RELEASED: Schiff Democratic rebuttal memo released after FBI redactions

[PoliticalChic]

Even without reading it,you know all it says is the first memo is all a GOP lie

No it doesn’t. It just expands the information cherry picked by Nunes Memo and includes information which shows how Nunes manipulated these facts. It’s an interesting read.

But you have to read it both Memos and make your own conclusions. We both know that’s not going to happen.

But what is telling here is that so many left leaning posters have actually read the Schiff Memo, bit so far no one of our rapid right wingers has admitted to reading either Memo. Not very bright of you.

So how about you show how Nunes 'manipulated' these facts....


1.The Hillary campaign paid for an anti-Trump Russian creation called the dossier: they used law firm Perkins Coie to funnel money to GPS Fusion and Christopher Steele


2. The Hillary campaign screamed that they had been hacked, but refused to allow any government agencies to inspect the supposedly hacked servers

3. The FBI admitted that they knew the dossier was fake from the start, but used it to get a FISA warrant to surveil Trump and associates

4. A secret cabal at the highest levels of the FBI and the DoJ worked with GPS Fusion to undermine the Trump campaign...before and after the election.

5. FBI found classified data on Huma and Anthony Weiner’s laptop….so they gave them a pass

6. The FBI decided no charges against Hillary before they interviewed her…..with no record kept of the interview, and not under oath.

7. Both Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were found to be lying to the FBI….but given a pass ...and allowed to keep their laptops, and destroy any evidence on same

8. FBI agents Strzok and Page and McCabe talked over a plan to overturn the election….an ‘insurance policy’

9. Loretta Lynch with Comey’s acquiescence, worked to benefit Hillary’s campaign

10. Obama knew about Hillary’s use of unsecured emails, as he conversed with her on same…kept his name out of the reports.

11. BTW…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.

....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....


12. The FBI offered to pay Christopher Steele if he could corroborate the dossier….so he told Yahoo New’s Michael Isikoff about the dossier, had him print the information….then told the FBI that Isikoff independently discovered the “facts”…

Steele admitted, in a British court, that he leaked the material to Yahoo. September 23 Yahoo ran the story.

The FBI took the Isikoff Yahoo story to the FISA court to get the warrant….then fired Steele for sharing it with news outlets.:

13. After the FBI fired Steele, he continued to confer with Bruce Ohr and the DoJ…and Rod Rosestein and Sally Yates.

In September of 2016, this was Steele’s statement to Bruce Ohr that he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”


14. Fired by the FBI as untrustworthy, Steele is maintained by the DoJ as a contact, and all the while, Bruce Ohr’s wife is drawing a salary from the group Hillary hired to produce the dossier….GPS Fusion.

Bruce Ohr’s wife’s connections to Hillary’s paid dossier-producers, GPS Fusion, was never disclosed to the FISA court.

15. Not Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, nor the DNC, nor Christopher Steel, nor Fusion GPS, nor Bruce Ohr’s wife, the roles of none of these participants in the creation of the dossier….not a one was revealed to the FISA court.


16. Let’s compare the zealous and very aggressive action by Mueller against Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Carter Page with the immunity and passes given above…..

…and lots of evidence of associations of Democrats with the Kremlin….

…completely different treatment.

17. And all of the players in on the fix were demanding the Memo not be released….and lied about why it should not be released.

Silly liberals frothing about "manipulating facts" facts are not manipulatable they present and speak for themselves

Sure looks like the Nunes Memo is game-set-match.

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. "As the Majority’s memorandum stated, the FISA judge was never informed that Hillary Clinton and the DNC funded the dossier that was a basis for the Department of Justice’s FISA application," Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

13. "In addition, the [Democrat] memo fails to even address the fact that the Deputy FBI Director told the Committee that had it not been for the dossier, no surveillance order would have been sought," she added.

14. Democrats have claimed that the original Republican memo was an effort to attack FBI Director Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged Russian interference in 2016. Trump had previously said that the memo "totally vindicates" him in the investigation.” Dems' rebuttal to GOP FISA memo is released; Trump deems it a 'bust'

Turns out, Trump is correct........again.

