Schumer's pipe dream, a trial with.....you know.....evidence.

[The Original Tree]

He's not broken. He is a paid troll. He is here to disrupt discourse and debate.

You sure about that?

I would think that if someone were paying him, they would want him to post rational arguments and be persuasive, not sound like a jabbering retard with a wet diaper on living in a basement parroting insipid shit he heard on MSLSD.

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It's hard to find someone that is willing to lie 24-7 and sell out for an eternity to Hell. So being sane is not a requirement on the application.

 

[The Original Tree]

After what the IG report exposed, a sane nation would terminate the FBI. It’s pretty clear they are terribly corrupt and committed criminal acts, but than the entire federal government is corrupt.

Let's see if we can keep Greenwald's attention getting, flame throwing about the FBI separate from the impeachment......shall we.

I mean, I know the facts about Trump's actions are the last thing you folks want to talk about but try to keep the attempts at diversion down to a minimum.

No we shall not. It’s clear the FBI committed crimes. They should be terminated, but big government always protects it own.

If Trump had any brains, he would be demanding the resignations of everyone in the FBI.

What happened to the Left? They used to be skeptical of government power, the war machine, the intelligence agencies. Not any more. Trump has broken their brains.

Sorry, not relevant to the thread.

That’s ridiculous. Your hatred of Donnie has broken your brain.

Think. Think.

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

Why can't it be more about our hatred of you, an your love of hairy man butt?

 

[Pete7469]

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

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[hadit]

I'd guess, it depends largely on whether or not McConnell is confident to have 51 Senators behind his White House-coordinated spectacle, no ifs or buts. ?

Yes, how wily and shrewd of Trump to have planted those 14 no-witness "witnesses" before those House Committees, in order to get this spectacle running at full steam!

I admit to being frustrated with the constant refrain there are "no facts" and "no evidence" when the opposite is true.
Have you asked yourself why Trump won't allow the people who presumably could defend him from testifying? If he is innocent as he claims why keep all those people from testifying and why prevent the documents from being handed over?

There are many reasons why. Primary among them is to not lend any credibility to the farce. It was clear from the beginning that the democrats had no intentions of truly investigating anything, they were determined to impeach and were just looking for an excuse. Then when they trotted out second hand information from people who witnessed nothing but only heard about stuff, there was no reason to allow any of them to talk. Now, since we're playing the "why did they do it" game, why did Schiff not go to court to compel them to appear? Obviously, he knew it blow up in his face if he did, right?

 

[colfax_m]

Let's see if we can keep Greenwald's attention getting, flame throwing about the FBI separate from the impeachment......shall we.

I mean, I know the facts about Trump's actions are the last thing you folks want to talk about but try to keep the attempts at diversion down to a minimum.

No we shall not. It’s clear the FBI committed crimes. They should be terminated, but big government always protects it own.

If Trump had any brains, he would be demanding the resignations of everyone in the FBI.

What happened to the Left? They used to be skeptical of government power, the war machine, the intelligence agencies. Not any more. Trump has broken their brains.

Sorry, not relevant to the thread.

That’s ridiculous. Your hatred of Donnie has broken your brain.

Think. Think.

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

Why can't it be more about our hatred of you, an your love of hairy man butt?

I get it. When you can't rationally discuss the topic, post something offensive. Classic.

 

[colfax_m]

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

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You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

 

[berg80]

"According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath: "I solemnly swear [or affirm, as the case may be] that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Commenting on the clause, Tulis said "the Constitution asks them to remember that they are not sitting as senators, but now as judges and jurors."

