Save Samer, he is dying’: Samer Issawi,a Palestinian hunger striker

[SherriMunnerlyn]

 

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[irosie91]

She presents baseless crap here---she depicts her fellow sluts
doing it in the streets good picture on the placard---blood
and all------who snapped that one? the RAPIST ?---just to prove
that he had succeeded ? Next ramadan--I will go to the part
of town where ----similar types line the streets dragging children
along ---in order to effectively panhandle. I am sure I can get
even BETTER pictures for you

 

[irosie91]

oh the same three sluts with the BIG BIG signs (I recognize the
red hat)

 

[irosie91]

There are those three sluts again

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Link to Protests Recorded by Protesters on Monday


freidapeeps on USTREAM: Human Being. Citizen Journalist covering People's Survival Program events, including: Community Peace Patrol; and Serve the Peop...

 

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[MHunterB]

Ya gotta love the sheer pretentiousness of these 'organizations'' names, LOL! They look really good on paper - quite mellifluous indeed.

 

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[MHunterB]

The Science of Starvation: How long can humans survive without food or water? | Obesity Panacea

One reason I am so skeptical about the claims being made of '160+ days' is that it is far outside the parameters suggested by nutritional science.

 

[syrenn]

is he fucking dead yet?

i call hoax if hes not dead by the end of the month.

 

[MHunterB]

Seven hour hunger strike in solidarity with Samer Al-Issawi in London | Demotix.com

Wow, seven whole hours without food. What dedication. Everyone who knows them must be so very proud.

 

[irosie91]

This HUGE PRODUCTION aimed at freeing terrorist
murderers does not live in a vacuum. There are lots
of the same level of criminals living in US jails. The
one the esteemed (sic) muslim brotherhood seeks
is disgusting murdering pig Shaykh Abdel Rahman--
lauded in the ummah and by some lawyers for murdering
seven americans ---whilst trying to topple the World
Trade Center onto lower Manhattan in 1993.

There are many more including charmers like
Nosair and Baz ---based on comments made to
me years ago by some wardens from the jail dense area
of upstate New York-----(home of sing sing)
the jails are PACKED with them. If this present
ongoing campaign to FREE THE MURDERERS
goes on TO VICTORY it is bound to spread to include
scum who live in our jails in the USA.

Its bad enough that the USA bears the cost of the
medical care of that end stage ever rotting
from the toes up SHAYKH that Morsi worships,
the cost of keeping hunger striking scum alive is
IMMENSE I propose charging the UMMAH
for the care of their hunger striking scum. Those
big giant mosques funded by saudi arabia can
be put on the auction block The USA does
not need any more problems with the budget
and certainly not the cost of MORE PROBLEMS
CREATED BY THE "isa respecters"

 

[RoccoR]

SherriMunnerlyn, et al,

Well, this difference has to do with the scope and nature of the conflict between the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance and Israel.

Partly right, but the part where you state detained until end of hostilities is not supported by any laws you provide a link to. Further, different rules for wars and occupations. And there is another important point to be made, the Occupation is unlawful. The UN Human Rights Council Special Rapporteur has addressed this in annual reports, indicating the illegality of the Occupation should be addressed by The International Court of Justice. Occupations were not intended to last forever, nor were they intended to include daily war crimes like the illegal settlements, for example. I will find that report again and address it in a subsequent post. I am not sure if it was a report by John Dugard or Richard Falk.

(COMMENT)

If the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance hostilities were limited to encounters with the "Occupation Force" (the IDF), then I would agree, that it is strictly a matter of the administration in the "Occupation."

But that does not seem to be the case. The Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance has the general goal of routing the Israeli Government and denying it the due security and sovereignty guaranteed by law.

HAMAS uses a different set of rules, and while Israel does not respond in a quid pro quo fashion, it should be noted by the Palestinians; that Israel is not nearly as primitive as the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance has demonstrated.

Witnesses say masked gunmen have publicly killed six suspected collaborators with Israel at a busy Gaza City intersection.