 

[WEATHER53]

Dirty bums colluding with Russians while accusing us of same. Hillarys dangerously obsessive need to rule would have harmed us all

 

[PoliticalChic]

Dirty bums colluding with Russians while accusing us of same. Hillarys dangerously obsessive need to rule would have harmed us all

As the saying goes, 'To know what the Left is doing, just note what they claim about the other side.'

 

[DOTR]

said that the Nunes memo was a danger to national security he lied.

Gotcha! Let's review:

1) Anyone who does not affirm your politics and superstitions is a liar.

.......and that's about it.

To recap

Me:Why did Schiff lie about the Nunes memo being a national security threat?
Fort Fun Indiana..that was the Trump appointed FBI director i dare you to call him a liar!
Me: OK he is a liar.
Fort fun indiana: anyone who doesnt agree with you is a liar!



The Nunes memo was no threat to national security. Schiff lied. Or was gullible enough to fall for a liar's tale. And you fell for it being as gullible.
If it isn't a lie then show us which part f the Nunes memo was a danger to national security.

 

[hadit]

I guess this means all those who were screeching that Trump would never release the democrat pile are, to be polite, completely out in left field.

 

[TheDude]

How did you come to the conclusion Flynn is going to jail?

I came to the conclusion that it is likely. How? Sentencing delays and protracted negotiations.

But why? Why is Flynn going to jail?

 

[Manonthestreet]

BTW Schiiff admitted he was one of the leakers today.....looking like his days are numbered too

 

[Billy_Bob]

BTW Schiiff admitted he was one of the leakers today.....looking like his days are numbered too

I think he is trying to stave off being prosecuted by admitting it on live TV... Trying to blunt the sting that is coming for him. I hope they jerk his security clearances below that of janitor tomorrow... Dumb ass..

 

[Billy_Bob]

How did you come to the conclusion Flynn is going to jail?

I came to the conclusion that it is likely. How? Sentencing delays and protracted negotiations.

But why? Why is Flynn going to jail?

LOL

Prosecutorial misconduct is under investigation and the Judge has ordered full information release to his attorneys.. I doubt he will see any jail time... Strozk and his clan however are in serious jeopardy of going to jail now.. Withholding escopitory evidence is not going to end well for them

 

[DOTR]

BTW Schiiff admitted he was one of the leakers today.....looking like his days are numbered too

((( Schiff))) has been known to leak sensitive information to the press for decades. He once passed info to the press during a closed hearing by meeting in the mens room. If he really wanted his own "memo" released he would simply have leaked it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

said that the Nunes memo was a danger to national security he lied.

Gotcha! Let's review:

1) Anyone who does not affirm your politics and superstitions is a liar.

.......and that's about it.

Democrat brain dead following points.... Do as we tell you...

Is that even English?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

said that the Nunes memo was a danger to national security he lied.

Gotcha! Let's review:

1) Anyone who does not affirm your politics and superstitions is a liar.

.......and that's about it.

To recap

Me:Why did Schiff lie about the Nunes memo being a national security threat?
Fort Fun Indiana..that was the Trump appointed FBI director i dare you to call him a liar!
Me: OK he is a liar.
Fort fun indiana: anyone who doesnt agree with you is a liar!



The Nunes memo was no threat to national security. Schiff lied. Or was gullible enough to fall for a liar's tale. And you fell for it being as gullible.
If it isn't a lie then show us which part f the Nunes memo was a danger to national security.

But you have not made any actual argument. You have only repeated authoritative declarations. So the appropriate refutation is "nuh uh". Maybe come up with something better?

 

[Zorro!]

4. The new memo also asserted that the dossier had been corroborated by multiple sources.

Funny,

Both the FBI and DOJ have stated there is no cooberating evidence... No other evidence was used to obtain the FISA warrants..

Sooooo who is lying? Democrats or the Agencies?

You are. Comey’s testimony was that “parts of the Dossier were unverified” because at the time of his testimony, they had just received it and were still working to verify it. Since that time more of the allegations have been confirmed, including its basic claim that the Russians were conducting a well funded long term campaign of propaganda and misinformation to get Trump elected.

Only obvious points were verified and those were know years ago. The dossier, according to the FBI was used as the PRIMARY SOURCE for the FISA warrants.. SO who is lyin? The FBI and McCabe or you democrats?

Another lie debunked.