"So much so that for this brief period the senators are all equal," the professor added. "For the duration of the trial the Senate is a literally new institution with new rules, new norms, and new responsibilities."
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McTreason has disqualified himself from participating in the Senate trial. So has Graham.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial
The Senate Democratic leader wants to seek testimony from Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other White House officials, and subpoena documents the White House has withheld.
Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial

WASHINGTON — As the House prepared to make President Trump only the third president in American history to be impeached, the Senate’s top Democrat on Sunday laid out a detailed proposal for a Senate trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly” — including subpoenas for documents the White House has withheld and witnesses it has prevented from testifying.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, presented the proposal in a letter to his Republican counterpart, Senator Mitch McConnell, in an opening move to force Republicans to negotiate over the shape and scope of the proceedings. Mr. McConnell had said last week that he was “taking my cues” from the White House, prompting Democrats to accuse him of abandoning his duty to render “impartial justice” in the trial.

In the letter, Mr. Schumer proposed a trial beginning Jan. 7 that would give each side a fixed amount of time to present its case, and called for four top White House officials who have not previously testified — including Mick Mulvaney, Mr. Trump’s acting chief of staff, and John R. Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser — to appear as witnesses.

Mr. Schumer also called for the Senate to subpoena documents that could shed light on the events at the heart of the charges against Mr. Trump: his campaign to enlist Ukraine to investigate his political rivals. And he set forth a specific timetable for each side to present its case, modeled on the one used when President Bill Clinton was tried in 1999. Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.
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Chuck should know better by now than to think McTurtle has an interest in anything approximating the kind of deliberative trial the Senate is obligated conduct. This is why it was so important for Trump's specious narrative of an unfair process in the House to have been spewed (just as it was equally important to make the similarly, objectively false accusations about the Mueller probe). All the trained seals repeat the sham process lie endlessly and will keep doing so all through the phony process Mitch is about to orchestrate in close consultation with the WH (Mitch has adopted the Trumpian strategy of violating rules, ethics, and law right out in the open). Why does McTreason think he can get away with it? Because he knows from experience The Following will swallow any ball of shit he feeds them. They rather like it.

You have evidence now? Lol

They don't have any evidence. This is bout subterfuge, obfuscating , and ambiguity.

 

[Oddball]

He's not broken. He is a paid troll. He is here to disrupt discourse and debate.

You sure about that?

I would think that if someone were paying him, they would want him to post rational arguments and be persuasive, not sound like a jabbering retard with a wet diaper on living in a basement parroting insipid shit he heard on MSLSD.

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Skews is a paid poster for Daily Kooks and he's no more coherent than this nutbar.

 

[Oddball]

"According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath: "I solemnly swear [or affirm, as the case may be] that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Commenting on the clause, Tulis said "the Constitution asks them to remember that they are not sitting as senators, but now as judges and jurors."

"So much so that for this brief period the senators are all equal," the professor added. "For the duration of the trial the Senate is a literally new institution with new rules, new norms, and new responsibilities."
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McTreason has disqualified himself from participating in the Senate trial. So has Graham.

Where in the criminal code (y'know, the LAWS) is "obstruction of congress" and "abuse of power"?

 

[Pete7469]

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

Indeed the American people need to hear all the facts, and part of the FACTS include people acting out of partisan hatred within the FBI, DOJ, DNC and other agencies that have committed felonies in order to tarnish a President that is doing a damn fine job.

I'm hoping like hell the voters are paying attention and the DNC is totally trounced in 2020, so that Trump can get rid of the thousands of treasonous liberal pieces of shit that are deliberately destroying the country from within the very government itself.

Let those assholes all go to work for CNN.

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[Oddball]

I'd guess, it depends largely on whether or not McConnell is confident to have 51 Senators behind his White House-coordinated spectacle, no ifs or buts. ?

Yes, how wily and shrewd of Trump to have planted those 14 no-witness "witnesses" before those House Committees, in order to get this spectacle running at full steam!

I admit to being frustrated with the constant refrain there are "no facts" and "no evidence" when the opposite is true.
Have you asked yourself why Trump won't allow the people who presumably could defend him from testifying? If he is innocent as he claims why keep all those people from testifying and why prevent the documents from being handed over?

Because western law, established over the course of the last several centuries, says that he is under no obligation to prove negatives, uncle Josef.

I'm here to help.

