Republican war on Millennials looks like a suicide mission

[Mr.Blonde]

“A man who is not a liberal at 16 has no heart, A man who is not a conservative at 60 has no head.”
British statesman Benjamin Disraeli

Life hasn't really hit the Millennial generation yet. Most of them don't have a spouse and kids who need braces and want to go to Disney World yet. Plus they have to save for retirement etc.

Once that that starts happening you will be amazed how many of them will turn conservative.

That is what happened to me I was liberal until I wanted to be able to support myself and go to the bar. I became very conservative when I had kids of my own who want and need things and I don't have time nor money to worry about the people who refuse to help themselves.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It's way too early to predict who will vote for who. After all, the Me Too Flu hasn't finished bashing men yet.

 

[flacaltenn]

I don't have time nor money to worry about the people who refuse to help themselves.

Agreed with everything up to that. I was off in the deep Left end of the pool at 22. But as for "worrying about people" -- It's not something to be tackled from thousands of miles away with a check. You need to triage and UNDERSTAND each case. And Federal "one size fits all" problems solutions are just brain-dead and not what compassion and labor goes into "fixing people".. It HAS to be supported -- if the RIGHT folks are doing it..

 

[Avatar4321]

I think you're an idiot if you think millennials are are monolithic group that all thinks the same. I know the media likes to portray them like that, but its nonsense.

 

[debbiedowner]

Republican war on Millennials looks like a suicide mission

"The string of Democratic victories on Election Night 2017 falls well within the tradition of the party not holding the White House cleaning up in off-year elections. But what’s notable is that younger voters are generally mad AF at President Trump and ready to clap back at the ballot box — right as Millennials are prepared to eclipse Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation of eligible voters.

While Trump is already historically unpopular for a new president, his appeal to America’s closest to death is keeping his ratings afloat, according to pollster William Jordan. Among younger voters, however, the president has already sunk to the level of George W. Bush in 2008 — after W had led America into the Hurricane Katrina debacle, two failed wars and the beginning of the Great Recession.

And it was likely W’s repellence to younger voters as much as Obama’s appeal to them that helped Obama win 66% of the 18-to-29 vote in 2008 as young people flooded to the polls in numbers that hadn’t been seen since 18-year-olds got the vote in 1972.

So how is Trump’s GOP handling a hemorrhaging of young voters who are establishing voting patterns that could last the rest of their adult lives?

By trolling them out of the middle class.

How does the GOP tax plan, which has now passed the House and Senate in differing but rhyming versions, hurt young people?

Cosmopolitan’s Robin Marty counted the potential ways: higher taxes, more expensive student loans, rising insurance premiums, underfunded public schools, lower home values and a withering safety net."

Well, all I have to say is those millineals better get their asses to the polls in 2018 and 2020.

 

[jillian]

Shouldn't this be a requirement for HS graduation?

Buuut... I took econ in high school AND in college,. Yet I disagree with a lot of libertarians (especially the nasty little Randians) vehemently. Apparently, learning about economics doesn't exactly propel one into Libertariansim. IN fact, it seems unlikely to do so. Explain.

Recent graduates of HS have no clues how tax law is written or works. No IDEA how the debt or SocSec/Medicare is actually financed. I was talking about folks who flock to Bernie. Bernie is a hero. He's right on 1/2 of the things that the LParty supports. He ALSO -- has no clue what MOVES an economy or that it's NOT the economy he grew up in.. Also apparently doesn't lean on any math talents.

Revealing to Millenniials that they have been robbed TWICE thru FICA taxes on SS/Medicare is a real eye opener. When they realize that Congress continually ROBBED the SS surplus and left NOTHING of tangible value in the Trust Fund, they start to question "UNIVERSAL" anything. After all --- the truth is - now that SS is running deficits on income/payments -- that money is coming is out of THEIR POCKETS because NEW DEBT is being issued to cover the IOUs in the phony Trust Fund. And it's THEM that are paying for the 40 years of robbing a surplus.

Things like that. Seeing govt in a spotlight focused on their ineptitude, and lack of motivation to MANAGE the monstrous structure they keep building..

so they're being robbed by trump and his kleptocrats now. gee... that's so much better.

 

[jillian]

I think you're an idiot if you think millennials are are monolithic group that all thinks the same. I know the media likes to portray them like that, but its nonsense.

you're right. there are lots of millionaires.

but there's only one top 1% stealing from the other 99%

 

[jillian]

Or maybe Millennials will like winning so much they will forget why they were mad.

Millennials know that the COUNTRY is losing because elections are all about winning. They don't want to win. They WANT action, competence, and leadership... A few Indies or 3rd party people in Congress speaking out would SMASH the 2 party stranglehold on "winning".

