Recording of trump pressuring Wayne County repubs not to certify 2020 election surfaces.

[martybegan]

Creating fake electors is breaking the lawy, marty.

Certifying them would be breaking the law, maybe.

Creating them or discussing creating them is not.

 

[Marener]

I am fixing on the cheating Dems are suspected of doing in 2020.

Just say it was corrupt and let Republicans handle the rest.

You assholes should hear yourselves.

 

[Marener]

There's no laws broken in what they did.

Other than fraud.

That’s what we call it when someone attempts to vote without have the legal authority to do so.

 

[martybegan]

Just say it was corrupt and let Republicans handle the rest.

You assholes should hear yourselves.

No, it wasn't corrupt. You keep using that word because you like the sound of it, without applying any meaning other than "I don't like what X did"

 

[martybegan]

Other than fraud.

That’s what we call it when someone attempts to vote without have the legal authority to do so.

Did any of the so called "false electors" actually place a vote?

 

[Marener]

Did any of the so called "false electors" actually place a vote?

Their fraudulent certificate says they did.

 

[Marener]

No, it wasn't corrupt. You keep using that word because you like the sound of it, without applying any meaning other than "I don't like what X did"

Ignorant dope.

Trump to DOJ last December: 'Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me' | CNN Politics

Trump pressured top Justice Dept. officials to falsely declare the election "illegal" and "corrupt" despite finding no evidence of widespread voter fraud

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[martybegan]

Their fraudulent certificate says they did.

What certificates?

What vote did they fraudulently place that was a registered or approved of vote?

 

[Marener]

What certificates?

What vote did they fraudulently place that was a registered or approved of vote?

Are you under the impression that it’s only voter fraud if the vote is counted?

 

[martybegan]

Are you under the impression that it’s only voter fraud if the vote is counted?

Isn't that the line crossed in any form of fraud? There has to be a fraudulent act

Waving around a fake ballot and not casting it doesn't cross the line.

 

[Marener]

Isn't that the line crossed in any form of fraud? There has to be a fraudulent act

Waving around a fake ballot and not casting it doesn't cross the line.

Nope. There has to be an act in furtherance of the fraud.

Submitting a fake ballot is fraud even if the election workers catch the fake ballot and discard it.

The fake electors submitted their fraudulent votes.

 

[martybegan]

Nope. There has to be an act in furtherance of the fraud.

Submitting a fake ballot is fraud even if the election workers catch the fake ballot and discard it.

The fake electors submitted their fraudulent votes.

When did they do that, and if it was part of the legislative process, are you saying anyone who votes no on a bill that passes is now guilty of fraud?

How were they allowed to vote in the first place?

 

[Marener]

When did they do that, and if it was part of the legislative process, are you saying anyone who votes no on a bill that passes is now guilty of fraud?

How were they allowed to vote in the first place?

They submitted the fake certificate to Congress and to the Archives in December. They tried to get Pence to bring them up in the certification.

That’s an act in furtherance of fraud.

They were not electors and had no right to vote in the electoral college. So what do you call it when someone tries to votes without the legal ability to do so?

 

[martybegan]

They submitted the fake certificate to Congress and to the Archives in December. They tried to get Pence to bring them up in the certification.

That’s an act in furtherance of fraud.

Except if they though the official electors were selected via fraud. Part of the process.

 

[Marener]

Except if they though the official electors were selected via fraud. Part of the process.

Submitting fake electoral votes is not part of the process. You don’t get to pretend to be elected to office and exercise the authority of that office because you think you won the election.

Being delusional is not permission to engage in fraud.

 

[martybegan]

Submitting fake electoral votes is not part of the process. You don’t get to pretend to be elected to office and exercise the authority of that office because you think you won the election.

Being delusional is not permission to engage in fraud.

You say fake, they say correct due to potential fraud.

Which is why this is a political matter, and not a criminal one despite Dem lawfare attempts.

 

[Marener]

You say fake, they say correct due to potential fraud.

Which is why this is a political matter, and not a criminal one despite Dem lawfare attempts.

They don’t have the legal authority to say they’re the correct electors.

Again, being delusional is not a legal defense.

 

[martybegan]

They don’t have the legal authority to say they’re the correct electors.

Again, being delusional is not a legal defense.

That's up to the certifying board. Unless the so called false electors lied about what they were trying to do, no fraud occurred.

 

[Marener]

That's up to the certifying board. Unless the so called false electors lied about what they were trying to do, no fraud occurred.

No one certified the fake electors. They lied when they said they were the electors.

That’s fraud.

 

[martybegan]

No one certified the fake electors. They lied when they said they were the electors.

That’s fraud.

Did they say they were the electors selected via the ballot?