The Dossier was NOT the primary source of information in the application. Only one small part of it was used. This claim is utterly false and has been thoroughly debunked...

Speaking of utterly false and thoroughly debunked:


BOMBSHELL: Horowitz Admits FISA Warrants to Spy on Carter Page Based “Entirely” on Information From Phony Steele Dossier

...

Furthermore, the warrant was subsequently renewed and applications reviewed by four different judges appointed by Republican Presidents....

The President does not appoint FISA judges.

... New and relevant information proving the value of the information obtained had to have been contained in the renewal applications...

Actually new and relevant information is confirming the near worst case scenario.

... The more you learn about this warrant, the more obvious it is that the intent of the Nunes Memo was to mislead the public.

Actually, it's the Dems "rebuttal" that is proving to just more disinformation from the Deep State.

Horowitz confirmed what Congressman Nunes stated in his FISA memo that he released nearly 2 years ago — the FISA warrants used to spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page was based “ENTIRELY” on information from the phony, Hillary-funded Steele dossier.

Nunes 2-page FISA memo revealed that Hillary’s phony Russia dossier that was compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele played an essential part of the Carter Page FISA applications.

McCabe also testified that if not for the phony, Hillary-funded Russia dossier, the FBI would never have sought the FISA warrants on Carter Page.

Nunes was widely mocked by the media and Democrats following the release of his FISA memo but he was right all along.

Schiff even tried to refute Nunes with his own counter-memo, but as usual, Schiff was once again proven to be a liar.

 

[Zorro!]

(CNN) President Donald Trump on Saturday agreed to release a redacted version of a Democratic memo that seeks to undercut Republican claims of FBI surveillance abuses.

The House Intelligence Committee released the Democratic memo after the White House signed off following negotiations between the FBI and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff of California, over what in the document should be redacted.

White House agrees to release Schiff memo with redactions - CNN

CNN is currently showing a copy of the memo on TV. CNN reported that the memo shows that FISA was not used to spy on Trump or his campaign.

Read the full Democratic response to the Nunes memo below (10 pages):

MEMO

So where's the fucking collusion?

Every Democrat clown from L.A. to D.C. including shithead was saying this was going to prove Trump was colluding with the Russians.

Please quote where anyone said the Democratic Rebuttal Memo would prove Trump was colluding with the Russians. That's what Mueller is working on. That memo was intended to prove that Nunes was lying.

Nunes was lying? Are you sure?

So who was lying in the dueling memos, Schiff or Nunes?

Dueling House Intelligence Committee memos, one by Adam Schiff and one by Devin Nunes, that were released in early 2018, in light of the DOJ Inspector General’s report. The IG Report Confirms Schiff FISA Memo Media Praised Was Riddled With Lies. Let's recall what Schiff claimed in the committee majority’s memo:

1. FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.​

2. The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”​

3. In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.​

4. The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”​

5. “Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”​

6. The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.​

7. Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”​

The IG report has determined that All of these statements were false. They are lies.

Conversely, the Nunes memo turned out to be correct. But that isn’t how it was reported at the time:

The Fake News media joined Department of Justice bureaucrats in bitterly opposing the release of the Nunes memo. The Justice Department released a letter to the press saying the action was “extraordinarily reckless,”would be “damaging” to “national security,” and would risk “damage to our intelligence community or the important work it does in safeguarding the American people.”​

Then, when the report was released, the media made a variety of contradictory claims, all of them downplaying or dismissing the memo as nothing whatsoever. “Why Were The Democrats So Worried About The Nunes Memo?” asked The New Yorker. Rachel Madcow said that, far from destroying national security, instead the memo delivered “a sad trombone for Trump.” “It’s a joke and a sham,” claimed Washington Post writers.​

“The memo purports to show that the process by which the FBI and Justice Department obtained approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to conduct surveillance on former Trump adviser Carter Page was deeply tainted,” the Post article says. “It does this by straining every which way to suggest that the basis for the warrant was the so-called ‘Steele dossier,’ which contains Democratic-funded research by former British spy Christopher Steele.” (The IG confirmed this week that the efforts to secure a warrant to spy on Page were dropped due to lack of evidence until Steele delivered his memos.)​

On the other hand, Salon called the memo “fake news.” New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait, who fervently believes that Trump is a traitor who colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election, all evidence to the contrary, went even further. “The Nunes Memo Is Fake and the Russia Scandal Is Very Real,” he claimed. …​

CNN had their good buddy James Crapper, an Obama intelligence chief, say that the memo was a “blatant political act.” John Brennan, Obama’s CIA chief who was also implicated in the spying on the Trump campaign, told Politico that the memo was “exceptionally partisan.” Politico claimed the memo “makes no sense.”​

The litany goes on and on.