Look at how effectively the short-timers, Flake, Corker, McCain are at being able to actually shed the Party restraints and speak for themselves. 10 INDEPENDENT folks in Congress, NOT MUZZLED by party leadership, would be a bigger force than offering "winners" like McConnell/Pelosi or Hillary/El Loco Cheeto Grande.

Millennial allowed the orange loon to get into office.

Well that progress Jillian. At least you're acknowledging that nearly 6% of the national vote went OUTSIDE the 2 Brand Name parties. Real reason Hillary lost several states. And the pop vote margin she HAD -- was only 1/2 of the amount that went to Greens, LParty and Jakey's obscure guy in Utah..

You're getting it. Maybe you can go tell the pollsters how they got the results so horribly wrong by IGNORING all the choices on the ballot.

he won by 70,000 votes over 3 states.

and I'm not even sure of that since they've never done a damage assessment of the Russian hacking.

 

[deanrd]

Ah, the world according to Cosmo. What could be a better indication of the world according to girls who were molested by left wing democrats?

Like Roy Moore and Donald Trump?

Trump Walked in on Teen Pageant Contestants Changing

 

[flacaltenn]

Or maybe Millennials will like winning so much they will forget why they were mad.

Millennials know that the COUNTRY is losing because elections are all about winning. They don't want to win. They WANT action, competence, and leadership... A few Indies or 3rd party people in Congress speaking out would SMASH the 2 party stranglehold on "winning".

Look at how effectively the short-timers, Flake, Corker, McCain are at being able to actually shed the Party restraints and speak for themselves. 10 INDEPENDENT folks in Congress, NOT MUZZLED by party leadership, would be a bigger force than offering "winners" like McConnell/Pelosi or Hillary/El Loco Cheeto Grande.

Millennial allowed the orange loon to get into office.

Well that progress Jillian. At least you're acknowledging that nearly 6% of the national vote went OUTSIDE the 2 Brand Name parties. Real reason Hillary lost several states. And the pop vote margin she HAD -- was only 1/2 of the amount that went to Greens, LParty and Jakey's obscure guy in Utah..

You're getting it. Maybe you can go tell the pollsters how they got the results so horribly wrong by IGNORING all the choices on the ballot.

he won by 70,000 votes over 3 states.

and I'm not even sure of that since they've never done a damage assessment of the Russian hacking.

Exactly.. She lost 3 states by far LESS then # of people voting "other parties".. In fact, she lost TWO most definitely by JUST the protest vote that went for the Green Party. They never GOT that many votes EVER..

Lots of people pissed about all the disenfranchisement you heaped on Bernie..

 

[ptbw forever]

Who makes this shit up? There were lot of millennials who voted for Trump. In fact, the millennial generation is guaranteed to turn put way more conservative then the media would like to portray them: Millennials have had to endure the horrid things their Gen-X parents and baby-boomer grandparents brought upon them: The endless war in the Middle East, liberalism, a national debt that will never be paid off, socialism, and Barack Obama.

The OP probably isn't aware of this but the first millennial entered military service in 1998, and the first wave of them are getting ready to retire.

You have your generations mixed up.

You are confusing Millennials with Gen Xers.

Millennials are those who grew up during the turn of the millennium(born very late 80s to late 90s)

I am 28 and I am at the front end of the Millennials, ,my parents are baby boomers, and my grandparents were part of the “greatest generation”.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

I think you're an idiot if you think millennials are are monolithic group that all thinks the same. I know the media likes to portray them like that, but its nonsense.

you're right. there are lots of millionaires.

but there's only one top 1% stealing from the other 99%

How can you steal something someone that doesn't have it?

Or maybe Millennials will like winning so much they will forget why they were mad.

Millennials know that the COUNTRY is losing because elections are all about winning. They don't want to win. They WANT action, competence, and leadership... A few Indies or 3rd party people in Congress speaking out would SMASH the 2 party stranglehold on "winning".

Look at how effectively the short-timers, Flake, Corker, McCain are at being able to actually shed the Party restraints and speak for themselves. 10 INDEPENDENT folks in Congress, NOT MUZZLED by party leadership, would be a bigger force than offering "winners" like McConnell/Pelosi or Hillary/El Loco Cheeto Grande.

Millennial allowed the orange loon to get into office.

Well that progress Jillian. At least you're acknowledging that nearly 6% of the national vote went OUTSIDE the 2 Brand Name parties. Real reason Hillary lost several states. And the pop vote margin she HAD -- was only 1/2 of the amount that went to Greens, LParty and Jakey's obscure guy in Utah..

You're getting it. Maybe you can go tell the pollsters how they got the results so horribly wrong by IGNORING all the choices on the ballot.

he won by 70,000 votes over 3 states.

and I'm not even sure of that since they've never done a damage assessment of the Russian hacking.

