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Questions for Saint OKTexas and Saint Mac-7 :
Mac-7 said: If the child has a heartbeat it should be protected mvc-n.23.06.26 #31
OKTexas said: Think about the lifespan and make a list of what you would consider the basic periods of development. vktxs.23.11.25 #278
What is your position Saint Oktexas on the exact legal point where civil protections begin when a human being’ starts life on the full life continuum from conception until any cause of death?
Do you agree with Saint Macseven in POST mvc-n.23.06.26 #31 in which he states “when the child has a heartbeat it should be protected” ?
nf.23.11.25 to vktxs.23.11.25 #278
I do not want to kill that person or the person that conceived and is gestating that ZEF person. So why do you ask me that question?So you tell me, when is it appropriate to kill this person?
I do not want to kill that person or the person that conceived and is gestating that ZEF person. So why do you ask me that question?
Do you mean to save her life from harm and potential risk of death as documented in the maternal death rate?Personally I think a woman should be only be able to kill her child in self defense,
The rational argument is that; (in your own words), it's a human life. And is already recognized as such by the State regardless of the abortion issue. Just see all the convictions for double homicide, when a pregnant woman is murdered. Along with all the others where an otherwise healthy, unborn human is killed during the commission of a crime...Can you make a rational argument as to why society has a duty to protect human life at the sixth week of gestation by invading the privacy of what is biologically going on inside a pregnant woman’s body?
No one "forces" full term gestation. Gestation is a naturally occurring event. Society is not participating in that event. So the premise is flawed from the get go.OKTexas said: So are you saying the premise of your thread is a lie?
No.
The premise of this thread is;
Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women because protected unborn life from the instant of conception has not been a norm for Americans for centuries.
The norm the past fifty years has been that protected life begins at reasonable expectation of life outside the womb.
And that is the way it was when the US Constitution was written; protected life begins at reasonable expectation of life outside the womb.
nf.23.11.25
Unless it is terminated prior to completion.Gestation is a naturally occurring event.
Thats a legal question that only the gods in black robes can answerMac-7 said: From the moment of conception every unborn child is a unique human with its own DNA mvc-n.23.11.25 #274
When does it become a “protected” life?
nf.23.11.25 #277 to mvc-n.23.11.25 #274
Cancer cells are mutations of normal cells in the human hostEvery cancer cell also has a unique human DNA
So you would forgive the rapist who is guilty but kill the innocent child who is guilty of nothing?NotfooledbyW said: Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. nf.23.11.21 #1
HeyNorm said: And again, even with your diatribe, it didn’t change the FACT that the only gestation EVER done by force, is through rape. hynrm.23.11.24 #269
It is an absurd statement if the phrase “full term gestation” were used as per the original POST of this thread nf.23.11.21 #1 .
What Saint Heynorm wants to say is that the only FULL TERM GESTATION EVER done by force, is through rape that lasts from conception for up to nine months until a baby is born or stillborn when full term gestation is complete.
To backup the absurdity used in this specific argument, Saint Heynorm will not only be required to cite a case where a rape victim suffers an eight to nine month duration of rape, he will have to verify with irrefutable data that never has there ever been a case where a woman was impregnated by a repost and she could not get away from him to end gestation by obtaining the medical or pharmaceutical procedure of induced abortion.
nf.23.11.25 #275 to hynrm.23.11.24 #269
Or the guy can just wear a condom. It’s not like they’re expensive.Dont spread your legs to any Tom, Dick, or Harry and you wont have to worry about carrying a baby. Abstinence works, but then most Democrats couldnt get laid then.
Even a condom can come off or tear...But when people wait till they are ready for a baby, there cant be any baby unless it is immaculate...Or the guy can just wear a condom. It’s not like they’re expensive.
NotfooledbyW said: Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. nf.23.11.21 #1
HeyNorm said: And again, even with your diatribe, it didn’t change the FACT that the only gestation EVER done by force, is through rape. hynrm.23.11.24 #269
It is an absurd statement if the phrase “full term gestation” were used as per the original POST of this thread nf.23.11.21 #1 .
What Saint Heynorm wants to say is that the only FULL TERM GESTATION EVER done by force, is through rape that lasts from conception for up to nine months until a baby is born or stillborn when full term gestation is complete.
To backup the absurdity used in this specific argument, Saint Heynorm will not only be required to cite a case where a rape victim suffers an eight to nine month duration of rape, he will have to verify with irrefutable data that never has there ever been a case where a woman was impregnated by a repost and she could not get away from him to end gestation by obtaining the medical or pharmaceutical procedure of induced abortion.
nf.23.11.25 #275 to hynrm.23.11.24 #269
what about full term gestation and can you explain why you believe a rapist can force full term gestation on a woman when rapists don’t continue raping a woman for six weeks to see if his victim misses a periodGestation
We all know that’s extremely rare.Even a condom can come off or tear...But when people wait till they are ready for a baby, there cant be any baby unless it is immaculate...
Full term gestation is no different the mid term gestation, all part of the same natural process.what about full term gestation and can you explain why you believe a rapist can force full term gestation on a woman when rapists don’t continue raping a woman for six weeks to see if his victim misses a period
Or do you have insight that that happens every time a woman is raped? Could you please share?
How does a rapist force full term gestation on a woman in the same way the state of Texas and Alabama do?Full term gestation is no different the mid term gestation,
Rapist: By the act of rape if it causes the process of gestationHow does a rapist force full term gestation on a woman in the same way the state of Texas and Alabama do?
