Report: Level of poverty growing

We had a safety net...my husband was laid off for 3 years, we have no safety net anymore. What's worse, during those 3 years it took me more than a year to find a job, it never took me that long before in my life. I used to be able to go out and get a job the first day I tried. THAT job went to India, I can't imagine how bad it would be trying to find a job today.

I'm sorry you went through that. I had a similar awful time after the dotcom crash. Fortunately, we had saved diligently and had a good rainy day fund.

The only real remedy is economic growth that creates private sector jobs. It's very instructive that the current administration's policies have resulted in a Net Decrease in private sector employment.
 
2006 you say? That would be about the time that the Dems took control of the House and Senate.

Nope. 2006 is when the housing bubble was really beginning to burst. Had nothing to do with the dems that had just come into majority. And who had control the first 6 years? Complete and total control... Do you remember?
The republicans never had "complete and total control". They never had a filibuster proof Senate.
 
Your bs has got to be the worse I've ever seen posted. FREEDOM doesn't put food on the table or a roof over your head or keep you healthy enough to go out and look for work!

Freedom and the concept of personal responsibility for one's own well being is not BS... but your attitude showing that you believe it is BS is very telling

Nobody is supposed to put food on your table but you
2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

Unlike what you whiny leftist entitlement junkies think... the only one responsible for you is YOU

The man is working, he's just not getting paid enough to put the food on the table...hence we need an increase in the minimum wage.

And you do realize that raising minimum wage increases unemployment, right??

You do realize to that you are the one responsible for advancing your skills to demand more compensation?? And that even the most incapable fool can earn more than minimum wage with time served in a fast food job... Even morons get shift supervisor positions in McDonalds
 
Your bs has got to be the worse I've ever seen posted. FREEDOM doesn't put food on the table or a roof over your head or keep you healthy enough to go out and look for work!

Freedom and the concept of personal responsibility for one's own well being is not BS... but your attitude showing that you believe it is BS is very telling

Nobody is supposed to put food on your table but you
2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

Unlike what you whiny leftist entitlement junkies think... the only one responsible for you is YOU

I think you're the last person who should be quoting The Bible. How about quoting Jesus himself whose "liberalism" is precisely the same as being discussed here.

Waiting for the quotes from Jesus about government forced redistribution and not voluntarily giving of one's self
 
Such crap. With an arrogant, denigrating and insulting attitude like yours, I can just bet you voluntarily support charities. :lol: Someone like you would much prefer to prance around some soup kitchen and preach to the homeless. "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME"!!!

I support a local charity that provides training to mentally handicapped people so that they can obtain a job to support themselves, and they also help find roommates to share expenses
I support various medical charities close to my heart such as St. Jude's and ADA
I support a batter women's shelter that helps the women and their children get back on their feet after such a traumatic experience

When I have volunteered time with my kids... I certainly do not preach.... but I don't buy every 'woe is me' bullshit story and the claim by so many that they 'need' something... many confuse 'needy' with 'wanty' because many simply choose not to do what they have to do and would rather take the handout

I'm sorry, but I have an extremely difficult time believing you support and/or volunteer in any of those areas. You simply do not have the compassion required to be sincere, and most people in such need can usually spot a phony a mile away.

Yeah... having a political opinion that differs from you inherently means that one is not compassionate and one cannot support charity... :rolleyes:

I'll give you a hint too... forced redistribution is not YOU being compassionate.... but you seem to like being generous with the money of others
 
For those who care about truth/reality. the number of poor has been increasing for at least a decade.
So has the artificial "poverty line".


It's rather telling that the Poor in America are often overweight, have big screen TVs, refrigerators, indoor plumbing...while the poor in less capitalist countries live in straw or cardboard huts, eat sporadically at best, and/or are starving to death.

Case in point: North Korea. The serfs are so malnourished that the average height has decreased under communist rule.
 
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I have my doubts you even now the true meaning of the word "freedom." In this country, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is an indoctrinated FREEDOM on its face. That some people are unable, for a number of reasons to be as fortunate as someone like you (some of which are spelled out for you here) is well, a fact of life.

