Schumer's pipe dream, a trial with.....you know.....evidence.

[Superbadbrutha]

The DEM led House of Representatives holding their inquiry behind closed doors without a chance for their witnesses to be cross examined.

LIAR!
The Republiscum had EQUAL time to cross examine EVERY witness.
When the worthless lying scum Right tell such obvious lies they expose the fact that they themselves KNOW they are WRONG!

No they didn’t.

Yes they did, and YOU know it, just read the online transcripts and you can see EVERY lying Republiscum had the exact same time to question each witness as the Dems.

Like I said when the worthless lying scum Right tell such obvious lies they expose the fact that they themselves KNOW they are WRONG!

Dems interviewing gov officials in a closet is not exactly a fair process.
Hillary lost, get over it or move to your NewSSR.

Were Republicans in that closet as well?

 

[Mac-7]

He is

Nope, he didn't. If was illegal for him to solicit a foreign national to investigate a political rival.

Thats kangaroo court injustice

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

You're ineducable, huh? No, Trump is not the chief law enforcement officer and while he can appoint or fire the Attorney General, he can't force them to investigate whomever he wants. He can ask them and they might but they are not obliged to do so.

True

Trump cant force anyone to do anything

No one has that authority except God

And even He chooses to allow us free will

But trump has responsibility for enforcing the laws

 

[hadit]

Any of the witnesses that Nadler wouldn't allow to 'testify' while this mess was being heard in the House.

For example?

Who should be on that stand if not Mulveney who held up the aid on Trump's orders, or Juliani who was SMACK MIDDLE OF THE ENTIRE THING and who Trump referred EVERYONE to deal with including the President of Ukraine?

You want to get to the truth you ask the people involved, not put up sideshow about people who had nothing to do with real-time events this whole thing is about.

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Because there are legal remedies to resolve the issue.

 

[colfax_m]

Then Trump should have gone about it in a legal manner.

He is

Nope, he didn't. If was illegal for him to solicit a foreign national to investigate a political rival.

Thats kangaroo court injustice

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

 

[Mac-7]

He is

Nope, he didn't. If was illegal for him to solicit a foreign national to investigate a political rival.

Thats kangaroo court injustice

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

 

[Meister]

Sen. Schumer: If Republicans refuse witnesses they’re 'engaged in a cover-up'
Sen. Schumer: If Republicans refuse witnesses they’re 'engaged in a cover-up'


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Bwuhahahahahaha......


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The witnesses Schumer wanted were actually germane to the issue. The witnesses House Republicans wanted except for 2 were not germane to the issue. The germane witnesses did testify. They didn't help Trump at all.

Well, aren't you the one to judge what is pertinent and what isn't.
The whistleblower and Schiff were very germane to the case, no matter what your
Cracker Jack box law degree tells you.
idiot

I am a better judge than you as I did not vote for either Trump or Clinton.
The whistleblower was not needed and Schiff is not germane. You don't need a law degree to see that.

Bless your heart, child.
The person who brought the issue up IS germane no matter who you voted for. Also, Schiff and his shenanigans
does become relevant no matter who you voted for.

 

[colfax_m]

Nope, he didn't. If was illegal for him to solicit a foreign national to investigate a political rival.

Thats kangaroo court injustice

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

Rudy is his private lawyer who is not and can not enforce laws.

Trump has not communicated any order to the DoJ to investigate this issue so Durham is not working on it.

 

[Mac-7]

Thats kangaroo court injustice

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

Rudy is his private lawyer who is not and can not enforce laws.

Trump has not communicated any order to the DoJ to investigate this issue so Durham is not working on it.

Rudy can investigate crimes

 

[CWayne]

Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial
The Senate Democratic leader wants to seek testimony from Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other White House officials, and subpoena documents the White House has withheld.
Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial

WASHINGTON — As the House prepared to make President Trump only the third president in American history to be impeached, the Senate’s top Democrat on Sunday laid out a detailed proposal for a Senate trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly” — including subpoenas for documents the White House has withheld and witnesses it has prevented from testifying.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, presented the proposal in a letter to his Republican counterpart, Senator Mitch McConnell, in an opening move to force Republicans to negotiate over the shape and scope of the proceedings. Mr. McConnell had said last week that he was “taking my cues” from the White House, prompting Democrats to accuse him of abandoning his duty to render “impartial justice” in the trial.

In the letter, Mr. Schumer proposed a trial beginning Jan. 7 that would give each side a fixed amount of time to present its case, and called for four top White House officials who have not previously testified — including Mick Mulvaney, Mr. Trump’s acting chief of staff, and John R. Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser — to appear as witnesses.