One wonders how many reporters and editors will apologize for falling for Schiff’s lies and smearing Devin Nunes, or even acknowledge the fact that their 2018 reporting was grotesquely wrong.

 

[hadit]

(CNN) President Donald Trump on Saturday agreed to release a redacted version of a Democratic memo that seeks to undercut Republican claims of FBI surveillance abuses.

The House Intelligence Committee released the Democratic memo after the White House signed off following negotiations between the FBI and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff of California, over what in the document should be redacted.

White House agrees to release Schiff memo with redactions - CNN

CNN is currently showing a copy of the memo on TV. CNN reported that the memo shows that FISA was not used to spy on Trump or his campaign.

Read the full Democratic response to the Nunes memo below (10 pages):

MEMO

So where's the fucking collusion?

Every Democrat clown from L.A. to D.C. including shithead was saying this was going to prove Trump was colluding with the Russians.

Please quote where anyone said the Democratic Rebuttal Memo would prove Trump was colluding with the Russians. That's what Mueller is working on. That memo was intended to prove that Nunes was lying.

Nunes was lying? Are you sure?

So who was lying in the dueling memos, Schiff or Nunes?

Dueling House Intelligence Committee memos, one by Adam Schiff and one by Devin Nunes, that were released in early 2018, in light of the DOJ Inspector General’s report. The IG Report Confirms Schiff FISA Memo Media Praised Was Riddled With Lies. Let's recall what Schiff claimed in the committee majority’s memo:

1. FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.​

2. The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”​

3. In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.​

4. The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”​

5. “Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”​

6. The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.​

7. Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”​

The IG report has determined that All of these statements were false. They are lies.

Conversely, the Nunes memo turned out to be correct. But that isn’t how it was reported at the time:

The Fake News media joined Department of Justice bureaucrats in bitterly opposing the release of the Nunes memo. The Justice Department released a letter to the press saying the action was “extraordinarily reckless,”would be “damaging” to “national security,” and would risk “damage to our intelligence community or the important work it does in safeguarding the American people.”​

Then, when the report was released, the media made a variety of contradictory claims, all of them downplaying or dismissing the memo as nothing whatsoever. “Why Were The Democrats So Worried About The Nunes Memo?” asked The New Yorker. Rachel Madcow said that, far from destroying national security, instead the memo delivered “a sad trombone for Trump.” “It’s a joke and a sham,” claimed Washington Post writers.​

“The memo purports to show that the process by which the FBI and Justice Department obtained approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to conduct surveillance on former Trump adviser Carter Page was deeply tainted,” the Post article says. “It does this by straining every which way to suggest that the basis for the warrant was the so-called ‘Steele dossier,’ which contains Democratic-funded research by former British spy Christopher Steele.” (The IG confirmed this week that the efforts to secure a warrant to spy on Page were dropped due to lack of evidence until Steele delivered his memos.)​

On the other hand, Salon called the memo “fake news.” New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait, who fervently believes that Trump is a traitor who colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election, all evidence to the contrary, went even further. “The Nunes Memo Is Fake and the Russia Scandal Is Very Real,” he claimed. …​

CNN had their good buddy James Crapper, an Obama intelligence chief, say that the memo was a “blatant political act.” John Brennan, Obama’s CIA chief who was also implicated in the spying on the Trump campaign, told Politico that the memo was “exceptionally partisan.” Politico claimed the memo “makes no sense.”​

The litany goes on and on.

One wonders how many reporters and editors will apologize for falling for Schiff’s lies and smearing Devin Nunes, or even acknowledge the fact that their 2018 reporting was grotesquely wrong.

You never acknowledge error when you're pushing a narrative.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But why? Why is Flynn going to jail?

That's typically what happens to felons.