Republicans introduce new health care bill This Week!

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans will introduce their much-awaited bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act this week, a senior House Republican aide told NBC News on Sunday.

"We are in a very good place right now," said the aide, who asked not to be identified.

AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, told NBC News: "We are now at the culmination of a years-long process to keep our promise to the American people."

A draft bill obtained by NBC News would repeal much of the current law, also known as Obamacare, within the next few years and set in place a Republican vision of health care.

The draft legislation would provide expanded tax credits and health savings accounts for individuals while reducing federal spending on tax subsidies and Medicaid and practically eliminating the employer and individual mandates to provide and carry health insurance.

Republicans to introduce health care replacement bill this week

So now you libs can quit crying about the Republicans not doing anything about Obama Care. No, it won't work like Obama Care either, because they are getting rid of the penalties that FORCE people to buy a product they don't want, need or can afford. Without the force part of the bill, Obama Care could never work; not that it's worked out very well anyway.

Less government regulation, less money government steals from working Americans, better for business and taxpayers, and a sigh of relief from everybody. Good bye Obama legacy.

 

[owebo]

Refreshing...

Although I can't stand Ryan, I do respect him for being consistent in following the normal way to draft bills from the committee level up rather than the Obama way, from the top down.....

 

[JoeB131]

So now you libs can quit crying about the Republicans not doing anything about Obama Care. No, it won't work like Obama Care either, because they are getting rid of the penalties that FORCE people to buy a product they don't want, need or can afford. Without the force part of the bill, Obama Care could never work; not that it's worked out very well anyway.

Less government regulation, less money government steals from working Americans, better for business and taxpayers, and a sigh of relief from everybody. Good bye Obama legacy.

Actually, it'll never pass, because the insurance industry won't put up with it.

You've just told the insurance companies they have to honor cancerman's signing up for insurance the day before he starts treatment, with no one forcing healthy people to pay into it.

 

[owebo]

So now you libs can quit crying about the Republicans not doing anything about Obama Care. No, it won't work like Obama Care either, because they are getting rid of the penalties that FORCE people to buy a product they don't want, need or can afford. Without the force part of the bill, Obama Care could never work; not that it's worked out very well anyway.

Less government regulation, less money government steals from working Americans, better for business and taxpayers, and a sigh of relief from everybody. Good bye Obama legacy.

Actually, it'll never pass, because the insurance industry won't put up with it.

You've just told the insurance companies they have to honor cancerman's signing up for insurance the day before he starts treatment, with no one forcing healthy people to pay into it.

Your socialist single payer dream is over....move on.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

That's the plan, to improve ACA under a new name. And it will take years. "A draft bill obtained by NBC News would repeal much of the current law, also known as Obamacare, within the next few years and set in place a Republican vision of health care.

The draft legislation would provide expanded tax credits and health savings accounts for individuals while reducing federal spending on tax subsidies and Medicaid and practically eliminating the employer and individual mandates to provide and carry health insurance."

You all were told that government health insurance programs would not go away.

 

[JoeB131]

Your socialist single payer dream is over....move on.....

Actually, it's inevitable... The sooner the private system collapses, the sooner people will demand one.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP knows it can't piss off its "base", so we're going to get another Frankenstein's monster.

I'm dreading this. The Dems gave us a pig, the GOP will give us a pig with lipstick.
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[owebo]

Your socialist single payer dream is over....move on.....

Actually, it's inevitable... The sooner the private system collapses, the sooner people will demand one.

No....we threw a pretty big wrench into your fascist machine....the democrat party is on the brink of spectular collapse and it will not survive, freeing americans for several generations....

 

[JoeB131]

No....we threw a pretty big wrench into your fascist machine....the democrat party is on the brink of spectular collapse and it will not survive, freeing americans for several generations....

Guy, Trump is a gift to the Democrats. I'm old enough to have seen both parties declared dead a couple of times.

you guys should be pissing yourself at the thought of 2018... because that's when we elect the guys whole be doing the redistricting after the Census happens in 2020.

 

[JoeB131]

The GOP knows it can't piss off its "base", so we're going to get another Frankenstein's monster.

I'm dreading this. The Dems gave us a pig, the GOP will give us a pig with lipstick.
.

And this is the problem the GOP has. The base will demand they do something, while big insurance will demand they keep the status quo, with maybe a few more goodies for big insurance.

But that will just hasten the collapse of the private system.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will veto a straight repeal. He said everyone would be covered.

 

[Mac1958]

What the GOP is avoiding telling their base is that a for-profit insurance company cannot accept people with pre-existing conditions, provide full coverage and keep costs down all at the same time. It will not work. You can not get there from here.

That's why people like the Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplement system so much. Everyone's basic/preventive/diagnostic costs are covered by the plan. Then they buy up, via free market competition and innovation, plans that provide coverage that fills the gaps.

It's right there. It's up and running. But the partisans aren't allowed to admit it.
.

 

[JoeB131]

What the GOP is avoiding telling their base is that a for-profit insurance company cannot accept people with pre-existing conditions, provide full coverage and keep costs down all at the same time. It will not work. You can not get there from here.

