Recycling Coal plants

[Decus]

The research link you posted was produced by ABB, a company that sells battery storage solutions for the grid so it is understandable that they would want to claim that other types of energy storage solutions aren't desirable.

If you have a source that shows H2 doesn't have much less energy for the same volume, post it up. I could probably find an old chemistry textbook. Would that work, or are they anti-hydrogen also?

The push for large scale hydrogen storage has already been launched in the US, Europe and other countries worldwide:

Throw enough government dollars at an issue, people will do a lot of senseless things.

Now try to understand the significance of 84.8 petawatt hours (PWh) of hydrogen storage only in Europe - WORLDWIDE energy demands for 2020 were about 24 petawatt hours (PWh).

You want to generate multiples of annual worldwide power demand, and use it to store hydrogen underground? What are we going to use for power while you're doing that?

I gave you articles that cited hydrogen storage in gigawatt and petawatt hours of electricity production and your argument is that stored hydrogen energy has less energy...seriously?

Your other argument is that Europe would have too much storage capacity for hydrogen? Huh? What?.....

Hydrogen is obviously a better energy storage solution than battery or thermal and the vast majority of the investment is coming from private enterprise.:

"EBH2’s proprietary low-cost electrolysis technology can produce green hydrogen “from virtually any water source including salt water.”"

"Italian gas transmission operator Snam and the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) signed a partnership agreement aimed at developing green hydrogen globally. “Snam will contribute by leveraging on its expertise and best practices in transporting energy across its over 40,000 km of pipelines as well as on its role as a member of the Green Hydrogen Catapult initiative, aimed at accelerating the scale of green hydrogen 50-fold in the next five years,”"

"Missouri-based engineering company Emerson and New Mexico-headquartered chemical reactor company BayoTech announced on Thursday a multi-year framework agreement to accelerate the production and distribution of hydrogen."

"Arizona-based zero-emission vehicle company Nikola and New York's Opal Fuels, which focuses on renewable fueling infrastructure for heavy-duty truck fleets, entered into a memorandum of understanding on the development, construction, and operation of hydrogen fueling stations in North America and the use of renewable natural gas (RNG) in hydrogen production."

"French automotive supplier Plastic Omnium and French train manufacturer Alstom signed a memorandum of understanding to develop high-end hydrogen storage systems for the railway sector."

"Ardian, a French private investment house, and FiveT Hydrogen, a clean-hydrogen enabling investment platform, announced a partnership to create Hy24, an equally owned joint venture."

The Hydrogen Stream: Electrolysis tech that can produce hydrogen from virtually any water source including salt water

A Swiss-Canadian consortium is developing a novel process to produce green hydrogen. Furthermore, Italy's Snam is cooperating with IRENA and a French consortium wants to deploy high-end hydrogen storage systems for the railway sector.

www.pv-magazine.com

These are just a few of the recent hydrogen initiatives being led by private enterprise and corporations.

.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I gave you articles that cited hydrogen storage in gigawatt and petawatt hours of electricity production and your argument is that stored hydrogen energy has less energy...seriously?

Your other argument is that Europe would have too much storage capacity for hydrogen? Huh? What?.....

Hydrogen is obviously a better energy storage solution than battery or thermal and the vast majority of the investment is coming from private enterprise.:

"EBH2’s proprietary low-cost electrolysis technology can produce green hydrogen “from virtually any water source including salt water.”"

"Italian gas transmission operator Snam and the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) signed a partnership agreement aimed at developing green hydrogen globally. “Snam will contribute by leveraging on its expertise and best practices in transporting energy across its over 40,000 km of pipelines as well as on its role as a member of the Green Hydrogen Catapult initiative, aimed at accelerating the scale of green hydrogen 50-fold in the next five years,”"

"Missouri-based engineering company Emerson and New Mexico-headquartered chemical reactor company BayoTech announced on Thursday a multi-year framework agreement to accelerate the production and distribution of hydrogen."

"Arizona-based zero-emission vehicle company Nikola and New York's Opal Fuels, which focuses on renewable fueling infrastructure for heavy-duty truck fleets, entered into a memorandum of understanding on the development, construction, and operation of hydrogen fueling stations in North America and the use of renewable natural gas (RNG) in hydrogen production."

"French automotive supplier Plastic Omnium and French train manufacturer Alstom signed a memorandum of understanding to develop high-end hydrogen storage systems for the railway sector."

"Ardian, a French private investment house, and FiveT Hydrogen, a clean-hydrogen enabling investment platform, announced a partnership to create Hy24, an equally owned joint venture."

The Hydrogen Stream: Electrolysis tech that can produce hydrogen from virtually any water source including salt water

A Swiss-Canadian consortium is developing a novel process to produce green hydrogen. Furthermore, Italy's Snam is cooperating with IRENA and a French consortium wants to deploy high-end hydrogen storage systems for the railway sector.

www.pv-magazine.com

These are just a few of the recent hydrogen initiatives being led by private enterprise and corporations.

.

I gave you articles that cited hydrogen storage in gigawatt and petawatt hours of electricity production and your argument is that stored hydrogen energy has less energy...seriously?

I said it had much less energy and was harder to store way before you posted that link. Seriously.

Your other argument is that Europe would have too much storage capacity for hydrogen?

Unless Europe has some secret extra power source that they aren't using, who cares how large their caves are?

Hydrogen is obviously a better energy storage solution than battery or thermal

Why is that obvious?

These are just a few of the recent hydrogen initiatives being led by private enterprise and corporations.

Smells like tax dollars going up in flames.