Yes... ANYONE can claw their way out of a bad situation. ANYONE can be a success... it is your filthy ilk that keeps proclaiming that certain classes of people are helpless, YOU know what is best for them, and that only your mantra will save them from themselves

Only a very few people are truly unable.... and those generally are either wards of the state or committed by family...

You also seem to like to contribute success stories as 'lucky' or 'fortunate'... showing your smug liberal attitude.... because unless people are like you, it is luck that anything good happens... unless they have it handed to them, it is luck... well, I know the hard work and dedication it takes to move up from poverty... I know what it takes to make it in the military... I know that anyone has the freedom to do whatever that have to do or wants to do to pursue happiness and success, and nobody is held back from that freedom... it is you that is delusional thinking that 'the rich' or 'the man' can hold anyone down

You are truly a sick and twisted individual that may indeed be too far gone to be brought back from your programing

There's that "compassion" shining right through. I rest my case on that point, robotman.

Just because some people like me happen to loudly disagree with your staunch position on poverty hardly makes us "filthy" or "twisted" and "programmed."

And yet you still continue to be the one, along with your leftist buddies, that love to proclaim classes of people helpless or incapable
 
Something else to chew on

Not everyone will make it but anyone can make it
NO, "everyone" can not.

The government does not exist to protect against your personal failure
And they don't now.

Freedom comes with positives and negatives and that is still ultimately more desirable than some phony baloney system supposedly based on equalizing the outcome at the expense of freedom

I have my doubts you even now the true meaning of the word "freedom." In this country, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is an indoctrinated FREEDOM on its face. That some people are unable, for a number of reasons to be as fortunate as someone like you (some of which are spelled out for you here) is well, a fact of life.

Yes... ANYONE can claw their way out of a bad situation. ANYONE can be a success... it is your filthy ilk that keeps proclaiming that certain classes of people are helpless, YOU know what is best for them, and that only your mantra will save them from themselves

Only a very few people are truly unable.... and those generally are either wards of the state or committed by family...

You also seem to like to contribute success stories as 'lucky' or 'fortunate'... showing your smug liberal attitude.... because unless people are like you, it is luck that anything good happens... unless they have it handed to them, it is luck... well, I know the hard work and dedication it takes to move up from poverty... I know what it takes to make it in the military... I know that anyone has the freedom to do whatever that have to do or wants to do to pursue happiness and success, and nobody is held back from that freedom... it is you that is delusional thinking that 'the rich' or 'the man' can hold anyone down

You are truly a sick and twisted individual that may indeed be too far gone to be brought back from your programing

Deserves repeating
 
Freedom and the concept of personal responsibility for one's own well being is not BS... but your attitude showing that you believe it is BS is very telling

Nobody is supposed to put food on your table but you
2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

Unlike what you whiny leftist entitlement junkies think... the only one responsible for you is YOU

The man is working, he's just not getting paid enough to put the food on the table...hence we need an increase in the minimum wage.

And you do realize that raising minimum wage increases unemployment, right??

You do realize to that you are the one responsible for advancing your skills to demand more compensation?? And that even the most incapable fool can earn more than minimum wage with time served in a fast food job... Even morons get shift supervisor positions in McDonalds

I've already posted a link that shows there has been no net loss of jobs the last several times the minimum wage was raised. It also showed that the majority of those making minimum wage are adults, not teenagers.

The truth is that we had a much better economy when the wealthy paid more taxes and minimum wage had more spending power.
 
For those who care about truth/reality. the number of poor has been increasing for at least a decade.
So has the artificial "poverty line".


It's rather telling that the Poor in America are often overweight, have big screen TVs, refrigerators, indoor plumbing...while the poor in less capitalist countries live in straw or cardboard huts, eat sporadically at best, and/or are starving to death.

Case in point: North Korea. The serfs are so malnourished that the average height has decreased under communist rule.

