'Revenge porn' should be a crime

[BlueGin]

his promise still passes muster

unless he posted the pics with words like; check out this whore/slut/etc

shes' not defamed and is not in danger

He encouraged others to stalk her and gave out her personal information (same thing).

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

 

[Derideo_Te]

There should be no porn on the internet that the participating "performers" do not agree to in writing (in a legal contract). Any violations should be considered a criminal act.

Celebrities are protected from these types of image violations. The average person should be also.

Which concerns defamation, libel, and slander law, having nothing to do with this case.

Defamation, libel, or slander occurs when unauthorized images or statements are attributed to someone which are damaging and false.

In this case the woman posed for the photos, which she willingly provided to the ex-boyfriend to use however he saw fit.

And defamation, libel, and slander address civil, not criminal, law.

His intent was to defame and to harm her reputation so she has a civil case in my opinion. The question here is whether this should be illegal. Given that he also posted her contact information thereby exposing her to stalking and harassment it rises to the level of depraved indifference.

Depraved Indifference Law & Legal Definition

To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant's conduct must be 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.

 

[dilloduck]

He encouraged others to stalk her and gave out her personal information (same thing).

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

What if only words were used to solicit harassment and humiliation ? Should that be illegal too ?

 

[Samson]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

What if only words were used to solicit harassment and humiliation ? Should that be illegal too ?

Stop Looking at Me!!!

 

[BlueGin]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

What if only words were used to solicit harassment and humiliation ? Should that be illegal too ?

There are already laws against stalking (that include cyber stalking). Which is the basis for the criminal suit she already has pending. So...yes.

 

[S.J.]

Let's stop splitting hairs, what the guy did was wrong, and he should pay a price for it.

 

[Derideo_Te]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

What if only words were used to solicit harassment and humiliation ? Should that be illegal too ?

There are limitations to free speech. You cannot intentionally yell "Fire" in a crowded theater knowing that it will cause panic and that harm will subsequently ensue during the rush to the exits. The laws of libel and slander are clear as to what you can say and write about someone else. These do not apply in private but once it is out in public then it becomes a matter for the law. By posting her name and address he has opened himself up to a civil suit. However if one of the people who saw her picture were to subsequently murder her he faces the possibility of being charged with depraved indifference.

 

[daveman]

Ultimately, it’s not the role of the state ‘safeguard’ citizens from their own stupidity. Nor does the Constitution authorize the state to do so.

Oh, then you're AGAINST Obamacare, mandatory seat belt laws, and mandatory motorcycle helmet laws.

 

[Jos]

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[Sherry]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

What if only words were used to solicit harassment and humiliation ? Should that be illegal too ?

We've come a long way since "For a good time call..." on the stall wall.

 

[Two Thumbs]

He encouraged others to stalk her and gave out her personal information (same thing).

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

I'm going to fall on the side of freedom sucks sometimes, especially when life isn't fair.

The stewpud shall be punished

 

[Katzndogz]

Women should not be rewarded for being stupid. They should ALWAYS have guarded themselves to prevent strangers from finding them on line!

The way to stop the posting of nude pictures is to stop taking nude pictures. Are people seriously this idiotic? Are women? "Stop me before I make a fool of myself".

The very second someone says I want to take naked pictures of you, or send me a nudie selfie, the bell should ring loud. Expect that that photo is going to be used against you and you will be defriended on facebook.

If women started acting like adults, maybe they would be able to pass some adult wisdom on to young girls and the whole practice of public nude pictures will go away.

So you view women being protected against forms of domestic violence,cyber stalking and sexual harassment as being "rewarded"? How about we stop rewarding the "trophy collectors" and hold them accountable instead? There's a thought.

She did not post her personal information online herself. It was posted on a revenge site by a man she had dated for 3 years (long after the relationship had ended when he found out she was dating someone new). He also posted them with added encouragement for others to contact her and harass her via phone,email and by stalking .

Domestic violence, stalking and sexual harassment are illegal in offline life and the work force. Why should they not be unacceptable online? The internet laws just need to catch up in this area and they will.

Did she permit nude pictures to be taken of herself? Did she give them to a man she was dating? That makes a whole bunch of what happened to her, her own fault. That there are laws against domestic violence and sexual harassment does not mean that women can be as silly an airhead as they not think to be. A woman's FIRST LINE of defense is not the judge, or a cop, or the court, her first line of defense is herself. How hard can it be for a woman to say "No". These crimes are just an updated "Looking for Mr. Goodbar".

