Reid Changing Filibuster Rules

[Unkotare]

You don't love America.

Fuck you, asshole. YOU are the one who has consistently expressed un-American views all over this site. You ignorant, worthless douche.

 

[Unkotare]

If you loved America you'd be very concerned about why we oppose Obama.

Who's "we" douche? Just who do you think you speak for?

 

[The T]

They're giving the Senate Majority Leader no choice.

Sen. Reid: Calling for Senate to use nuclear option for judicial nominationsVoices | Voices

In the last three weeks alone, Republicans have blocked up-or-down votes on three highly qualified nominees to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, considered by many to be the second highest court in the land. Republicans have blocked four of President Obama’s five nominees to the D.C. Circuit, whereas Democrats approved four of President Bush’s six nominees to this important court. Today, 25 percent of the D.C. Circuit Court is vacant. There isn’t a single legitimate objection to the qualifications of any of these nominees. Yet Republicans refused to give them an up-or-down vote – a simple yes-or-no vote. Republicans simply don’t want President Obama to make any appointments at all to this vital court.

Further, only 23 district court nominees have been filibustered in the entire history of this country. Twenty of them were nominated by President Obama. With one out of every 10 federal judgeships vacant, millions of Americans who rely on courts that are overworked and understaffed are being denied the justice they rightly deserve. More than half the nation’s population lives in a part of the country that’s been declared a “judicial emergency.”

uh huh, you know why the filibustered those 3 nominees for the DC circuit? becasue obama is trying to 'pack it'....there are no vacancies on the court, they are not overloaded or overworked. he wants to add 4 total to tilt it Democratic against the even splits its at ideologically now.

Precisely. Reid broke the rules, broke agreements. It will haunt him and those that voted for it. They have nowhere to hide.

 

[The T]

can anyone really blame him for the "party of no" (hint- the party that couldn't win the Presidency or the senate ) simply blocking anything that moves for the past 4+ yrs? Sen. Reid is a statesman & a scholar

Reid threatens to go nuclear on filibuster reform | MSNBC

“I’m considering looking at the rules,” the Nevada Democrat told reporters on Tuesday. “The American people are sick of this. In the name of simple fairness, any president, not just President Obama, Democrat or Republican, needs to be able to have the team that he wants in place,” Reid added.

Reid’s threat comes as Senate Republicans blocked – for the third time in three weeks—Obama’s pick, Robert Wilkins, to be a judge on the powerful D.C. Court of Appeals. Reid had a solid majority, but due to GOP’s exploitation of the Senate’s arcane rules, Democrats still fell six votes short of ending debate on Wilkins’ nomination.

Party on NO? Really Gracie? How many House Bills are stacked on his desk? Care to take a stab at it?

 

[Unkotare]

They're giving the Senate Majority Leader no choice.

Sen. Reid: Calling for Senate to use nuclear option for judicial nominationsVoices | Voices

uh huh, you know why the filibustered those 3 nominees for the DC circuit? becasue obama is trying to 'pack it'....there are no vacancies on the court, they are not overloaded or overworked. he wants to add 4 total to tilt it Democratic against the even splits its at ideologically now.

Precisely. Reid broke the rules, broke agreements. It will haunt him and those that voted for it. They have nowhere to hide.

What's really strange is that the wrinkled old turd would do this to future democrat senators for the sake of an obama administration that is already circling the drain. At his age he can't hope to live long enough to enjoy some good ol' Chicago payback.

 

[Trajan]

our "democracy" was always about more than a simple numbers, a majority vote, thats why we have a republic, if a simple majority can change any rule on any issue whenever it wishes too, its just the will of the moment, its chaos. Forget deliberation, compromise or consensus, it dead becasue theres no need for it.

 

[Amelia]

U.S. Senate goes 'nuclear,' changes filibuster rules

What a relief.

Obama applauds filibuster changes

Well past-due.

All the Senate has done is return responsibility to the voters, as opposed to a given minority in the Senate; and it’s difficult to find fault with a legislative body that functions in accordance with the doctrine of simple majority rule, allowing a president to compose his administration as he sees fit, at the behest of a majority of the people who voted for that president.

It’s also difficult to find fault with the notion that the voters should be compelled to realize the consequences of whom they vote for – both with regard to the presidency and the Senate.

The consequences of whom they vote for?

The voters voted on a balance of representatives within the context of traditions which included the filibuster. They had reason to expect certain consequences from that, which the senate Democrats have now upended. People who voted for Reid voted for someone who promised that as long as he was leader, the nuclear option would not be employed.

The majority power was obligated to make a strong enough case to bring sufficient members of the minority on board. When Democrats have been unable to do that they've chosen to play tricks and change the rules.

In 2009 when the people spoke and sent a Republican to fill the Kennedy seat in the Senate, Democrats who didn't respect the voice of the people chose "reconciliation".

And now that Democrats are losing their hold on power as citizens express disgust at the results of past overreach and dishonesty on Democrats' part, Democrats change the rules of the game again.

 

[Trajan]

 

[The T]

uh huh, you know why the filibustered those 3 nominees for the DC circuit? becasue obama is trying to 'pack it'....there are no vacancies on the court, they are not overloaded or overworked. he wants to add 4 total to tilt it Democratic against the even splits its at ideologically now.

Precisely. Reid broke the rules, broke agreements. It will haunt him and those that voted for it. They have nowhere to hide.

What's really strange is that the wrinkled old turd would do this to future democrat senators for the sake of an obama administration that is already circling the drain. At his age he can't hope to live long enough to enjoy some good ol' Chicago payback.