The number of homeless in our own country has increased. And while some of the poor have big screen tvs, not all of them do. I know someone that got one 2nd hand and it was so bad they had to get rid of it but couldn't afford the dump fee. Some idiot rich or middle class person decided to avoid paying the dump fee themselves by giving it to those less fortunate than themselves. Kind of them, wasn't it?

As for being overweight, starch is cheap, lean meats and fresh vegetables are expensive and not everyone can do a garden. I've tried, this will be my 3rd year and each time so far it's cost me more than I've saved.

I know a guy that flew clear across the country for a job, only to be laid off a few months later. It took him two years before he found a charity willing to pay for his ticket home, in the meantime he lived in a storage shed, did odd jobs and got food from various churches.

Oh, and btw, our height is going down too.
 
2006 you say? That would be about the time that the Dems took control of the House and Senate.

Nope. 2006 is when the housing bubble was really beginning to burst. Had nothing to do with the dems that had just come into majority. And who had control the first 6 years? Complete and total control... Do you remember?

Oh nuts, and i believed Bawney Fwanks and Maxine Waters, shame on me ........:eusa_whistle:
 
The number of homeless in our own country has increased. And while some of the poor have big screen tvs, not all of them do. I know someone that got one 2nd hand and it was so bad they had to get rid of it but couldn't afford the dump fee. Some idiot rich or middle class person decided to avoid paying the dump fee themselves by giving it to those less fortunate than themselves. Kind of them, wasn't it?

As for being overweight, starch is cheap, lean meats and fresh vegetables are expensive and not everyone can do a garden. I've tried, this will be my 3rd year and each time so far it's cost me more than I've saved.

I know a guy that flew clear across the country for a job, only to be laid off a few months later. It took him two years before he found a charity willing to pay for his ticket home, in the meantime he lived in a storage shed, did odd jobs and got food from various churches.

Oh, and btw, our height is going down too.


We don't live in a Utopia.

You can pick the uncertainty of freedom or the certainty of totalitarian misery. That's about it. Those of us who prefer the former have an optimistic view of humanity - we believe individuals will be more successful in determining their own lives than having a state apparatus decide for them. The problems you point out in our country exist in others that are less free on a much more massive scale.

There is a little saying: Perfection Should Not Be The Enemy Of The Good.

Chew on that.
 
The republicans never had "complete and total control". They never had a filibuster proof Senate.

No, they used the veto instead courtesy of dumbass shrub. Can you please point out this "dangerous and disastrous" legislation that the dems actually got passed under bush (intentional he does not deserve a capitalized first name) that you are referring to?

Presidential Vetos - Bills Vetoed by President George W. Bush (2001-2008)

Damn, you cons have short-assed memories.
 
And yet you still continue to be the one, along with your leftist buddies, that love to proclaim classes of people helpless or incapable

only the lefty's are classists?

hmmm.......
 
Yeah, it is the left that is of the idea that the poor are like stray animals and if you feed their children a reduced price or free lunch at school, they will breed. Or that they're poor because they're lazy and make bad decisions. Oh wait, it isn't.

The right wing only cares about the rich getting richer, and that's pretty classist, I would say...
 
Sheer nonsense. Those of us who are Anti Big Government believe that the poor are competent enough to manage their own lives if not brainwashed with government dependency.

Its the Lefties that want to keep them on a Virtual Plantation of Poverty - mostly illiterate and much easier to herd to voting booths with their list of "approved" selections.
 
Those of us who are Anti Big Government believe that the poor are competent enough to manage their own lives if not brainwashed with government dependency.

Oh yeah? How's that working so far? We have literally no safety net for the working poor. If you are an able male who loses his job, runs out of unemployment and becomes homeless, can you get on welfare? The answer is no. Also, I believe the time limit for being on welfare is 5 years (varies by state but that is the limit). It's not like you can LIVE on welfare indefinitely. The only people who are allowed on welfare are mothers with children. Jobs are disappearing. There are not enough jobs for everyone to "take care of themselves" and many of the jobs that are available do not pay anything near a living wage. What, exactly, do you expect these people to do?

Why do you cons want this country to turn into a bonafide third world nation? I just don't understand it.
 

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