 

[bianco]

'Revenge porn' in Australia is a crime.

Man jailed for posting nude photos of ex-girlfriend online | News.com.au

Man jailed for posting nude photos of ex-girlfriend online


A 20-year-old man who posted nude photographs of his ex-girlfriend on Facebook was sentenced to six months' jail in a landmark legal case.
In the first social networking-related conviction in Australian history, Ravshan "Ronnie" Usmanov pleaded guilty to publishing an indecent article.

He was initially sentenced to six months' home detention, but on appeal the sentence was suspended, The Sun-Herald reported.

The court heard that Usmanov posted six photographs of his ex-girlfriend -- showing her "nude in certain positions and clearly showing her breasts and genitalia" -- on his Facebook page in October last year.

He then emailed the woman, who had ended the relationship about three months earlier and moved out of their home, saying, "Some of your photos are now on Facebook".

After demanding Usmanov take down the photos, the woman reported the incident to police.

According to the newspaper, Usmanov told police, "I put the photos up because she hurt me and it was the only thing [I had] to hurt her."

Deputy Chief Magistrate Jane Mottley said as she sentenced Usmanov that she was "deterring both the offender and the community generally from committing similar crimes".

 

[Katzndogz]

That the man has received some kind of punishment doesn't change the fact that the woman was unbelievably stupid and put herself in that position.

 

[bianco]

That the man has received some kind of punishment doesn't change the fact that the woman was unbelievably stupid and put herself in that position.

People, especially young people, make mistakes.

Not the girl/young woman/any woman's fault...they did it for love.
It's the fault of the morons who post their naked pictures online for revenge.


Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

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No Harvard degree needed for this one either...change the law.
Make it a crime...problem solved.

A crime too if it's women who are posting pornographic images of ex boyfriends online for revenge.

 

[HUGGY]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

"Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only

Jane is an idiot. Bad things happen to dumb asses that agree to stupid things.

 

[BlueGin]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

"Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only

Jane is an idiot. Bad things happen to dumb asses that agree to stupid things.

Remember to tell that to the next family of a crime victim that put themselves in a bad situation by trusting the wrong person at the wrong time.

Note to self: All crime victims are dumb asses.

 

[BlueGin]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

I'm going to fall on the side of freedom sucks sometimes, especially when life isn't fair.

The stewpud shall be punished

Just not the perpetrators, huh. Talk about a stupid argument.

 

[BlueGin]

Women should not be rewarded for being stupid. They should ALWAYS have guarded themselves to prevent strangers from finding them on line!

The way to stop the posting of nude pictures is to stop taking nude pictures. Are people seriously this idiotic? Are women? "Stop me before I make a fool of myself".

The very second someone says I want to take naked pictures of you, or send me a nudie selfie, the bell should ring loud. Expect that that photo is going to be used against you and you will be defriended on facebook.

If women started acting like adults, maybe they would be able to pass some adult wisdom on to young girls and the whole practice of public nude pictures will go away.

So you view women being protected against forms of domestic violence,cyber stalking and sexual harassment as being "rewarded"? How about we stop rewarding the "trophy collectors" and hold them accountable instead? There's a thought.

She did not post her personal information online herself. It was posted on a revenge site by a man she had dated for 3 years (long after the relationship had ended when he found out she was dating someone new). He also posted them with added encouragement for others to contact her and harass her via phone,email and by stalking .

Domestic violence, stalking and sexual harassment are illegal in offline life and the work force. Why should they not be unacceptable online? The internet laws just need to catch up in this area and they will.

Did she permit nude pictures to be taken of herself? Did she give them to a man she was dating? That makes a whole bunch of what happened to her, her own fault. That there are laws against domestic violence and sexual harassment does not mean that women can be as silly an airhead as they not think to be. A woman's FIRST LINE of defense is not the judge, or a cop, or the court, her first line of defense is herself. How hard can it be for a woman to say "No". These crimes are just an updated "Looking for Mr. Goodbar".

Did you even read the article or watch the video? They sent each other explicit photos. One of them used them for revenge porn 3 years after the fact... the other did not. How about we start asking why people are raising morally corrupt douche bags that abuse other people,instead of blaming the victims? Someone needs to take personal responsiblity for their actions....and guess what...it ain't just the woman.

 

[Toome]

I can't support a law that compensates for someone's stupidity. She willingly posed for those pictures. I'm trying to think where was the point when posing was a good decision as opposed to the point when it might not be such a good idea. I can't get there. IF he had taken those photos without her knowledge, that would be different.