxpayer subsidies.

I agree......you should make enough to support yourself

first you should pay attention in school so you have the skills to earn enough to support yourself

 

[Mr Natural]

Yeah when was that picture taken?

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

Yeah, it looks like they're on a nice family camping trip.

Doesn't mom look thrilled?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yeah when was that picture taken?

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

I've seen celebs on Lifestyles of the rich and famous using a stick as a roof support before. He could be on to something

 

[Spoonman]

Don't ya just hate it?

They are poor for a reason. If they don't suffer, everyone will want to be poor

You and I have different definitions of suffering.

Conservative ideal for poor Americans

liberals ideal for poor Americans

 

[Truthmatters]

Yeah when was that picture taken?

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

you don't seem to know much about American history

 

[kwc57]

In another thread someone claimed that people have a right to be paid enough to support a family. I'd like to hear input from others on this.



Does a person with a paper route have the right to be paid enough to support a family?

Should a grocery bagger get paid enough to support a family?

What is the lowest level of job where you think the employers should be required to pay their employees enough to support a family? And how large of a family should this job be able to support?

If my brother quit his computer job and went to work as a Wal-Mart stocker, should he be able to expect Wal-Mart to pay him enough to support his six children?

In the 50's a person working at a bagel shop made enough to purchase a home, 2 cars and put 2 children through college on that income.

Something has changed folks and it's not work ethic.



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Yeahhhh.......I'm going to call bullshit on that and ask you to prove your claim. A bagel shop OWNER probably could have, but the folks working for him not so much.

 

[Amelia]

lol ... and the hijack has begun!

 

[The T]

Aw cripes...who let that thing out of it's cage?

Buh-bye thread.

 

[RKMBrown]

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

Yeah, it looks like they're on a nice family camping trip.

Doesn't mom look thrilled?

Can't tell anything from that photo other than they look pretty healthy.

Like this one of Obama's brother next to his shack:

The big difference is the photo of the lady with her kids is very old and irrelevant, but a much better photo taken by a much better photographer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Does it matter?

It represents the lifestyle that Conservatives desire for our poor. Of course everyone knows that unless the poor suffer, they will not want to get jobs

Nice looking family. Why do you assume they are poor? Cause they look healthy?

Yeah, it looks like they're on a nice family camping trip.

Doesn't mom look thrilled?

I don't know but you should see some of the faces my mother made on the one family camping trip she went on with us. She made the woman in these pictures look like the definition of happy

 

[MarcATL]

Except there is not enough full time, decent paying jobs to go around, is there?

Then work several part time jobs

We are talking 30 million poor people not one poor person

There are not 30 million part time jobs out there

This is what these rancid far RW bastards don't seem to understand.

They keep talking about these mythical part time jobs out there.

 

[MarcATL]

Then work several part time jobs

We are talking 30 million poor people not one poor person

There are not 30 million part time jobs out there

Even the longest journey starts with a single step.

WTF does that even mean!?!??

 

[rightwinger]

We are talking 30 million poor people not one poor person

There are not 30 million part time jobs out there

Even the longest journey starts with a single step.

WTF does that even mean!?!??

I think he is conceding the need for a living wage. That is a good first step out of poverty

 

[RKMBrown]

Even the longest journey starts with a single step.

WTF does that even mean!?!??

I think he is conceding the need for a living wage. That is a good first step out of poverty

It's not as hard a step as the libs make it out to be. Only takes a few moments of time for most folks.