Republican bill stops funding to states issuing DL's to illegals

[Hardcandy]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?

A "Drivers License" has nothing to do with "immigration" per say; but it has a great deal to do with illegal immigration.

Allowing illegal aliens to legally obtain Drivers Licenses not only legitimizes their crime, it diminishes its seriousness; which results in further escalating the crime.

I heard an interesting quote not long ago;
"When a crime is ignored it becomes rampant"
"When a crime is rewarded it becomes epidemic"

I'm pretty sure the US has reached the epidemic stage.
So thank God for Donald Trump!

That makes no sense.
What a state accomplishes by issuing driver's licenses to illegals is to ensure they are safer on the roads.
Nothing else.
They are not supposed to be any more legitimized because a state issued driver's license is not supposed to be used as an ID by anyone.
Lots of people do not even have driver's licenses.

How does issuing a license to someone who hasn’t taken a driver’s course make them a better driver?

Exactly. As a professional driver myself, I had to deal with idiots who did have a valid drivers license. A drivers license does not guarantee you have the ability to drive, it only means you passed the test which are two different things.

But if you do not test and issue US driver's licenses to immigrants, illegal or not, then they will drive anyway, and will use foreign licenses or none at all. And they would be better drivers if they were tested and bothered studying and practicing. We also want an address on file so they can be contacted if something comes up.

They won't "drive anyway" if their ass gets deported like it's suppose to be!

This ain't rocket surgery folks!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The US is required to always honor a Mexican driver's license by NAFTA.
Has nothing to do with immigration status.
And what you seem to be forgetting is that Mexicans are natives, not illegal immigrants.
To get to Mexico, they migrated down from the US.

What are you talking about? This is about illegals driving on our roads. If they have a license from their country, what good would it do to give them one here if it's so legal?

The advantage of them getting a license here is that they may not have been well tested in Mexico, or they may not be up on local state law peculiarities. You also want a local address on file so you can get a hold of them if there is a complaint or law suit.

No, what I want is to make them as miserable as possible being here. I want them hiding in sewers and scared to death of getting caught here.

We on the right are doing everything we can to stop this terrible problem, and you on the left are doing everything you can to getting more of them in this country. And yes, making it comfortable and rewarding their criminal behavior is doing just that.

Ray, will you admit that I am left of you? Just a simple yes or no will work.

Now, that we have that covered and to you I am a Leftie, how can you explain me not wanting to issued DL's to Illegal? Afterall, it's only the Right that is working so hard to prevent DL's being issued to Illegals and us Lefties that are working so hard to get all of them DL's. How about an answer to that one for a change?

WTF are you talking about? I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to Rigby.

Ask Hunt why he has me on ignore and he will run away.

 

[beagle9]

I am saying leave the control as is and get the insurance companies out of it unless it is a medical emergency and let the free markets reign like they do in plastic surgery and LASIK right now. Why is that so hard for your to understand? Durr.

Most people can't afford ELECTIVE Lasik and plastic surgery procedures... If we treated cancer like that, we'd have a lot of people DYING of cancer because they couldn't afford the Chemotherapy.

Hence it is called insurance but is should not be forced on anyone as the ACA did. If they want to risk bankruptcy then they can go without insurance. I have kids so they go to the MD on a fairly regular basis and the costs are higher due to insurance. If it were a free market it would cost a lot less IMO. But I have very good insurance so I do not care but it is very inefficient and stupid. I prefer free markets and they work great in plastic surgery and LASIK.

So once again, "I got mine, fuck you"...

That's nice. I honestly and truly hope that some day, some insurance company doesn't decide to cut you off because they want to make a profit. Because why that would be ironic and shit, it would still be bad.

NO ONE SHOULD GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY GET SICK. The thing was, 62% of bankruptcies are linked to medical crisis, and 75% of them HAD insurance when the medical crisis started.

Single Payer. Everyone is covered. If you have to sit next to a poor person while waiting to see a doctor, TOO BAD.

You speak as if there is no safety net for poor people. There will always be a safety net for the poor, so get off of your doomsday bullcrap, and quit attempting to drag all American's into the same bowl together. It don't work that way, and it should never work that way. Your socialist ideas aren't for America. Now if you got complaints about the safety nets, then work to strengthen that area up, but leave everyone else alone.

That lying Obama attempted a run at socialism or socialized medicine, but that has bombed, and it should have.

If need price controls in areas where gouging is taking place, then go for it, but leave everyone else alone. If need quality control where abuse is found, then go for it, but leave everyone else alone.

