Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[bodecea]

This.

 

[gipper]

Is there a better way to mobilize and energize the left prior to the midterm elections, than overturning Roe v Wade?

 

[TemplarKormac]

I trust women as superior to politicians and bureaucrats in exercising control over their own bodies.

Does that, or did that trust extend to pregnant women refusing to get a covid vaccine?

 

[citygator]

Ok then where is the line? How many weeks before it's considered murder. I keep asking this and keep getting deflections. Put a stake in the ground.

Seems fine to me.

 

[bodecea]

Nonsense.
This assumes the only way to care about babies is to make sure they and their mother have a bunch of free stuff.
Sure, it makes sense to a welfare-state liberal, but in the real world, not so much.

Male.....

 

[TemplarKormac]

• Reasons individuals seek abortions later in pregnancy include medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion.

That is in stark contrast to the Democratic platform of "Abortion on Demand." No longer do they want it "safe, legal, and rare."

 

[TemplarKormac]

Seems fine to me.

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The flaw of your argument:

It isn't the rarity, it's the legality.

 

[Couchpotato]

Seems fine to me.

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This doesn't establish a line where the fetus is considered a life and therefore when abortion is considered murder. Quit being a pussy and say X week is when it's a life.

 

[citygator]

That is in stark contrast to the Democratic platform of "Abortion on Demand." No longer do they want it "safe, legal, and rare."

Link?

 

[Couchpotato]

Male.....View attachment 640527

Men shouldn't be allowed to abort babies either.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Link?

Abortion On Demand - National Abortion Federation

prochoice.org

Abortion On Demand

Abortion On Demand provides medication abortion care online quickly via easy telehealth consults with experienced practitioners.

abortionondemand.org

Anything else?

 

[TemplarKormac]

When you use the words "on demand" it is only natural to assume that also includes abortions that aren't medically necessary and can happen at any point in the preganancy.

 

[citygator]

Abortion On Demand - National Abortion Federation

prochoice.org

Abortion On Demand

Abortion On Demand provides medication abortion care online quickly via easy telehealth consults with experienced practitioners.

abortionondemand.org

Anything else?

Yea. This is a link. The democratic platform you moron.

ACHIEVING UNIVERSAL, AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE - Democrats

democrats.org

Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice​

Democrats are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights, and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should be able to access high-quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion. We will repeal the Title X domestic gag rule and restore federal funding for Planned Parenthood, which provides vital preventive and reproductive health care for millions of people, especially low-income people, and people of color, and LGBTQ+ people, including in underserved areas.

Democrats oppose and will fight to overturn federal and state laws that create barriers to reproductive health and rights. We will repeal the Hyde Amendment, and protect and codify the right to reproductive freedom. We condemn acts of violence, harassment, and intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients, and staff. We will address the discrimination and barriers that inhibit meaningful access to reproductive health care services, including those based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, income, disability, geography, and other factors. Democrats oppose restrictions on medication abortion care that are inconsistent with the most recent medical and scientific evidence and that do not protect public health.

We recognize that quality, affordable comprehensive health care; medically accurate, LGBTQ+ inclusive, age-appropriate sex education; and the full range of family planning services are all essential to ensuring that people can decide if, when, and how to start a family. We are proud to be the party of the Affordable Care Act, which prohibits discrimination in health care on the basis of sex and requires insurers to cover prescription contraceptives at no cost. These efforts have significantly reduced teen and unintended pregnancies by making it easier to decide whether, when, and how to have a child.

We believe that a person’s health should always come first. Democrats will protect the rights of all people to make personal health care decisions, and will reject the Trump Administration’s use of broad exemptions to allow medical providers, employers, and others to discriminate.

 

[schmidlap]

What freedom?
Roe gives the state the power to limit, restrict, regulate and in some instances ban abortions.

It mght very well be that red states pass laws that drive liberals out.
I am sure those states won't mind.

Advanced nations favor an individual's freedom, especially to control her own body.