That's why people like the Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplement system so much. Everyone's basic/preventive/diagnostic costs are covered by the plan. Then they buy up, via free market competition and innovation, plans that provide coverage that fills the gaps.

It's right there. It's up and running. But the partisans aren't allowed to admit it.
.

Again, I don't see why we need insurance companies at all.

The rest of the world has single payer, and it works just fine, thank you.

The reality- We spend 17% of our GDP on health care - much of it going to stockholder payouts and those 8 and 9 figure executive salaries that add nothing to the value of health care -

While those single payer countries spend 8-11% of the GDP on health care.

Everyone is covered.
They have higher life expectancies
lower infant mortality rates
No one goes bankrupt because of a medical crisis

America is like the retarded kid who keeps writing down "2+2=Cat" and wondering why the other kids are laughing at him.

But as Upton Sinclair once observed, you can't get a man to understand a problem if his pay is based on him not understanding it.

The last thing we need is to let big insurance pick our pockets more than they already are.

 

[owebo]

What the GOP is avoiding telling their base is that a for-profit insurance company cannot accept people with pre-existing conditions, provide full coverage and keep costs down all at the same time. It will not work. You can not get there from here.

That's why people like the Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplement system so much. Everyone's basic/preventive/diagnostic costs are covered by the plan. Then they buy up, via free market competition and innovation, plans that provide coverage that fills the gaps.

It's right there. It's up and running. But the partisans aren't allowed to admit it.
.

Again, I don't see why we need insurance companies at all.

The rest of the world has single payer, and it works just fine, thank you.

The reality- We spend 17% of our GDP on health care - much of it going to stockholder payouts and those 8 and 9 figure executive salaries that add nothing to the value of health care -

While those single payer countries spend 8-11% of the GDP on health care.

Everyone is covered.
They have higher lift expectancies
lower infant mortality rates
No one goes bankrupt because of a medical crisis

America is like the retarded kid who keeps writing down "2+2=Cat" and wondering why the other kids are laughing at him.

But as Upton Sinclair once observed, you can't get a man to understand a problem if his pay is based on him not understanding it.

The last thing we need is to let big insurance pick our pockets more than they already are.

The rest or the world will catch up to our superior free market HC model soon.....

 

[JoeB131]

The rest or the world will catch up to our superior free market HC model soon.....

why should they? Our system is the one that has all the problems.. their systems are working just fine.

Germany has had universal health care since 1888.

 

[Penelope]

What the GOP is avoiding telling their base is that a for-profit insurance company cannot accept people with pre-existing conditions, provide full coverage and keep costs down all at the same time. It will not work. You can not get there from here.

That's why people like the Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplement system so much. Everyone's basic/preventive/diagnostic costs are covered by the plan. Then they buy up, via free market competition and innovation, plans that provide coverage that fills the gaps.

It's right there. It's up and running. But the partisans aren't allowed to admit it.
.

I suspect most people on here do not know the difference between Medicaid, Medicare, or Medicare Advantage or Medigap insurance. I think most think that Medicare covers everything and its a free.

 

[owebo]

The rest or the world will catch up to our superior free market HC model soon.....

why should they? Our system is the one that has all the problems.. their systems are working just fine.

Germany has had universal health care since 1888.

Germany's endless wars stifled their advancement a bit....

 

[Mac1958]

I suspect most people on here do not know the difference between Medicaid, Medicare, or Medicare Advantage or Medigap insurance. I think most think that Medicare covers everything and its a free.

Bingo. But that won't stop them from making simplistic generalizations.

I'm trained on this horrific crap every year. Most people simply don't know what they're talking about.
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[rightwinger]

Republicans will introduce their much-awaited bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act this week, a senior House Republican aide told NBC News on Sunday.

"We are in a very good place right now," said the aide, who asked not to be identified.

AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, told NBC News: "We are now at the culmination of a years-long process to keep our promise to the American people."

A draft bill obtained by NBC News would repeal much of the current law, also known as Obamacare, within the next few years and set in place a Republican vision of health care.

The draft legislation would provide expanded tax credits and health savings accounts for individuals while reducing federal spending on tax subsidies and Medicaid and practically eliminating the employer and individual mandates to provide and carry health insurance.

Republicans to introduce health care replacement bill this week

So now you libs can quit crying about the Republicans not doing anything about Obama Care. No, it won't work like Obama Care either, because they are getting rid of the penalties that FORCE people to buy a product they don't want, need or can afford. Without the force part of the bill, Obama Care could never work; not that it's worked out very well anyway.

Less government regulation, less money government steals from working Americans, better for business and taxpayers, and a sigh of relief from everybody. Good bye Obama legacy.

Believe it when I see it

 

[JoeB131]

Bingo. But that won't stop them from making simplistic generalizations.

I'm trained on this horrific crap every year. Most people simply don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, your industry has made this so complex you need a Ouija board and a Hunting dog to figure it all out.

single payer. Government collects taxes, government pays bills.

Simple enough.

works fine in the rest of the world.