If trouble with gangs and thugs getting guns or using guns in a bad way, then go after that problem, but leave the good gun owners alone. See how that works ? Learn it, live it, know it

 

[Indeependent]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?

A "Drivers License" has nothing to do with "immigration" per say; but it has a great deal to do with illegal immigration.

Allowing illegal aliens to legally obtain Drivers Licenses not only legitimizes their crime, it diminishes its seriousness; which results in further escalating the crime.

I heard an interesting quote not long ago;
"When a crime is ignored it becomes rampant"
"When a crime is rewarded it becomes epidemic"

I'm pretty sure the US has reached the epidemic stage.
So thank God for Donald Trump!

That makes no sense.
What a state accomplishes by issuing driver's licenses to illegals is to ensure they are safer on the roads.
Nothing else.
They are not supposed to be any more legitimized because a state issued driver's license is not supposed to be used as an ID by anyone.
Lots of people do not even have driver's licenses.

Whenever I'm in a foreign country;(any foreign country) the ID most commonly requested is my passport.

But in the states(US) the most commonly requested ID is by far my drivers license, whether I'm driving or not.

How can you possibly not know this?

Besides; aren't illegal aliens suppose to be deported rather than out driving around the streets of a country they're in illegally?

You don’t have a subscription to Rigby’s Version of Reality?

 

[Hardcandy]

That makes no sense.
What a state accomplishes by issuing driver's licenses to illegals is to ensure they are safer on the roads.
Nothing else.
They are not supposed to be any more legitimized because a state issued driver's license is not supposed to be used as an ID by anyone.
Lots of people do not even have driver's licenses.

Whenever I'm in a foreign country;(any foreign country) the ID most commonly requested is my passport.

But in the states(US) the most commonly requested ID is by far my drivers license, whether I'm driving or not.

How can you possibly not know this?

Besides; aren't illegal aliens suppose to be deported rather than out driving around the streets of a country they're in illegally?

You don’t have a subscription to Rigby’s Version of Reality?

And for that I'm truly thankful...

 

[Jarlaxle]

Read, but in their own language right ?

Is that why Mexican's struggle so bad on America's road's when driving, because they don't speaka-da-english ????? Next we'll have two languages on our road signs. LOL.

Whatever it takes eh ? Yeah I can see it now - We need more money in the state budget from those hard working American taxpayers, because we got to put up traffic signs in the Spanish language all over the state now. Good grief, as if the taxes aren't overly burdensome now in America.

The drivers test is in English, so anyone getting a license needs a reasonable amount of English.
And no, traffic signs never have to be read.
They follow the international standards of a diagram or sign shape.
At most you need to just read the numbers in speed limit signs.
How much English is required to read, "No Parking" or "Yield"?

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

 

[Hardcandy]

The drivers test is in English, so anyone getting a license needs a reasonable amount of English.
And no, traffic signs never have to be read.
They follow the international standards of a diagram or sign shape.
At most you need to just read the numbers in speed limit signs.
How much English is required to read, "No Parking" or "Yield"?

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

I could actually see me taking that bet.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The drivers test is in English, so anyone getting a license needs a reasonable amount of English.
And no, traffic signs never have to be read.
They follow the international standards of a diagram or sign shape.
At most you need to just read the numbers in speed limit signs.
How much English is required to read, "No Parking" or "Yield"?

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

It's how they go about getting something they want. They want to reward illegals by giving them drivers license, using the excuse of safety. Forget the link I posted that stated ICE deported over 80,000 illegals in one year alone all with DUI offenses. Give those people licenses now.

 

[beagle9]

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

It's how they go about getting something they want. They want to reward illegals by giving them drivers license, using the excuse of safety. Forget the link I posted that stated ICE deported over 80,000 illegals in one year alone all with DUI offenses. Give those people licenses now.

I can't help it though, because I do like Mexican's. Maybe I haven't met the bad ones, but the one's I've met are humble hardworking always smiling people. We definitely need those types to be with us in America, but there is a way to do it and do it right. Legal immigration is the only way, and not upsetting the balance in our many cultures by allowing a flood of immigrants to over run our border in which is un-exceptable. We must get organized and legal in our processes, while ensuring that our own cultures thrive and prosper just as we always have. Treating people as one expects to be treated is also very important. Creating more butthurt people in America has got to end. Time to throw away the bickering partisan bullcrap for scoring political points, and get an immigration system that works.

All the while we must protect the personality, character, and the cultures that exist in America. We must hold on to who we are, and remain as great examples of who we are in the world and to the world.

Assimilation is key, and that goes for all, and especially to those who refuse to do so, and all because of hang ups that are being milked to death for political and/or personal angst through out time.