Dingy Harry will be up for Re-election in 2016...Hopefully by then he will be minority leader.

 

[The T]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfvgnXzDQ

I remember that. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Contumacious]

Well if that's the case......let's end all filibusters right now

Yeah man , the precedent is there. Ape Lincoln REFUSED to let duly elected Southern congressmen enter the Capitol.

Let history repeat itself.

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Source on the Lincoln claim?

The ten States were organized into Military Districts under the unconstitutional "Reconstruction Acts," their lawfully constituted Legislatures illegally were removed by "military force," and they were replaced by rump, so-called Legislatures, seven of which carried out military orders and pretended to ratify the 14th Amendment, as follows:

Arkansas on April 6, 1868; [Cite 38]
North Carolina on July 2, 1868; [Cite 39]
Florida on June 9, 1868; [Cite 40]
Louisiana on July 9, 1868; [Cite 41]
South Carolina on July 9, 1868; [Cite 42]
Alabama on July 13, 1868; [Cite 43]
Georgia on July 21, 1868. [Cite 44]


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[Trajan]

U.S. Senate goes 'nuclear,' changes filibuster rules

What a relief.

Obama applauds filibuster changes

Well past-due.

All the Senate has done is return responsibility to the voters, as opposed to a given minority in the Senate; and it’s difficult to find fault with a legislative body that functions in accordance with the doctrine of simple majority rule, allowing a president to compose his administration as he sees fit, at the behest of a majority of the people who voted for that president.

It’s also difficult to find fault with the notion that the voters should be compelled to realize the consequences of whom they vote for – both with regard to the presidency and the Senate.

what a load of hooey. the majority of the moment now rules, they also abrogated the rules in place ON senate rules procedures......but hey, its just a rule, we'll rule to break the rule on rules....yea, some Republic .......

 

[Unkotare]

our "democracy" was always about more than a simple numbers, a majority vote, thats why we have a republic, if a simple majority can change any rule on any issue whenever it wishes too, its just the will of the moment, its chaos. Forget deliberation, compromise or consensus, it dead becasue theres no need for it.

The Senate in particular was intended to be a more cautious, deliberative body and thus exert a moderating effect on the governing process. The passions of the moment are more the purview of the House.

 

[The T]

our "democracy" was always about more than a simple numbers, a majority vote, thats why we have a republic, if a simple majority can change any rule on any issue whenever it wishes too, its just the will of the moment, its chaos. Forget deliberation, compromise or consensus, it dead becasue theres no need for it.

The Senate in particular was intended to be a more cautious, deliberative body and thus exert a moderating effect on the governing process. The passions of the moment are more the purview of the House.

And interesting that the progressives under Wilson crafted the 17th...about time that was repealed.

 

[Unkotare]

Precisely. Reid broke the rules, broke agreements. It will haunt him and those that voted for it. They have nowhere to hide.

What's really strange is that the wrinkled old turd would do this to future democrat senators for the sake of an obama administration that is already circling the drain. At his age he can't hope to live long enough to enjoy some good ol' Chicago payback.

Dingy Harry will be up for Re-election in 2016...Hopefully by then he will be minority leader.

Chances are good that by then he'll be fertilizing a field somewhere. He's not a young fella.

 

[The T]

U.S. Senate goes 'nuclear,' changes filibuster rules

What a relief.

Obama applauds filibuster changes

Well past-due.

All the Senate has done is return responsibility to the voters, as opposed to a given minority in the Senate; and it’s difficult to find fault with a legislative body that functions in accordance with the doctrine of simple majority rule, allowing a president to compose his administration as he sees fit, at the behest of a majority of the people who voted for that president.

It’s also difficult to find fault with the notion that the voters should be compelled to realize the consequences of whom they vote for – both with regard to the presidency and the Senate.

So then you too are for the repeal of the 17th seeing the voters aren't responsible?

Mull it over sport. I know I just zoomed over your pointy head.

 

[The T]

What's really strange is that the wrinkled old turd would do this to future democrat senators for the sake of an obama administration that is already circling the drain. At his age he can't hope to live long enough to enjoy some good ol' Chicago payback.

Dingy Harry will be up for Re-election in 2016...Hopefully by then he will be minority leader.

Chances are good that by then he'll be fertilizing a field somewhere. He's not a young fella.

Actually? Any plot his body occupies will be dull, and where nothing will ever grow.

 

[Dot Com]

The only people you have to blame are Senate Repubs. They've held the senate hostage for 4+ years even after the people rebuked them for a 2nd time in the past election. Repubs have painted themselves into such an extremist corner that ANY working w/ the oppositon is considered treason on Fox & Friends or SeanRush. Spare us the crocodile tears

 

[Geaux4it]

I have always thought the way filibustering was done the last ten years was certainly unethical if not illegal. Good for Reid, and good for the Pubs when we take back the Senate.

your lack of knowledge as it pertains to the make-up of our government and why the rules are as they are (were) is uncanny....Filibustering is essential. Obama is wrong. It is exactly what the founders wanted.

What an idiot. Anybody can filibuster; they can't tie up legislation forever now.

We rule by legislative majority, son, not by the negative minority.

Grow up.

We have checks and balances. At least, thats the way its suppose to work. But not under a dictator.

-Geaux

 

[mudwhistle]

The only people you have to blame are Senate Repubs. Thjey've held the senate hostage for 4+ years even after the people repuked them for a 2nd time in the past election.

Yeah, those poor minorities are running roughshod in the Senate. They almost made Reid put a budget to a vote during the shutdown.