What Russian hacking?

 

[jillian]

Either Party who demonizes the Millennials who will be a minority party.

That doesn't mean they don't need to smarten up

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Or maybe Millennials will like winning so much they will forget why they were mad.

Millennials know that the COUNTRY is losing because elections are all about winning. They don't want to win. They WANT action, competence, and leadership... A few Indies or 3rd party people in Congress speaking out would SMASH the 2 party stranglehold on "winning".

Look at how effectively the short-timers, Flake, Corker, McCain are at being able to actually shed the Party restraints and speak for themselves. 10 INDEPENDENT folks in Congress, NOT MUZZLED by party leadership, would be a bigger force than offering "winners" like McConnell/Pelosi or Hillary/El Loco Cheeto Grande.

Millennial allowed the orange loon to get into office.

Well that progress Jillian. At least you're acknowledging that nearly 6% of the national vote went OUTSIDE the 2 Brand Name parties. Real reason Hillary lost several states. And the pop vote margin she HAD -- was only 1/2 of the amount that went to Greens, LParty and Jakey's obscure guy in Utah..

You're getting it. Maybe you can go tell the pollsters how they got the results so horribly wrong by IGNORING all the choices on the ballot.

he won by 70,000 votes over 3 states.

and I'm not even sure of that since they've never done a damage assessment of the Russian hacking.

How does one do damage assessment of something that never happened?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I think you're an idiot if you think millennials are are monolithic group that all thinks the same. I know the media likes to portray them like that, but its nonsense.

you're right. there are lots of millionaires.

but there's only one top 1% stealing from the other 99%

Hmmm. I'm part of that 99%, and I don't remember anybody stealing anything from me other than Democrat politicians.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republican war on Millennials looks like a suicide mission

"The string of Democratic victories on Election Night 2017 falls well within the tradition of the party not holding the White House cleaning up in off-year elections. But what’s notable is that younger voters are generally mad AF at President Trump and ready to clap back at the ballot box — right as Millennials are prepared to eclipse Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation of eligible voters.

While Trump is already historically unpopular for a new president, his appeal to America’s closest to death is keeping his ratings afloat, according to pollster William Jordan. Among younger voters, however, the president has already sunk to the level of George W. Bush in 2008 — after W had led America into the Hurricane Katrina debacle, two failed wars and the beginning of the Great Recession.

And it was likely W’s repellence to younger voters as much as Obama’s appeal to them that helped Obama win 66% of the 18-to-29 vote in 2008 as young people flooded to the polls in numbers that hadn’t been seen since 18-year-olds got the vote in 1972.

So how is Trump’s GOP handling a hemorrhaging of young voters who are establishing voting patterns that could last the rest of their adult lives?

By trolling them out of the middle class.

How does the GOP tax plan, which has now passed the House and Senate in differing but rhyming versions, hurt young people?

Cosmopolitan’s Robin Marty counted the potential ways: higher taxes, more expensive student loans, rising insurance premiums, underfunded public schools, lower home values and a withering safety net."

Well, all I have to say is those millineals better get their asses to the polls in 2018 and 2020.

The Millennials are the middle-aged people still living with mom and dad. A coworker of mine is a millennial, and he said he's embarrassed of his generation. He said all his friends have this attitude that they don't need to work. How do you expect to get these people out of their parents basement and vote???

 

[flacaltenn]

Republican war on Millennials looks like a suicide mission

"The string of Democratic victories on Election Night 2017 falls well within the tradition of the party not holding the White House cleaning up in off-year elections. But what’s notable is that younger voters are generally mad AF at President Trump and ready to clap back at the ballot box — right as Millennials are prepared to eclipse Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation of eligible voters.

While Trump is already historically unpopular for a new president, his appeal to America’s closest to death is keeping his ratings afloat, according to pollster William Jordan. Among younger voters, however, the president has already sunk to the level of George W. Bush in 2008 — after W had led America into the Hurricane Katrina debacle, two failed wars and the beginning of the Great Recession.

And it was likely W’s repellence to younger voters as much as Obama’s appeal to them that helped Obama win 66% of the 18-to-29 vote in 2008 as young people flooded to the polls in numbers that hadn’t been seen since 18-year-olds got the vote in 1972.

So how is Trump’s GOP handling a hemorrhaging of young voters who are establishing voting patterns that could last the rest of their adult lives?

By trolling them out of the middle class.

How does the GOP tax plan, which has now passed the House and Senate in differing but rhyming versions, hurt young people?

Cosmopolitan’s Robin Marty counted the potential ways: higher taxes, more expensive student loans, rising insurance premiums, underfunded public schools, lower home values and a withering safety net."

Well, all I have to say is those millineals better get their asses to the polls in 2018 and 2020.