 

[rightwinger]

The drivers test is in English, so anyone getting a license needs a reasonable amount of English.
And no, traffic signs never have to be read.
They follow the international standards of a diagram or sign shape.
At most you need to just read the numbers in speed limit signs.
How much English is required to read, "No Parking" or "Yield"?

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

Having properly trained, licensed and insured drivers does not make us safer?

Did you ever move on from that short bus?

 

[Flopper]

Legal immigrants are provided the opportunity just like everyone else to obtain a drivers license.

The OP specifically called out illegal immigrants and drivers licenses. But you already knew that and simply chose to shift the topic to legal immigrants and driver’s licenses.

What does legal status have to do with driver's licenses that are supposed to be about safety?
What about a tourist who does not want citizenship, but just wants to be able to rent a car here and drive, for the years they are visiting?
Are you going to deny them a US driver's license while a legal resident because they are undocumented as far as citizenship?

Unless you’re here legally such as a travel visa, work visa, green card, etc. you do not have the right to get a drivers license. Period. End of story.

I am not sure I see how rights have anything to do with it, because the POINT is the can and will drive anyway, so issuing them a driver's license just allows us to ensure they are better and safer drivers.

If they have a driver's license, they have had some drivers education and they can buy auto insurance which benefits everyone. The GOP's attempt to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of illegal immigrants is just plain stupid.

Each State is different. Here, there is no law that says you have one second of Drivers Education. If you are over a certain age, you only have to pass a written test and a road test and Presto, Chango. Plus, you have to have Insurance to bind your license to. What idiot Insurance Company would give insurance to an illegal before they passed their DL test? In order to get that insurance, the Insured would have to lie out his ass to get it. That means, when or if he does have an accident involving you, his insurance won't pay off a dime since it was obtain fraudulently. That means, even offering the DL to an Illegal doesn't protect you any better than if they were driving with no DL or insurance.

All auto insurance that I am familiar with requires a valid US drivers license. And they do check it. A few years ago I applied for auto insurance and made a mistake on my driver's license number. They came back immediately and denied coverage. I called the company and gave them my correct drivers licence number and the problem was solved.

If allowing undocumented immigrants to have drivers licenses and it increases the number of trained and insured drivers, I'm all far. I'm OK with the goverment enforcing immigration laws but I don't see how denying drivers license will help.

 

[beagle9]

If tests are conducted in English, why is New York offering drivers manuals in any language of your origin?

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

Having properly trained, licensed and insured drivers does not make us safer?

Did you ever move on from that short bus?

You know that's not what it's about, and that's the rub. Political desperation is what it's about, and because of the bullcrap the Democrats keep pulling, well it's just causing people to suffer on and on and on.

 

[rightwinger]

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

Having properly trained, licensed and insured drivers does not make us safer?

Did you ever move on from that short bus?

You know that's not what it's about, and that's the rub. Political desperation is what it's about, and because of the bullcrap the Democrats keep pulling, well it's just causing people to suffer on and on and on.

Having a drivers license doesn’t make you a citizen

Just shows you are qualified to drive

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What does legal status have to do with driver's licenses that are supposed to be about safety?
What about a tourist who does not want citizenship, but just wants to be able to rent a car here and drive, for the years they are visiting?
Are you going to deny them a US driver's license while a legal resident because they are undocumented as far as citizenship?

Unless you’re here legally such as a travel visa, work visa, green card, etc. you do not have the right to get a drivers license. Period. End of story.

I am not sure I see how rights have anything to do with it, because the POINT is the can and will drive anyway, so issuing them a driver's license just allows us to ensure they are better and safer drivers.

If they have a driver's license, they have had some drivers education and they can buy auto insurance which benefits everyone. The GOP's attempt to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of illegal immigrants is just plain stupid.

Each State is different. Here, there is no law that says you have one second of Drivers Education. If you are over a certain age, you only have to pass a written test and a road test and Presto, Chango. Plus, you have to have Insurance to bind your license to. What idiot Insurance Company would give insurance to an illegal before they passed their DL test? In order to get that insurance, the Insured would have to lie out his ass to get it. That means, when or if he does have an accident involving you, his insurance won't pay off a dime since it was obtain fraudulently. That means, even offering the DL to an Illegal doesn't protect you any better than if they were driving with no DL or insurance.

All auto insurance that I am familiar with requires a valid US drivers license. And they do check it. A few years ago I applied for auto insurance and made a mistake on my driver's license number. They came back immediately and denied coverage. I called the company and gave them my correct drivers licence number and the problem was solved.