The Hamas military wing claimed responsibility.

Witnesses said the six men were pulled out of a van Tuesday, forced to lie face down on the street and then shot dead.

Five bodies lay in a pile as a mob stomped and spit on them. A sixth body was tied to a motorcycle and dragged through the streets as people screamed, “Spy! Spy!”
SOURCES:
Hamas gunmen execute six ‘Israeli spies’ as Netanyahu hints at cease-fire | Israel & Middle East | World | News | National Post
Gaza's motorcycle lynch mob: 'spies' executed, corpse dragged through streets

Israel, according the equivalent protected status to men like Samer Issawi, is a significant step higher than those protections accorder to Israeli prisoners by HAMAS. It is quite evident that HAMAS does not treat Israelis to the same degree as HAMAS; and HAMAS has used summary executions as something legal in the conflict.

Therefore, the question becomes: should it be the case that Israel should start execution of captured insurgents in the exact same fashion as HAMAS? Of course - it is completely out of the question, the Israelis are not nearly as so barbaric, uncivilized, and savage as the Palestinians.

Palestinian gunmen drag the body of a man who was killed as a suspected collaborator with Israel. Photo: AP​

What is the legal basis for the summary executions? And in this example, does it so designate a completely different level of hostility.

The Palestinians are conducting insurgent operations, not only in the Occupied Territories, but also into the sovereign Israeli territory. This is more than an anti-occupation campaign. The goal HAMAS is to obliterate Israel: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." Again, this is more than an anti-occupation campaign. This is a war threat and backed-up by actual attacks. It is a much larger campaign in scope. And the nature is much more barbaric and cruel.

In terms of the duration of the detention, Israel is making an attempt to comply with Occupation Law, to the degree that security is served. Obviously, repeat offenders and dedicated insurgents like Samer Issawi, who are conducting anti-occupation operations that place the security of Israeli interests at risk, will be held accordingly, (and not summary executed as is done by Palestinians).

Prisoners of war and civilian internees must be released without delay after the end of hostilities. However, those who are accused of an indictable offence may remain in captivity until the end of criminal proceedings or completion of their sentence (GC III, art. 119 (5), GC IV, art. 133 (2)). Until their release, and as long as they are under the authority of the occ upant, all those in custody remain protected by international humanitarian law (GC III, art. 5 (1) and GC IV, art. 6 (4)).
SOURCE: Occupation and international humanitarian law: questions and answers

I believe that Samer Issawi (and the other hunger strikers) should request the same fate and fair treatment as that the Palestinians demonstrated, supra.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

SherriMunnerlyn, et al,

Well, this difference has to do with the scope and nature of the conflict between the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance and Israel.

Partly right, but the part where you state detained until end of hostilities is not supported by any laws you provide a link to. Further, different rules for wars and occupations. And there is another important point to be made, the Occupation is unlawful. The UN Human Rights Council Special Rapporteur has addressed this in annual reports, indicating the illegality of the Occupation should be addressed by The International Court of Justice. Occupations were not intended to last forever, nor were they intended to include daily war crimes like the illegal settlements, for example. I will find that report again and address it in a subsequent post. I am not sure if it was a report by John Dugard or Richard Falk.

(COMMENT)

If the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance hostilities were limited to encounters with the "Occupation Force" (the IDF), then I would agree, that it is strictly a matter of the administration in the "Occupation."

But that does not seem to be the case. The Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance has the general goal of routing the Israeli Government and denying it the due security and sovereignty guaranteed by law.

HAMAS uses a different set of rules, and while Israel does not respond in a quid pro quo fashion, it should be noted by the Palestinians; that Israel is not nearly as primitive as the Palestinian/Arab/Persian Alliance has demonstrated.

Witnesses say masked gunmen have publicly killed six suspected collaborators with Israel at a busy Gaza City intersection.

The Hamas military wing claimed responsibility.

Witnesses said the six men were pulled out of a van Tuesday, forced to lie face down on the street and then shot dead.