The Millennials are the middle-aged people still living with mom and dad. A coworker of mine is a millennial, and he said he's embarrassed of his generation. He said all his friends have this attitude that they don't need to work. How do you expect to get these people out of their parents basement and vote???

I have a millennial. Not living in the house anymore and doing quite well. They are ANGRY at Washington. And they WANT to drain the swamp. When daughter and boyfriend come over we discuss politics. They consider me "safe to debate" because I'm just as angry at BOTH parties as they are. They are getting a raw deal. Which makes it hard for them to buy into politics as usual.

They LISTEN to arguments as to why Wash doesn't work anymore. And they migrate towards Socialism because they aren't aware of how Wash. SHOULD work. But they realize that Socialism won't bring the fiscal sanity that fixes their issues. So they either "check out" of the process, or just rant bullshit based on the brainwashing they get in the academic world.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

On the other side, I think millennials are getting a little sick of all the identity politics bullshit, especially after college. We just want people to be treated fairly regardless of their race/gender/orientation. Why is that so much to ask? That also means dropping the eternal victimhood act. That shit is old and we're tired of it.

The problem with that is people are already treated equal. What voters are sick of hearing about is how they are not with no evidence to support it.

It's kind of like that Equal Pay act that Democrats were trying to BS the voters about. Equal pay is a good idea, that's why it was passed in the early 60's. But Democrats carried on like it never happened and it was a new idea.

 

[John Shaw]

On the other side, I think millennials are getting a little sick of all the identity politics bullshit, especially after college. We just want people to be treated fairly regardless of their race/gender/orientation. Why is that so much to ask? That also means dropping the eternal victimhood act. That shit is old and we're tired of it.

The problem with that is people are already treated equal. What voters are sick of hearing about is how they are not with no evidence to support it.

It's kind of like that Equal Pay act that Democrats were trying to BS the voters about. Equal pay is a good idea, that's why it was passed in the early 60's. But Democrats carried on like it never happened and it was a new idea.

Agree 100%. If you're going to make these grand claims of 77 cents on the dollar, or whatever debunked bullshit they're still peddling, make sure you're leaning on serious research.\

Even my ultraliberal sociology prof in college admitted that those studies were garbage, and that the actual wage gap is between 3 and 8 cents on the dollar. Which could be attributed to a number of things.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republican war on Millennials looks like a suicide mission

"The string of Democratic victories on Election Night 2017 falls well within the tradition of the party not holding the White House cleaning up in off-year elections. But what’s notable is that younger voters are generally mad AF at President Trump and ready to clap back at the ballot box — right as Millennials are prepared to eclipse Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation of eligible voters.

While Trump is already historically unpopular for a new president, his appeal to America’s closest to death is keeping his ratings afloat, according to pollster William Jordan. Among younger voters, however, the president has already sunk to the level of George W. Bush in 2008 — after W had led America into the Hurricane Katrina debacle, two failed wars and the beginning of the Great Recession.

And it was likely W’s repellence to younger voters as much as Obama’s appeal to them that helped Obama win 66% of the 18-to-29 vote in 2008 as young people flooded to the polls in numbers that hadn’t been seen since 18-year-olds got the vote in 1972.

So how is Trump’s GOP handling a hemorrhaging of young voters who are establishing voting patterns that could last the rest of their adult lives?

By trolling them out of the middle class.

How does the GOP tax plan, which has now passed the House and Senate in differing but rhyming versions, hurt young people?

Cosmopolitan’s Robin Marty counted the potential ways: higher taxes, more expensive student loans, rising insurance premiums, underfunded public schools, lower home values and a withering safety net."

Well, all I have to say is those millineals better get their asses to the polls in 2018 and 2020.

The Millennials are the middle-aged people still living with mom and dad. A coworker of mine is a millennial, and he said he's embarrassed of his generation. He said all his friends have this attitude that they don't need to work. How do you expect to get these people out of their parents basement and vote???

I have a millennial. Not living in the house anymore and doing quite well. They are ANGRY at Washington. And they WANT to drain the swamp. When daughter and boyfriend come over we discuss politics. They consider me "safe to debate" because I'm just as angry at BOTH parties as they are. They are getting a raw deal. Which makes it hard for them to buy into politics as usual.

They LISTEN to arguments as to why Wash doesn't work anymore. And they migrate towards Socialism because they aren't aware of how Wash. SHOULD work. But they realize that Socialism won't bring the fiscal sanity that fixes their issues. So they either "check out" of the process, or just rant bullshit based on the brainwashing they get in the academic world.

There are exceptions to the rule, just like my coworker. However this coworker is my employers son.

My niece and nephew are doing just fine. The are both hard workers and not the epitome of what Millennials are renown for. Both college graduates, both living on their own. Both trying to repay their college debt.