If allowing undocumented immigrants to have drivers licenses and it increases the number of trained and insured drivers, I'm all far. I'm OK with the goverment enforcing immigration laws but I don't see how denying drivers license will help.

The same way it helps Americans. It's a perk. It's an attraction that's added to the list of attractions Democrats provide to lure them here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

Having properly trained, licensed and insured drivers does not make us safer?

Did you ever move on from that short bus?

You know that's not what it's about, and that's the rub. Political desperation is what it's about, and because of the bullcrap the Democrats keep pulling, well it's just causing people to suffer on and on and on.

Having a drivers license doesn’t make you a citizen

Just shows you are qualified to drive

And having a license shows you are qualified to drive, and they shouldn't be qualified to drive in the US.

 

[beagle9]

What does legal status have to do with driver's licenses that are supposed to be about safety?
What about a tourist who does not want citizenship, but just wants to be able to rent a car here and drive, for the years they are visiting?
Are you going to deny them a US driver's license while a legal resident because they are undocumented as far as citizenship?

Unless you’re here legally such as a travel visa, work visa, green card, etc. you do not have the right to get a drivers license. Period. End of story.

I am not sure I see how rights have anything to do with it, because the POINT is the can and will drive anyway, so issuing them a driver's license just allows us to ensure they are better and safer drivers.

If they have a driver's license, they have had some drivers education and they can buy auto insurance which benefits everyone. The GOP's attempt to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of illegal immigrants is just plain stupid.

Each State is different. Here, there is no law that says you have one second of Drivers Education. If you are over a certain age, you only have to pass a written test and a road test and Presto, Chango. Plus, you have to have Insurance to bind your license to. What idiot Insurance Company would give insurance to an illegal before they passed their DL test? In order to get that insurance, the Insured would have to lie out his ass to get it. That means, when or if he does have an accident involving you, his insurance won't pay off a dime since it was obtain fraudulently. That means, even offering the DL to an Illegal doesn't protect you any better than if they were driving with no DL or insurance.

All auto insurance that I am familiar with requires a valid US drivers license. And they do check it. A few years ago I applied for auto insurance and made a mistake on my driver's license number. They came back immediately and denied coverage. I called the company and gave them my correct drivers licence number and the problem was solved.

If allowing undocumented immigrants to have drivers licenses and it increases the number of trained and insured drivers, I'm all far. I'm OK with the goverment enforcing immigration laws but I don't see how denying drivers license will help.

If the main reason this drivers license thing is all of a sudden an issue, and it's all because the Democrats are looking for ways to increase the vote, otherwise if somehow they can work it around into that, then it will be a bad thing. If is truly to help folks in some sort of way, then that's different. The problem is that if these people are being used for political reasons, then I think the answer should be NO for that reason.

 

[Flopper]

No, I meant they legally can and will drive on a Mexican driver's license if we do not issue.
If we do not issue them a US driver's license, then they have no local residency requirement, so their Mexican driver's license remain valid forever.

If they're illegal, their license is not legally honored in this country. That may be true for a documented person.

Tell me, what other country in the world can you break into, and the government issue you a drivers license?

Canada and Mexico for starters. Most countries do not require a Visa or proof of citizenship to get a license. Generally if you have a license in another country, you will be allowed to apply for a license.

Since your immigration status is not considered a factor in safely operating a vehicle, a visa is not generally required, however adequate documentation is and that varies with every country and often the province or state.

I couldn't find any law about illegals driving in Canada. Google can't seem to find anything on it. Maybe they don't have any illegals. I couldn't find anything about Mexico either. But here is what I did find that has me skeptical whether they are allowed to drive or not:

‐ Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens | National Review

You couldn't find any law because it is not illegal. With the exception of a few totalitarian states, license requirements are granted based on the privileges granted by the license. If being a legal resident of the country has some impact on the ability to drive a vehicle, buy a home, own a vehicle, own a dog, or operate a business then proof of legal residence should be required. To do otherwise, infringes on everyone's personal freedom. I've been in countries where you can't rent a room, buy train ticket, enter a museum, or just walk down a street without proof of your legal residency. Hopefully, we not come to that here.

It's not proof of residency we're talking about. It's about people who broke our laws by illegally entering this country or staying past their Visa expiration date, and rewarding their transgressions with a drivers license. You are making assumptions about Canada, when it likely could be the other way. Apparently it's not an issue over there; at least not enough for anybody to write about. Also, no stories of motor vehicle deaths or DUI's with illegals as is a major problem over here.

