Report: Obama Knew a Year Before ACA Became Law Millions Would Lose Insurance

[BlindBoo]

Either most people are stupid or I am smarter than most, but I knew Obama was a fucking liar the first time I saw him.

Name a president who isn't or wasn't.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

No, theyre not. They are policies that people are paying for out of pocket. Now O is kicking them aside.

 

[BlindBoo]

I was about to give you some positive rep points then you had to blow it with your Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Besides, I refuse to rep anybody who wants Saddam back in power. Which you do.

How about Hitler? Want him back, too?

Stalin? Oh, hell yes. We ALL know you want him back.

Pol Pot? To you, Pol Pot was a left-leaning moderate.

I wanna be here when Castro dies so I can watch you break down into tears.

How about Mao? I'm sure you loved him. Just like Peter Lewis, the dimocrap billionaire who owns Progressive Insurance.

You dimocraps are all the same.... Dictator-worshiping dirtbags.

Maybe someday you can build an altar in your back yard to Saddam.

Blow your fucking legs off, leave them in Iraq and then read the headlines today, asshole:


Car bombs kill scores in Baghdad, in sign of crisis in Iraq

IRBIL, Iraq — Nearly two years after the U.S. troop withdrawal, Iraq is in the midst of a deepening security crisis as an al-Qaeda affiliate wages a relentless campaign of attacks, sending the death toll soaring to its highest level since 2008.
Car bombs kill scores in Iraq, in sign of growing strength of al-Qaeda affiliate ISIS - The Washington Post


You're the deranged one.

So you really DO want Saddam back in power?

Figures

BTW, I have a CIB -- And there's only one way to get one of those.

Don't even try to lecture me on the costs of War, bitch

If I could trade the lives of the men and women we lost over there and the lives of Iraqis lost for Saddam being back in power, I would.

 

[bendog]

These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

No, theyre not. They are policies that people are paying for out of pocket. Now O is kicking them aside.

The dems premise is people need to be told what to have. Thus, we have the controversey of contraception. We actually solved that problem years ago by using planned parenthood to distribute low cost pills to low income women ... WHO WANT them. The dems' premise runs up against people w/o health benefits purchase what they can afford balanced against what they need, and generally get more or less catastrophic care. And the reality is the dems' tried to predict what insurance companies would charge for more comprehensive poliicies. And, as we know, they can't even copy Amazon's web site.

The more conservative approach would be to use tax credits to allow individuals access to preventive care.

 

[BlindBoo]

I was about to give you some positive rep points then you had to blow it with your Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Besides, I refuse to rep anybody who wants Saddam back in power. Which you do.

How about Hitler? Want him back, too?

Stalin? Oh, hell yes. We ALL know you want him back.

Pol Pot? To you, Pol Pot was a left-leaning moderate.

I wanna be here when Castro dies so I can watch you break down into tears.

How about Mao? I'm sure you loved him. Just like Peter Lewis, the dimocrap billionaire who owns Progressive Insurance.

You dimocraps are all the same.... Dictator-worshiping dirtbags.

Maybe someday you can build an altar in your back yard to Saddam.

Blow your fucking legs off, leave them in Iraq and then read the headlines today, asshole:


Car bombs kill scores in Baghdad, in sign of crisis in Iraq

IRBIL, Iraq — Nearly two years after the U.S. troop withdrawal, Iraq is in the midst of a deepening security crisis as an al-Qaeda affiliate wages a relentless campaign of attacks, sending the death toll soaring to its highest level since 2008.
Car bombs kill scores in Iraq, in sign of growing strength of al-Qaeda affiliate ISIS - The Washington Post


You're the deranged one.

Ask yourself why are the bombings taking place. Why did Bush have to stick around to clean up the mess but Obama leaves behind an even bigger mess and remains blameless.

Here's a clue: Ethnic and religious cleansing. Look it up.

The seeds of this ongoing Civil war in Iraq were sown within 6 months of the occupation.

 

[Antares]

I'd say the Republican House has failed in the eyes of the American people. They are so low in the polls, they may not be seen again despite the Gerrymandering.

But with every day the people are realizing that Obama is worthless, just like his socialist healthcare Fubar. Stand -by, good times ahead as the people set their phones down for a minute and look up, King Odummer is toast..... What a loser

-Geaux

No. What they're seeing is you Teapartiers/Cons resisting and lying about ACA. You, as usual, continue to whine and attempt to make America see things your way but they won't.

Again.

Are you purposefully ignorant?

Nobody is lying about anything, and Prez Cracka lied...this comes out last year and Obama is not the Prez today.