Regressive nations arrogate an individual's freedoms to the State, and politicians, entirely ignorant of her circumstances, dictate to her.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yea. This is a link. The democratic platform you moron.

ACHIEVING UNIVERSAL, AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE - Democrats

democrats.org

Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice​

Democrats are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights, and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should be able to access high-quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion. We will repeal the Title X domestic gag rule and restore federal funding for Planned Parenthood, which provides vital preventive and reproductive health care for millions of people, especially low-income people, and people of color, and LGBTQ+ people, including in underserved areas.

Democrats oppose and will fight to overturn federal and state laws that create barriers to reproductive health and rights. We will repeal the Hyde Amendment, and protect and codify the right to reproductive freedom. We condemn acts of violence, harassment, and intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients, and staff. We will address the discrimination and barriers that inhibit meaningful access to reproductive health care services, including those based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, income, disability, geography, and other factors. Democrats oppose restrictions on medication abortion care that are inconsistent with the most recent medical and scientific evidence and that do not protect public health.

We recognize that quality, affordable comprehensive health care; medically accurate, LGBTQ+ inclusive, age-appropriate sex education; and the full range of family planning services are all essential to ensuring that people can decide if, when, and how to start a family. We are proud to be the party of the Affordable Care Act, which prohibits discrimination in health care on the basis of sex and requires insurers to cover prescription contraceptives at no cost. These efforts have significantly reduced teen and unintended pregnancies by making it easier to decide whether, when, and how to have a child.

We believe that a person’s health should always come first. Democrats will protect the rights of all people to make personal health care decisions, and will reject the Trump Administration’s use of broad exemptions to allow medical providers, employers, and others to discriminate.

Gee, the National Abortion Federation consists of, you guessed it, Democrats. The DNC wouldn't make any pro-abortion without first seeking guidance from people like this, or NARAL. Or any percieved experts on abortion, who would potentially support abortion on demand.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Advanced nations favor an individual's freedom, especially to control her own body.

Regressive nations arrogate an individual's freedoms to the State, and politicians, entirely ignorant of her circumstances, dictate to her.

Regressive:

A nation dictating for two years to women the choice of injecting a vaccine into their bodies, essentially robbing them of their bodily autonomy.

Guess who? The US. Every western nation (or 'advanced' nation).

So, how do you address this double standard?

 

[citygator]

Gee, the National Abortion Federation consists of, you guessed it, Democrats. The DNC wouldn't make any position on abortion without first seeking guidance from people like this, or NARAL. Or any percieved experts on abortion, who would potentially support abortion on demand.

Yet there is the platform in black and white.

 

[schmidlap]

Regressive:

A nation dictating for two years to women the choice of injecting a vaccine into their bodies, essentially robbing them of their bodily autonomy.

Guess who? The US. Every western nation (or 'advanced' nation).

So, how do you address this double standard?

If you need to pretend that, as a public health measure, vaccination against a deadly pandemic that offers a degree of protection for others, especially the most vulnerable, is comparable to depriving a citizen of personal freedom she has enjoyed for half a century, you will contrives such an absurd correspondence, I guess.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Actually abortion laws need to come to an end. The truth is there a medical decision and procedure that should only be decided by those involved the woman her doctor and significant other or husband if there is one. The courts have just complicated our lives in trying to interfere with them and control them. That is not their place. There is no criminal intent or activity here.

Well, how nice for you that you're going to finally get a chance to hold votes on doing exactly that.

You're welcome, and good luck with that.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yet there is the platform in black and white.

Which was advised by groups like the National Abortion Federation.

Why then, does the behavior of Democrats belie the position taken in that platform? Because none of them believe in the safety, legality, or rarity of abortion.

House Democrats Pass Extreme, Un-American Abortion Bill

The fact is, the measures in the Democrats' abortion-on-demand legislation are extreme, even for Americans who identify as "pro-choice."

www.newsweek.com