The point is that licensing drivers has no direct impact on illegal immigration nor governments ability to deport illegals. However, it does make highways a bit safer and will probably increase the number insuranced slightly.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They always have been

Many non citizens obtain drivers licenses. Your car does not know what language you speak

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

It's how they go about getting something they want. They want to reward illegals by giving them drivers license, using the excuse of safety. Forget the link I posted that stated ICE deported over 80,000 illegals in one year alone all with DUI offenses. Give those people licenses now.

I can't help it though, because I do like Mexican's. Maybe I haven't met the bad ones, but the one's I've met are humble hardworking always smiling people. We definitely need those types to be with us in America, but there is a way to do it and do it right. Legal immigration is the only way, and not upsetting the balance in our many cultures by allowing a flood of immigrants to over run our border in which is un-exceptable. We must get organized and legal in our processes, while ensuring that our own cultures thrive and prosper just as we always have. Treating people as one expects to be treated is also very important. Creating more butthurt people in America has got to end. Time to throw away the bickering partisan bullcrap for scoring political points, and get an immigration system that works.

All the while we must protect the personality, character, and the cultures that exist in America. We must hold on to who we are, and remain as great examples of who we are in the world and to the world.

Assimilation is key, and that goes for all, and especially to those who refuse to do so, and all because of hang ups that are being milked to death for political and/or personal angst through out time.

I'll have to disagree with you on this one. The US allows nearly a million people a year to join our country and become citizens. Plus we hand out 50,000 Visa's and green cards a year. No other country does more for other people outside their borders than the US. I think that's more than enough.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If they're illegal, their license is not legally honored in this country. That may be true for a documented person.

Tell me, what other country in the world can you break into, and the government issue you a drivers license?

Canada and Mexico for starters. Most countries do not require a Visa or proof of citizenship to get a license. Generally if you have a license in another country, you will be allowed to apply for a license.

Since your immigration status is not considered a factor in safely operating a vehicle, a visa is not generally required, however adequate documentation is and that varies with every country and often the province or state.

I couldn't find any law about illegals driving in Canada. Google can't seem to find anything on it. Maybe they don't have any illegals. I couldn't find anything about Mexico either. But here is what I did find that has me skeptical whether they are allowed to drive or not:

‐ Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens | National Review

You couldn't find any law because it is not illegal. With the exception of a few totalitarian states, license requirements are granted based on the privileges granted by the license. If being a legal resident of the country has some impact on the ability to drive a vehicle, buy a home, own a vehicle, own a dog, or operate a business then proof of legal residence should be required. To do otherwise, infringes on everyone's personal freedom. I've been in countries where you can't rent a room, buy train ticket, enter a museum, or just walk down a street without proof of your legal residency. Hopefully, we not come to that here.

It's not proof of residency we're talking about. It's about people who broke our laws by illegally entering this country or staying past their Visa expiration date, and rewarding their transgressions with a drivers license. You are making assumptions about Canada, when it likely could be the other way. Apparently it's not an issue over there; at least not enough for anybody to write about. Also, no stories of motor vehicle deaths or DUI's with illegals as is a major problem over here.

The point is that licensing drivers has no direct impact on illegal immigration nor governments ability to deport illegals. However, it does make highways a bit safer and will probably increase the number insuranced slightly.

Of course it has an impact. If illegals were miserable here because they couldn't' get around, couldn't work, couldn't get on social programs for their kids, not able to haven anchor babies, they would quit coming here. Who wants to migrate to a place they'd be miserable in?

If these foreigners were known to vote Republican, not only would we have a 50 foot wall along every part of our southern border, but every illegal would be deported regardless if they were breaking the law or not. So it is political, and there is nothing you can do to change that.

The goal of the anti-white party is to eliminate whites as a majority so they can have government domination forever. So I'm not buying into this safety BS. Safety has nothing to do with it.

 

[beagle9]

However the signs tell you what a driver should be aware of, and they are all written in English.

Exactly

That is why them getting a license makes us safer

You are NOT this stupid. Just isn't possible.

Having properly trained, licensed and insured drivers does not make us safer?

Did you ever move on from that short bus?

You know that's not what it's about, and that's the rub. Political desperation is what it's about, and because of the bullcrap the Democrats keep pulling, well it's just causing people to suffer on and on and on.

Having a drivers license doesn’t make you a citizen

Just shows you are qualified to drive

Don't need non-citizen's driving on our roads with American issued drivers licenses. They can do that back in their own country with their own drivers certificates.

The only thing we should require here, is a test to see if they can understand, and can drive on our roads safely. If so, then issue them a special certificate with a time stamp on it. This only gives them the ability to drive and nothing else, otherwise nothing to be in the form of participating in our government or government processes.