San Fransico Raises Min-wage to $15. Results in THIS:

[charwin95]

I just remember Don't Taz Me Bro posted the same topic about a week ago. Regarding SF workers being replaced by Ipad.

 

[SAYIT]

So to the naysayers, have you been complaining about the folks on food stamps who are making low wages?
You can't have it both ways, ya know!

No...Wanting both ways is when one makes zero effort to improve their education or skills then demands they be paid higher wages.

Spoon, did I anything about wanting it both ways? Nope.
Not that long ago, companies used to provide training to their employees to upgrade their skills, that was back when companies used to invest in their employees.
So now a low paid employee must find funds to pay for training to upgrade their skills. When they are making minimum wage, that can be quite tricky, no?
I see the GOP wants to cut funding for training programs. Well, that just adds another wall for those who want to better their skills and life.

Businesses still invest in productive employees who aspire to climb the ladder. I can't tell you how many times a softball game was more important to my people than their career.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I just remember Don't Taz Me Bro posted the same topic about a week ago. Regarding SF workers being replaced by Ipad.

Did that thread prove the feckless nature of the Ideological Left, too?

 

[SAYIT]

So to the naysayers, have you been complaining about the folks on food stamps who are making low wages?
You can't have it both ways, ya know!

No...Wanting both ways is when one makes zero effort to improve their education or skills then demands they be paid higher wages.

Spoon, did I anything about wanting it both ways? Nope.
Not that long ago, companies used to provide training to their employees to upgrade their skills, that was back when companies used to invest in their employees.
So now a low paid employee must find funds to pay for training to upgrade their skills. When they are making minimum wage, that can be quite tricky, no?
I see the GOP wants to cut funding for training programs. Well, that just adds another wall for those who want to better their skills and life.

I still provide training to my employees based on initiative. If they want to become obsolete that's their choice but most take classes and training to get advance.

Oh! Tell us of these training services you provide to allow your employees to advance!

Are you doubting that businesses invest in their productive peeps or just that charwin has done it?

 

[Political Junky]

I love how the same people who want everyone to get paid nothing also want no welfare and small government. Sorry but high wages are how you lower welfare and decrease the size of governent. All this increasing inequality is increasing government dependence and the size of government. Not to mention slowing the economy.

Their concern is with the business or corporation rather than the employee.

Artificially high wages - those not determined by productivity but rather gov't mandated - simply distort the economy creating inflationary pressure on prices which leave the poorest among us in exactly the same situation they are now.
The concern is always with balance and stability.

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

 

[Two Thumbs]

So, let me ask my fellow posters, what should the minimum wage be in San Francisco?
Question two, do you folks also complain about people on Food Stamps?

For 80 years you Klowns have been wrong about Min wage Bubs (as well as EVERYTHING else in your "reality")...

Kiwi is a liberal, so yea, you got it right in one posting, for a change

A loony lib in fact but Dad2 is so far down that socialist wabbit hole (or so far up his butt) he would find Karl Marx to be a hardcore RWer.

leftist support government tyranny until it affect one of their pet projects.

Take corporate welfare;

They hate it, and they should, but if you want to take money from PP, well you hate women and are war with them.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So to the naysayers, have you been complaining about the folks on food stamps who are making low wages?
You can't have it both ways, ya know!

No...Wanting both ways is when one makes zero effort to improve their education or skills then demands they be paid higher wages.

Spoon, did I anything about wanting it both ways? Nope.
Not that long ago, companies used to provide training to their employees to upgrade their skills, that was back when companies used to invest in their employees.
So now a low paid employee must find funds to pay for training to upgrade their skills. When they are making minimum wage, that can be quite tricky, no?
I see the GOP wants to cut funding for training programs. Well, that just adds another wall for those who want to better their skills and life.

I still provide training to my employees based on initiative. If they want to become obsolete that's their choice but most take classes and training to get advance.

Oh! Tell us of these training services you provide to allow your employees to advance!

Are you doubting that businesses invest in their productive peeps or just that charwin has done it?

Well truth be told, there's no actual 'doubt', per se. It is simply a statistical certainty that it doesn't. The challenge was advanced as a means to demonstrate that... again.


This based upon the core elements of the Ideological Left being "Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance".

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

All anyone needs to know about the Ideological Left can be learned in the prophecy OKA: Atlas Shrugged.

 

[RodISHI]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

What about them?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

ROFLMNAO!

How PRECIOUS... is THAT?

 

[boedicca]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Your logic circuits are on the fritz. I said nothing to the effect that poor people SHOULD EAT ALL fast food - but many do prefer to eat it quite often. Try finding a lawn in an inner city for teenagers to mow. There might be a couple in San Francisco, but not in poor neighborhoods...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Your logic circuits are on the fritz. I said nothing to the effect that poor people SHOULD EAT ALL fast food - but many do prefer to eat it quite often. Try finding a lawn in an inner city for teenagers to mow. There might be a couple in San Francisco, but not in poor neighborhoods...

