Dragonlady
Designing Woman
- Dec 1, 2012
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Markle, that is silly as heck!Ohhhh......you say he's lying because he says he has "proof" of something.....but he hasn't told you what it is yet, so he's lying.
Chairman Adam Schiff has said for two years that he had EVIDENCE of President Donald Trump in collusion with Russia. If he had evidence, didn't it behoove him to share that evidence with the Special Investigator? NOT doing so, wouldn't that be obstruction of justice? Another term would be spoliation of evidence. Both are crimes, are they not?
"The spoliation of evidence is the intentional, reckless, or negligent withholding, hiding, altering, fabricating, or destroying of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding."
If Adam Schiff really does have EVIDENCE of collusion by President Donald Trump, especially as Chairman of the INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, shouldn't he be arrested? Try to be honest. Shouldn't he be arrested? Not just step down from his chairmanship but be arrested?
First, 'collusion' is not a crime. Trump and acolytes have been saying such for years...
Schiff spelled out what collusion took place in the hearing yesterday.... every single thing he mentioned, HAPPENED... maybe they are not a criminal conspiracy, but seemingly WRONG none the less... witting or unwittingly.
Right HERE are the things they did that are just shocking, and as said, we need to know what Mueller found out on them, and if he had determined why they did all of these things, whether criminal or not:
My colleagues might think it’s OK that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what’s described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign. You might think that’s OK.
“My colleagues might think it’s OK that when that was offered to the son of the president, who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI; he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help – no, instead that son said that he would ‘love’ the help with the Russians.
“You might think it’s OK that he took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair, someone with great experience running campaigns, also took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that the president’s son-in-law also took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that they concealed it from the public. You might think it’s OK that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn’t better. You might think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that when it was discovered, a year later, that they then lied about that meeting and said that it was about adoptions. You might think that it’s OK that it was reported that the president helped dictate that lie. You might think that’s OK. I don’t.
“You might think it’s OK that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness. You might think that’s OK, I don’t.
“You might think it’s OK that that campaign chairman offered polling data to someone linked to Russian intelligence. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that the president himself called on Russia to hack his opponent’s emails, if they were listening. You might think it’s OK that later that day, in fact, the Russians attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that the president’s son-in-law sought to establish a secret back channel of communication with the Russians through a Russian diplomatic facility. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that an associate of the president made direct contact with the GRU through Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks, that is considered a hostile intelligence agency. You might think it’s OK that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent.
“You might think it’s OK that the national security adviser designate secretly conferred with the Russian ambassador about undermining U.S. sanctions, and you might think it’s OK that he lied about it to the FBI.
“You might say that’s all OK, that’s just what you need to do to win. But I don’t think it’s OK. I don’t think it’s OK. I think it’s immoral, I think it’s unethical, I think it’s unpatriotic and, yes, I think it’s corrupt – and evidence of collusion.”
“Now I have always said that the question of whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter. Whether the special counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt the proof of that crime would be up to the special counsel, and I would accept his decision, and I do. He’s a good and honorable man, and he is a good prosecutor.
“But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is OK. And the day we do think that’s OK is the day we will look back and say that is the day that America lost its way.”
Under partisan fire, Adam Schiff presents his case without apology
WE ALL have a great public interest in knowing why all of these things occurred, why oh why oh why, did the Trump team, do all of those things that appear to be extremely, unethical and simply un-American, imo?
These are ALL THINGS known to the public through excellent reporting... they are not things Schiff released, these are knowns, not made up lies...
Adam Schiff stated, several times that he had evidence of collusion.
Today, Chairman Adam Schiff knows he is in deep trouble and is spinning furiously to bail himself out.
Your desperation is duly noted!
YOU are the ones who are spinning furiously to try to turn Trump's lies into truth. We've all seen the evidence of collusion, over and over. Did it cross the line of criminal conspiracy? Mueller says it didn't but we still haven't seen anything of what Mueller said, only what Barr said he said. And Barr was hired to cover Trump's ass so it's not like he has much credibility.