 

[mudwhistle]

Funny thing is, all of the ACA plans are even worse because of the price and the massive deductibles.

well, they are worse for YOU.

but they are better for insurance companies - and the benefit of those is what obamacare is all about.

you did not believe the lie that is is about helping the uninsured to get insurance, did you?

Anyone who believes what Obama has said is retarded.

Whoops.........sorry.........retard is banned.......fucken stupid as a stump.

 

[mudwhistle]

Either most people are stupid or I am smarter than most, but I knew Obama was a fucking liar the first time I saw him.

Name a president who isn't or wasn't.

Washington

Lincoln

Need I go on?

 

[BlindBoo]

No, the President did not tell the truth about grandfathering healthcare plans.

To deny that is comparable to denying that Bush lied us into Iraq.

The major difference is Bush believed what the entire free world intelligence community was telling him as well as many leading Democrats.

Obama just plain lied in order to get reelected.

By the entire free world you mean the British (who knew the intel was being fixed).

German Foreign Minister: CIA Knew 'Curveball's' WMD Intel Was Questionable : The Two-Way : NPR

Germans accuse US over Iraq weapons claim | World news | The Guardian

"German officials said that they had warned American colleagues well before the Iraq war that Curveball's information was not credible - but the warning was ignored"

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB254/doc10.pdf

President Bush lied and was lied to by his top aids.

 

[WelfareQueen]

These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

Affordable plans............

Bottom line is this....

obama is a lying scumbag piece of shit.

As are all dimocraps.

ALL of them.

Tired of hearing it?

Tough shit.

What kind of dishonest piece of shit defends a proven lie? Simple. A proven liar.

No matter how you slice it, obama lied.

The talking points about how those 'plans' aren't any good?

What a load of absolute shit.

If I have a $500,000 Ferrari, how much do you think Collision and Comprehensive coverage would cost with a $250 Deductible? Just a guess..... I'd say around $5000 a year. Maybe more.

Out of control. You'd have to have an accident every six months to break even.

Instead, I would choose a $10,000 deductible and cut my premiums by $4,000 a year.

If I can afford a $500,000 Ferrari, I can goddam sure afford to take a $10,000 hit on my deductible.

A similar principle applies to Individual Health Insurance.

The people who have these plans that are being cancelled, or non-renewed, aren't the kind of people who spend a lot of time in a Doctor's Office. They go in twice a year (tops) for a checkup and some blood work and they're done.

All they want is something that will prevent them from going bankrupt. A $10,000 hit won't bankrupt them.

If the spam hits the fan, they can take $10k on the chin and continue to march.

No big deal. In fact, it's the kind of policy I prefer. It's the kind we were looking for when/if my wife retires.

We just want something that will prevent Medical Bills from taking everything we own. We can eat $10k or even $20k out of pocket without it crippling us financially.

We're willing to take the chance.

But now, with lying scumbag piece of shit and his lying scumbag toadies gumming up the works, she's gonna have to pay premiums that are so high.... She can't retire.

Well..... She can but we won't have enough money after our Monthly Bills (ESPECIALLY Health Insurance) to do much.

So what's the point?

She just headed off to work. Just now.

Thanks dimocrap scum. As usual, you'd fuck up a one car funeral.

Hopefully.... Yours

You got a well deserved rep for this post. It is excellent. Just one thing to add. The reason all the extra crap is mandated in all Obamacare policies is "spreading the wealth around."

See, Obama wants 30 year old guys with money to pay for pelvic exams, mammograms, and maternity care...so the ho's in the 'hood get the shit for free.

Obama wants women with money pay for annual prostate exams they obviously don't need, so his voting base gets shit for free. It is all about "spreading the wealth around."

 

[mudwhistle]

Blow your fucking legs off, leave them in Iraq and then read the headlines today, asshole:


Car bombs kill scores in Baghdad, in sign of crisis in Iraq

IRBIL, Iraq — Nearly two years after the U.S. troop withdrawal, Iraq is in the midst of a deepening security crisis as an al-Qaeda affiliate wages a relentless campaign of attacks, sending the death toll soaring to its highest level since 2008.
Car bombs kill scores in Iraq, in sign of growing strength of al-Qaeda affiliate ISIS - The Washington Post


You're the deranged one.

Ask yourself why are the bombings taking place. Why did Bush have to stick around to clean up the mess but Obama leaves behind an even bigger mess and remains blameless.

Here's a clue: Ethnic and religious cleansing. Look it up.

The seeds of this ongoing Civil war in Iraq were sown within 6 months of the occupation.

Muslims will always try to put non-Muslims to the sword. They've been doing it for about 1200 years or so.

