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Nope. Not a single state has banned abortion, vermin.14 states have made abortion illegal.
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Abortion Laws by State - Center for Reproductive Rights
The U.S. Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade, so it’s crucial to understand abortion laws by state, and where abortion is protected. Learn more now.reproductiverights.org
Nope. Not a single state has banned abortion, vermin.
Have you not heard of a hysterectomy, dumbass. Quite a common procedure among women who have had all the children they want.Seriously, are you that naive?
How many Republican women do you know that have more than 5 children?
"Up to 1965 the average woman in the world had more than 5 children. Since then we have seen an unprecedented change. The number has halved. Globally, the average per woman is now below 2.5 children."
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Fertility Rate
How does the number of children vary across the world and over time? What is driving the rapid global change?ourworldindata.org
Liberal women are just more honest.
nope. You can still get an abortion on all 50 states, KKKanadian vermin.The lying FuckBoi, who never backs up his false claims, strikes again:
Where is Abortion Illegal? | Abortion Limits by State
Is abortion still legal in your state? Use our access tool to discover what states still allow abortion and which have adopted abortion restrictions.www.plannedparenthoodaction.org
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A Review of Exceptions in State Abortion Bans: Implications for the Provision of Abortion Services | KFF
This issue brief examines the varying exceptions (for life, health, rape/incest, and fatal fetal anomalies) in state abortion bans and restrictions and the complications that arise when pregnant people attempt to access abortion care under these exceptions.www.kff.org
You could stop embarassing yourself if you actually used google.
Frankenstein said: Legal doesn't make it right! frnknstn.23.12.22 #95
Making decisions by law abiding individuals in this country that have an impact on an individual’s right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness are limited to actions that cause no harm to other individuals or to society as a whole. Abortion causes no harm to a separate individual person and has zero harmful impact on society:
So Saint Frankenstein’s argument that abortion being legal doesn't make it right should not allow a state government to enforce what a religious majority thinks is legal but not morally right.,
This is another argument fail by a Republican sanctimonious saint.
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Yep, just look at all the black ballot stuffers that were snuffed-out 20 odd years ago.Actually abortion helps Republicans a hell of a lot. As you say it eliminates future Democrats.
Who else are we to blame for an unprotected woman that spreads her legs?I suffered side effects as well. Not weight gain, but I wasn't able to take them at all. I got really sick with them. I was also really sick with two of my pregnancies as well. If your body responds badly to pregnancy hormones, you're going to have problems taking the pill.
You don't love or respect women at all. Lot of straight men hate women, but being card carrying heterosexuals, they put up with them. Your straight of hatred of women comes through in every post blaming women for "spreading their legs".
1. Overly religious is better than this:No He's overly religious. And I connect the dots between believing the bible literally and believing conspiracy theories.
Plus he and his older adopted black son monitor each others pornography? That's weird. I bet the fuck.
Republicans will lie and say they are pro choice, then stab us in the backs.
Abortion was once common practice in America. A small group of doctors changed that
JUNE 6, 20224:29 PM ET
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By Ramtin Arablouei
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Rund Abdelfatah
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Abortion wasn't always controversial. In fact, in colonial America it would have been considered a fairly common practice. But in the mid-1800s, a small group of physicians set out to change that.
Common law on abortion in 1776 British Colonies should have been settled law matching RvW but 19th Century white racist men fucked that all up.
In U.S. history, abortion wasn't always controversial. In fact, in colonial America, it was considered a fairly common practice, a private decision made by women and aided mostly by midwives. But in the mid-1800s, a small group of physicians set out to change that. Led by a zealous young doctor named Horatio Storer, they launched a campaign to make abortion illegal in every state. Hosts Ramtin Arablouei and Rund Abdelfatah from our history podcast Throughline bring us the story.
RUND ABDELFATAH, BYLINE: In 1860, governors of every single state in the U.S. received this letter from the recently established American Medical Association.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Reading) The evil to society of this crime is evident from the fact that its instances in this country are now to be counted by hundreds of thousands.
ABDELFATAH: But there was really only one guy holding the pen.
HAUGEBERG: Basically, he ghostwrote a letter from the president of the AMA - so it looked like it was coming from the president, but Storer was actually the one who wrote it - saying that the AMA opposes abortion. And he used the language of morality.
ABDELFATAH: The letter was pivotal to what historians call the physicians' crusade against abortion, and Storer was making a few key arguments for why abortion should be illegal across the country. First, he introduced a new idea.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Reading) The child is alive from the moment of conception.
Up till now, people generally agreed that life began when a woman could actually feel life move inside her, known then as quickening. But that wasn't enough for Storer. He campaigned on a moral argument that also tapped into the racial fears of the moment, fears that would eventually inspire a pseudoscientific field of, quote, "racial improvement" and planned breeding of the population - American eugenics. These racial fears would inspire forced sterilization programs to decrease certain populations where Storer's anti-abortion campaign was trying to increase other populations by focusing on...