Try finding a teen looking to cut lawns. (Here's a Clue: if there is one... he or she is some where NOT in an inner city. Because THAT principle rests in American principle and THAT is rarely, if ever, taught in the Land of the Lost,)

 

[RodISHI]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

ROFLMNAO!

How PRECIOUS... is THAT?

Looked to me like it wasn't bother anyone to pay those high prices in that video. Personally I'd just move

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Your logic circuits are on the fritz. I said nothing to the effect that poor people SHOULD EAT ALL fast food - but many do prefer to eat it quite often. Try finding a lawn in an inner city for teenagers to mow. There might be a couple in San Francisco, but not in poor neighborhoods...

So what do teenagers do in San Francisco if they don't have lawns? Are they just stuck in houses and apartments or what?

 

[SAYIT]

I love how the same people who want everyone to get paid nothing also want no welfare and small government. Sorry but high wages are how you lower welfare and decrease the size of governent. All this increasing inequality is increasing government dependence and the size of government. Not to mention slowing the economy.

Their concern is with the business or corporation rather than the employee.

Artificially high wages - those not determined by productivity but rather gov't mandated - simply distort the economy creating inflationary pressure on prices which leave the poorest among us in exactly the same situation they are now.
The concern is always with balance and stability.

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

The average CEO earns $180,000/yr.
Ever notice that NBA stars earn many times more than average players and rookies? That they all earn more than the average American worker?
Wonder why that is?
Answer: Supply and demand for TALENT.

 

[Political Junky]

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

What about them?

See the original post and what I was answering. Obviously, it makes little sense out of context, as you quoted it.

 

[boedicca]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

ROFLMNAO!

How PRECIOUS... is THAT?

Looked to me like it wasn't bother anyone to pay those high prices in that video. Personally I'd just move

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Your logic circuits are on the fritz. I said nothing to the effect that poor people SHOULD EAT ALL fast food - but many do prefer to eat it quite often. Try finding a lawn in an inner city for teenagers to mow. There might be a couple in San Francisco, but not in poor neighborhoods...

So what do teenagers do in San Francisco if they don't have lawns? Are they just stuck in houses and apartments or what?

Well, they certainly have less opportunities to get minimum wage jobs now that the rate has increased. The unemployment rate for teenagers is incredibly high, as anyone who looks at the BLS reports already knows.

Try reading something besides Huffpo and Vox once in awhile.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

What about them?

See the original post and what I was answering. Obviously, it makes little sense out of context, as you quoted it.

So envy is relevant?

To whom and why?

 

[RodISHI]

I love how the same people who want everyone to get paid nothing also want no welfare and small government. Sorry but high wages are how you lower welfare and decrease the size of governent. All this increasing inequality is increasing government dependence and the size of government. Not to mention slowing the economy.

Their concern is with the business or corporation rather than the employee.

Artificially high wages - those not determined by productivity but rather gov't mandated - simply distort the economy creating inflationary pressure on prices which leave the poorest among us in exactly the same situation they are now.
The concern is always with balance and stability.

Like the multimillion dollar salaries of CEOs?

The average CEO earns $180,000/yr.
Ever notice that NBA stars earn many times more than average players and rookies? That they all earn more than the average American worker?
Wonder why that is?

Once no one can afford the games they will either have to raise salaries or quit playing.

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

ROFLMNAO!

How PRECIOUS... is THAT?

Looked to me like it wasn't bother anyone to pay those high prices in that video. Personally I'd just move

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Your logic circuits are on the fritz. I said nothing to the effect that poor people SHOULD EAT ALL fast food - but many do prefer to eat it quite often. Try finding a lawn in an inner city for teenagers to mow. There might be a couple in San Francisco, but not in poor neighborhoods...

So what do teenagers do in San Francisco if they don't have lawns? Are they just stuck in houses and apartments or what?

Well, they certainly have less opportunities to get minimum wage jobs now that the rate has increased. The unemployment rate for teenagers is incredibly high, as anyone who looks at the BLS reports already knows.

Try reading something besides Huffpo and Vox once in awhile.

Never read either. Have not had Internet or TV for near 5-6 years now. Only used someone else's once in a while to check in on old friends and email. Working on catching up on things a bit at a time.

 

[SAYIT]

The Bay Area is an extremely expensive place to live.
$15 an hour is nothing there. When I graduated from high school I was living in Palo Alto and my summer job paid $3 more than the minimum wage in the early 80s.

All this increase in the minimum wage is accomplishing is two things:

- Less minimum wage jobs, which has an inordinate impact on teenagers who are denied the opportunity to develop good work habits.

- To make fast food and other high labor local good and services Much More Expensive, which impacts poor people the most.

Hopenchange!

Poor people should eat all fast food? or should they be fixing food at home? Teenagers can't mow lawns anymore or go around and offer to pull weeds, sweep or whatever?

Where did Bod claim that "Poor people should eat all fast food?" It is a well known fact that far more poor peeps eat FF than wealthy peeps. Push up the price of FF and the poor are hurt most.