Five bodies lay in a pile as a mob stomped and spit on them. A sixth body was tied to a motorcycle and dragged through the streets as people screamed, “Spy! Spy!”
SOURCES:
Hamas gunmen execute six ‘Israeli spies’ as Netanyahu hints at cease-fire | Israel & Middle East | World | News | National Post
Gaza's motorcycle lynch mob: 'spies' executed, corpse dragged through streets

Israel, according the equivalent protected status to men like Samer Issawi, is a significant step higher than those protections accorder to Israeli prisoners by HAMAS. It is quite evident that HAMAS does not treat Israelis to the same degree as HAMAS; and HAMAS has used summary executions as something legal in the conflict.

Therefore, the question becomes: should it be the case that Israel should start execution of captured insurgents in the exact same fashion as HAMAS? Of course - it is completely out of the question, the Israelis are not nearly as so barbaric, uncivilized, and savage as the Palestinians.

Palestinian gunmen drag the body of a man who was killed as a suspected collaborator with Israel. Photo: AP​

What is the legal basis for the summary executions? And in this example, does it so designate a completely different level of hostility.

The Palestinians are conducting insurgent operations, not only in the Occupied Territories, but also into the sovereign Israeli territory. This is more than an anti-occupation campaign. The goal HAMAS is to obliterate Israel: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." Again, this is more than an anti-occupation campaign. This is a war threat and backed-up by actual attacks. It is a much larger campaign in scope. And the nature is much more barbaric and cruel.

In terms of the duration of the detention, Israel is making an attempt to comply with Occupation Law, to the degree that security is served. Obviously, repeat offenders and dedicated insurgents like Samer Issawi, who are conducting anti-occupation operations that place the security of Israeli interests at risk, will be held accordingly, (and not summary executed as is done by Palestinians).

Prisoners of war and civilian internees must be released without delay after the end of hostilities. However, those who are accused of an indictable offence may remain in captivity until the end of criminal proceedings or completion of their sentence (GC III, art. 119 (5), GC IV, art. 133 (2)). Until their release, and as long as they are under the authority of the occ upant, all those in custody remain protected by international humanitarian law (GC III, art. 5 (1) and GC IV, art. 6 (4)).
SOURCE: Occupation and international humanitarian law: questions and answers

I believe that Samer Issawi (and the other hunger strikers) should request the same fate and fair treatment as that the Palestinians demonstrated, supra.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are inappropriately conflating unrelated conflicts with each other, the Occupation has been ongoing for over 45 years and Palestinians are lawfully resisting that Occupation under international law the same today as they did from the beginning, it is just tactics and methods of resistance that are ever changing. If they form alliances with others, or get outside help, so what? That is what all peoples do, involved in struggles against Colonialism and Occupation.

I was reading a message from Samer today that brought a smile to my face, he called all of us on the facebook protests warriors standing beside him in his struggle for freedom.

Samer Issawi has been charged with no new crimes, that is a fact that cannot be disputed, and thus international law clearly dictates his release.

I recognize that there are terror attacks carried out in this Occupation, and they are carried out by both sides. and I acknowledge those acts violate intl law. However, none of that changes the fact that the Palestinian people have the continuing right to resist their Occupation under intl law, and keep on resisting it, even with armed resistance, as long as that Occupation continues.

What is the OPT that Palestinians have sovereignty rights in? It includes East Jerusalem and the West Bank and Gaza. We have an International Court of justice confirming this.

It has not been established that these are the only lands Palestinians have sovereignty rights in. In 1947 and 1948, Israel began ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages and they seized lands, part of which included lands that were identified as part of The Arab/Palestinian State in the UN Partition Plan. It is not clear that Israel has sovereignty rights in those lands, there is no intl law that gives them sovereignty rights in those lands acquired through military conquest. In fact, the UN charter specifically states lands cannot be acquired in this fashion. Further issue raised, the UN Partion Plan was actually never fully implemented by the UN, so can Israel argue they have any lands under it?