 

[colfax_m]

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

Indeed the American people need to hear all the facts, and part of the FACTS include people acting out of partisan hatred within the FBI, DOJ, DNC and other agencies that have committed felonies in order to tarnish a President that is doing a damn fine job.

I'm hoping like hell the voters are paying attention and the DNC is totally trounced in 2020, so that Trump can get rid of the thousands of treasonous liberal pieces of shit that are deliberately destroying the country from within the very government itself.

Let those assholes all go to work for CNN.

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I think the IG report did an excellent job giving facts from an unbiased source.

The question is whether we will get facts about Trump or if they will remain hidden from the voter.

 

[gipper]

After what the IG report exposed, a sane nation would terminate the FBI. It’s pretty clear they are terribly corrupt and committed criminal acts, but than the entire federal government is corrupt.

Let's see if we can keep Greenwald's attention getting, flame throwing about the FBI separate from the impeachment......shall we.

I mean, I know the facts about Trump's actions are the last thing you folks want to talk about but try to keep the attempts at diversion down to a minimum.

No we shall not. It’s clear the FBI committed crimes. They should be terminated, but big government always protects it own.

If Trump had any brains, he would be demanding the resignations of everyone in the FBI.

What happened to the Left? They used to be skeptical of government power, the war machine, the intelligence agencies. Not any more. Trump has broken their brains.

Sorry, not relevant to the thread.

That’s ridiculous. Your hatred of Donnie has broken your brain.

Think. Think.

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

LOL.

 

[berg80]

Judiciary Committee impeachment report alleges Trump committed 'multiple federal crimes'
Judiciary Committee impeachment report alleges Trump committed 'multiple federal crimes'



“Although President Trump’s actions need not rise to the level of a criminal violation to justify impeachment, his conduct here was criminal,” the panel’s Democrats argue, labeling Trump’s behavior “both constitutional and criminal in character” and contending that the president “betrayed the people of this nation” and should be removed from office.

The staff report, which was filed to the House Rules Committee just after midnight Monday, argues that Trump directed a months-long scheme to solicit foreign interference in the 2020 election, the allegation that forms the core of the two articles of impeachment — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress — approved by the Judiciary Committee last week. Democrats emphasized that proving a criminal violation is not required to justify impeachment.

 

[hadit]

“The moment Senator McConnell takes the oath of impartiality required by the Constitution, he will be in violation of that oath,” Representative Val B. Demings, Democrat of Florida, said on Friday.

At the start of the trial, the Constitution requires the senators to take an oath. Current Senate rules say that oath includes: “I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God.”

They are supposed to pretend the House proceedings never took place? IOW, they've seen the show trial, and they see that the evidence is laughably weak.

 

[hadit]

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

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You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

 

[Oddball]

Judiciary Committee impeachment report alleges Trump committed 'multiple federal crimes'
Judiciary Committee impeachment report alleges Trump committed 'multiple federal crimes'



“Although President Trump’s actions need not rise to the level of a criminal violation to justify impeachment, his conduct here was criminal,” the panel’s Democrats argue, labeling Trump’s behavior “both constitutional and criminal in character” and contending that the president “betrayed the people of this nation” and should be removed from office.

The staff report, which was filed to the House Rules Committee just after midnight Monday, argues that Trump directed a months-long scheme to solicit foreign interference in the 2020 election, the allegation that forms the core of the two articles of impeachment — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress — approved by the Judiciary Committee last week. Democrats emphasized that proving a criminal violation is not required to justify impeachment.

Yet not a one of these "multiple federal crimes" is spelled out with specificity in the articles of impeachment.

But....

 

[colfax_m]

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

.

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

What makes you think that they can't call witnesses and subpoena documents that were obstructed from reaching the House?

 

[berg80]

This is a thread on impeachment, not your hatred of the FBI.

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

.

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

But..........that's not true at all. Trump's illegal obstruction prevented a lot of pertinent testimony and access to documents the Dems want to have placed in evidence.