HAUGEBERG: The birth rate for Protestant white women had been declining over the course of the 19th century. So he had fears of what were commonly - what was commonly referred to as race suicide, that the Anglo stock wasn't going to replenish itself fast enough to keep up with the swells of new immigrants to the United States.
REAGAN: Well, it is going to be Chinese migrants. It's going to be African Americans, newly freed people and Catholics. They are not the ones using abortion. It's our, you know, Yankee women who are using abortion, trying to get into medical school, trying to do politics when they should be at home, having babies and taking care of them.
ARABLOUEI: So part of Storer's thinking was that criminalizing abortion would help rebalance the scales of who was being born into this country. But there was more to this strategy. He saw this as a way to finally knock out the competition - midwives.
HAUGEBERG: And so if the AMA could wrest control over the marketplace of abortion, it would be lucrative to this growing cadre of university-educated, mostly male physicians who are beginning to specialize in things like obstetrics and gynecology.
ARABLOUEI: So midwives were slandered in this campaign.
GOODWIN: Described as unsanitary, unclean, as immoral.
ARABLOUEI: And as clueless as the mothers themselves.
REAGAN: Saying, women do not know. They don't know when they quicken - and really makes fun of women's own sensations and knowledge and says, you know, some of them quicken at one month. Some of them never quicken at all, and then they have a baby.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Reading) They may very constantly be recognized by the physician in cases where no sensation is felt by the mother.
REAGAN: So there's this scoffing at women's knowledge, saying, this is a sin. This is murder. You're killing children.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Reading) By the moral law, the willful killing of a human being at any stage of its existence is murder.
REAGAN: And the general public of women don't get it. They don't know that. And we need to change the laws.
ABDELFATAH: The solution, as he saw it...
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Reading) Remove the cause.
ABDELFATAH: A woman's reproductive organs.
HAUGEBERG: He was really hostile to women.
ABDELFATAH: And that hostility was starting to gain traction. A few years into the campaign, some states began to pass laws outlawing or restricting abortion. Perhaps the harshest was in Connecticut in 1860. The law got rid of the quickening rule and made abortion a crime for which the abortionist and the woman getting the abortion could be fined and jailed. And over the next few decades, most states across the country would adopt similar laws thanks in part to another campaign that was going on at the same time that was getting even more attention. It was led by a Union Army Civil War veteran named...
ABDELFATAH: Anthony Comstock was a descendant of some of the earliest Puritans in New England. He took that ancestry to heart and went on to work with the Young Men's Christian Association, the YMCA, in New York City and founded the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice. And he dedicated his life to exactly that - suppressing vice.
ARABLOUEI: In 1873, Comstock began lobbying Congress to pass anti-obscenity laws. There had been a rise of prostitution and new forms of birth control, like diaphragms and rubber condoms, all of which triggered a powerful backlash, a backlash that culminated in the Comstock Law. The law made it illegal to mail sex toys, pornography, contraception, abortion drugs or even information about contraception and abortion.
GOODWIN: Including some medical books that had pictures of anatomy - right? - is just how deep it went.
ARABLOUEI: But here's the thing. Comstock conflated birth control with abortion. He saw no difference between the two, which meant that abortion was wrapped up into this new law, making it a federal offense to send or order material about abortion by mail with punishment of up to $5,000 in fines, which is over $110,000 today, and up to 10 years in prison. The law was the first of its kind in the Western world.
Yea but where are the abortion clinics? And sure as long as you get there in 10 days.nope. You can still get an abortion on all 50 states, KKKanadian vermin.
Have you not heard of a hysterectomy, dumbass. Quite a common procedure among women who have had all the children they want.
Mabye if I post it 5 more times, you will switch from your assumption that this is white male and Republican and Christian because almost all the groups I monitor are NONE OF THOSE, uninformed moronLibby von H said: I know your type intimately. lobby h.23.11.22 #70
That is an extremely goofy argument Saint Libbyvonh. I ‘ll get to you soon.
kyzr said: Abortion is a state issue. kyzr!.23.11.21 #2
But forcing full term gestation on women when a state government is run by mostly white male fundamentalist REPUBLICAN Christians like Saint Mike Johnson is a violation of individual rights and violation of separation of church and state.
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There's more than enough babies being born. Only kooks fall for the declining birthrate lies.
Mabye if I post it 5 more times, you will switch from your assumption that this is white male and Republican and Christian because almost all the groups I monitor are NONE OF THOSE, uninformed moron
SECULAR PRO-lIFE
PRO-LIFE ALLIANCE OF GAYS AND LESBIANS +
HUMAN RIGHTS START WHEN HUMAN LIFE BEGINS
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
PRO-LIFE OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS
BOARD CERTIFIED. PROFESSIONAL.
MEDICAL EXPERTS IN THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT SINCE 1973
Democrats for Life
PRogressive Anti-abortion Uprising
Feminsts for Life
IN my time on here you get the vote for MOST UNINFORMED
Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women.