One really has to conclude when one looks to international law to find claims of Israel for land in Palestine, it is really difficult to find a legal basis for Israel's claims for any land at all.

If the basis for land by Israel is the UN Partition Plan, then we should divide the land the way it was divided by that UN Partition Plan, and that means Israel must leave lands inside the OPT and other lands seized between 1947 and 1949 that were identified by the UN Partition Plan as part of The Palestinian State.

Now, as is obvious, when Hamas argues for lands inside the pre 1967 borders, we can all see they have a basis for such claims under intl law, some of the land or all of the land.

Now, why should they stop making their arguments for all of the land or additional land inside Israel pre 1967 borders, when intl law supports such claims, while the Occupation continues? Only a fool would do that, and they are not Fools.

Sherri

 

[irosie91]

There is no question that the jews who were in Gaza and in
cities of the west bank at the time of partition OF COURSE
have the right to resist the ongoing occupation of their lands
by "arab muslims" and to get "outside help" to do it
In fact there is no question that the jews of the land of
palestine in the 1800s had the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to get
"OUTSIDE HELP" to help them ward off the terrorist attacks
of arab muslims in palestine and neighboring lands and
the approximately 1000 year horrific oppressive
OCCUPATION OF THEIR LANDS----by invaders from arabia
and even KURDS (sala'adin was a kurd)

As to east jerusalem ----there is no question that the
unprovoked STARVATION and MURDER siege inflicted
on that jewish city by arab muslims (1947) with the help
ofcriminal elements from OUTSIDE neighboring lands
must be cleared of its OCCUPYING arab muslims and
declared completely under Israeli sovereignty ----thus
ending the present and intermittent disputed status of
that city over centuries
Thanks for clearing that up sherri.
I am particularly delighted that you debunked, FOREVER,
the claim of some nazi pigs that jews of european
background had "no right to go to the erstwhile palestine"
to HELP their bretheren already there fighting for survival in
the 1800s and that those who opposed that right are
(or were )
WAR CRIMINALS/-----among whom was the notorious
blood thirsty Al Husseini and all those asscociated with
his criminal enterprise -----
from nasser , thru saddam thru Bashir-----
in fact even ncluding CAIR which was originally a
machination of the blood thirsty war criminal SADDAAM


from evil to evil to evil
from constantine to the arabian
invasion of palestine----thu the bloody era of isa respecters
and christians drenching the land with the violence
of their hatred and OCCUPYING the land----to the
CALIPHATE ----and the glimmer of light occassioned
by a bit of greed on the part of the occupiers. The
occupying "caliphate" opened the gates to freedom
and justice by lifting the scourge of shariah and
SELLING LAND TO JEWS FOR ACTUAL OWNERSHIP.
It was a relatively momentary surge into civilization,
actually destroyed when by loss of the "caliphate"
of Ottoman control----the land fell into the barbaric
grip of local islamicist brutes who longed for the
brutality of shariah and the ideals of their ally
ADOLF ABU ALI ----

it is all fascinating ----Occupation---of the most
brutal genocidal kind----from constantine (circa
? 300AD) to Hamas------YES ---time to end it.

FOREVER ---ZION IS FREE AT LAST

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Here is an article today about Samer and the other hunger strikers.

Samer Al-Issawi: indomitable in the face of death

Samer Al-Issawi: indomitable in the face of death

More issues are raised, like the need to get this case of the illegal detentions of Palestinian prisoners before the international courts.

But we have the problem of The Palestinian Authority stalling, and questions raised about where their loyalties really lie.


"Whether he survives or not, Samer Al-Issawi has placed before the free world its moral, legal and political duties toward the Palestinians in Israeli jails. They may be "disappeared", but they're not forgotten. The newly-recognised State of Palestine is no less culpable. It must take the lead by activating the 2012 Baghdad Declaration at the UN for an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice on the legal status of the Palestinians in Israeli occupation jails. That should be followed by similar action within the International Criminal Court."

Sherri