They have a lack of tolerance.

 

[WelfareQueen]

No, the President did not tell the truth about grandfathering healthcare plans.

To deny that is comparable to denying that Bush lied us into Iraq.

Well, I think you are being kind to Bush. The people who are in shell-shock over their policies being canceled are still far less in a state of pain than these folks.


There are 50,000+ of them plus 6700 dead. They were all in good shape before Bush stood on the aircraft carrier and announced "Mission Accomplished":

Personally, Obama's lie is something I can live with compared to Bush's.

Is that an Afghanistan vet wounded under Obama's surge?

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, the President did not tell the truth about grandfathering healthcare plans.

To deny that is comparable to denying that Bush lied us into Iraq.

The major difference is Bush believed what the entire free world intelligence community was telling him as well as many leading Democrats.

Obama just plain lied in order to get reelected.

Obama wasn't running for re-election when the ACA was being debated.

 

[WelfareQueen]

No, the President did not tell the truth about grandfathering healthcare plans.

To deny that is comparable to denying that Bush lied us into Iraq.

The major difference is Bush believed what the entire free world intelligence community was telling him as well as many leading Democrats.

Obama just plain lied in order to get reelected.

Obama wasn't running for re-election when the ACA was being debated.

Yes he was running for re-election when this was being debated. Obamacare is still being debated. We're debating it right now. Had the media done it's job, and the American people were aware of all the lies Obama told to get this piece of crap passed, he never would have been re-elected.

All Obama's lies are finally catching up with him.

 

[NYcarbineer]

These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

No, theyre not. They are policies that people are paying for out of pocket. Now O is kicking them aside.

In regards to the President's promise:

1. The people who are having to transition into policies that are equal to or better than the ones they have,

but are paying the same or less than they paid before, have no complaint.

2. Anyone who is being forced into less coverage for the same or more cost has a legitimate complaint. I seriously doubt any such people exist.

3. Anyone who is being forced into more expensive coverage in order to meet the new minimum standards of ACA has a legitimate complaint.

Anyone in categories 2 and 3 above should be allowed the grandfather option, however,

if insurance companies are canceling policies that could have been grandfathered, that's another matter. That should not be allowed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The major difference is Bush believed what the entire free world intelligence community was telling him as well as many leading Democrats.

Obama just plain lied in order to get reelected.

Obama wasn't running for re-election when the ACA was being debated.

Yes he was running for re-election when this was being debated. Obamacare is still being debated. We're debating it right now. Had the media done it's job, and the American people were aware of all the lies Obama told to get this piece of crap passed, he never would have been re-elected.

All Obama's lies are finally catching up with him.

Wrong. The only problem here is with a small percentage of a small percentage of the population, i.e., the small percentage of people who had individual insurance policies,

and the small percentage of those who may actually be facing higher costs in obtaining new coverage.

 

[martybegan]

Obama wasn't running for re-election when the ACA was being debated.

Yes he was running for re-election when this was being debated. Obamacare is still being debated. We're debating it right now. Had the media done it's job, and the American people were aware of all the lies Obama told to get this piece of crap passed, he never would have been re-elected.

All Obama's lies are finally catching up with him.

Wrong. The only problem here is with a small percentage of a small percentage of the population, i.e., the small percentage of people who had individual insurance policies,

and the small percentage of those who may actually be facing higher costs in obtaining new coverage.

and you really dont think the same problems will occur when the employer provided polices start coming under the regulations? Every step of this has been a clusterfuck of epic proportions, but apologists like you just keep up with the "trust us it will work eventually" mantra.

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[Antares]

No, the President did not tell the truth about grandfathering healthcare plans.

To deny that is comparable to denying that Bush lied us into Iraq.

The major difference is Bush believed what the entire free world intelligence community was telling him as well as many leading Democrats.

Obama just plain lied in order to get reelected.

Obama wasn't running for re-election when the ACA was being debated.

LOL, I have no doubt that you really aren't faking being this obtuse.
He would not be President to day if this report had come out last year, it is just that simple.
He lied to the Nation.

 

[BlindBoo]

Ask yourself why are the bombings taking place. Why did Bush have to stick around to clean up the mess but Obama leaves behind an even bigger mess and remains blameless.

Here's a clue: Ethnic and religious cleansing. Look it up.

The seeds of this ongoing Civil war in Iraq were sown within 6 months of the occupation.

Muslims will always try to put non-Muslims to the sword. They've been doing it for about 1200 years or so.

They have a lack of tolerance.

Sunnis are killing Shiites and Shiite are killing Sunnis.