Mr. Schumer also called for the Senate to subpoena documents that could shed light on the events at the heart of the charges against Mr. Trump: his campaign to enlist Ukraine to investigate his political rivals. And he set forth a specific timetable for each side to present its case, modeled on the one used when President Bill Clinton was tried in 1999. Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.
.....................................................................................................................................
Chuck should know better by now than to think McTurtle has an interest in anything approximating the kind of deliberative trial the Senate is obligated conduct. This is why it was so important for Trump's specious narrative of an unfair process in the House to have been spewed (just as it was equally important to make the similarly, objectively false accusations about the Mueller probe). All the trained seals repeat the sham process lie endlessly and will keep doing so all through the phony process Mitch is about to orchestrate in close consultation with the WH (Mitch has adopted the Trumpian strategy of violating rules, ethics, and law right out in the open). Why does McTreason think he can get away with it? Because he knows from experience The Following will swallow any ball of shit he feeds them. They rather like it.

You have evidence now? Lol

So.......you haven't been paying attention. Not that I blame you. The evidence is all bad for the Orange Messiah. There's more of it too. But the Obstructionist-in-Chief is keeping it from being revealed.

You missed the point. There is no evidence. Only opinion and hearsay. That is NOT evidence.

 

[berg80]

A poll released Tuesday by ABC News and The Washington Post found that about 7 in 10 Americans think the administration officials should be able to testify. In an example of bipartisan agreement, 79% of Democrats, 64% of Republicans and 72% of independents agree that Trump should allow them to appear in a Senate trial in the likely event that the House votes to impeach him.

Why won't he let the witnesses speak?

 

[colfax_m]

Since when are we cool with politicians directing investigations against their rivals? That’s some real corrupt Soviet tactics right there.

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

Rudy is his private lawyer who is not and can not enforce laws.

Trump has not communicated any order to the DoJ to investigate this issue so Durham is not working on it.

Rudy can investigate crimes

He sure can. As a private lawyer working on behalf of the private client, Donald Trump.

I thought you said this was about enforcing laws? Seems like it’s more of a private matter, which is exactly what I’ve been saying.

 

[berg80]

Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial
The Senate Democratic leader wants to seek testimony from Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other White House officials, and subpoena documents the White House has withheld.
Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial

WASHINGTON — As the House prepared to make President Trump only the third president in American history to be impeached, the Senate’s top Democrat on Sunday laid out a detailed proposal for a Senate trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly” — including subpoenas for documents the White House has withheld and witnesses it has prevented from testifying.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, presented the proposal in a letter to his Republican counterpart, Senator Mitch McConnell, in an opening move to force Republicans to negotiate over the shape and scope of the proceedings. Mr. McConnell had said last week that he was “taking my cues” from the White House, prompting Democrats to accuse him of abandoning his duty to render “impartial justice” in the trial.

In the letter, Mr. Schumer proposed a trial beginning Jan. 7 that would give each side a fixed amount of time to present its case, and called for four top White House officials who have not previously testified — including Mick Mulvaney, Mr. Trump’s acting chief of staff, and John R. Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser — to appear as witnesses.

Mr. Schumer also called for the Senate to subpoena documents that could shed light on the events at the heart of the charges against Mr. Trump: his campaign to enlist Ukraine to investigate his political rivals. And he set forth a specific timetable for each side to present its case, modeled on the one used when President Bill Clinton was tried in 1999. Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.
.....................................................................................................................................
Chuck should know better by now than to think McTurtle has an interest in anything approximating the kind of deliberative trial the Senate is obligated conduct. This is why it was so important for Trump's specious narrative of an unfair process in the House to have been spewed (just as it was equally important to make the similarly, objectively false accusations about the Mueller probe). All the trained seals repeat the sham process lie endlessly and will keep doing so all through the phony process Mitch is about to orchestrate in close consultation with the WH (Mitch has adopted the Trumpian strategy of violating rules, ethics, and law right out in the open). Why does McTreason think he can get away with it? Because he knows from experience The Following will swallow any ball of shit he feeds them. They rather like it.

You have evidence now? Lol

So.......you haven't been paying attention. Not that I blame you. The evidence is all bad for the Orange Messiah. There's more of it too. But the Obstructionist-in-Chief is keeping it from being revealed.

You missed the point. There is no evidence. Only opinion and hearsay. That is NOT evidence.

You are lying.

 

[CWayne]

Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial
The Senate Democratic leader wants to seek testimony from Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other White House officials, and subpoena documents the White House has withheld.
Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial

WASHINGTON — As the House prepared to make President Trump only the third president in American history to be impeached, the Senate’s top Democrat on Sunday laid out a detailed proposal for a Senate trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly” — including subpoenas for documents the White House has withheld and witnesses it has prevented from testifying.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, presented the proposal in a letter to his Republican counterpart, Senator Mitch McConnell, in an opening move to force Republicans to negotiate over the shape and scope of the proceedings. Mr. McConnell had said last week that he was “taking my cues” from the White House, prompting Democrats to accuse him of abandoning his duty to render “impartial justice” in the trial.

In the letter, Mr. Schumer proposed a trial beginning Jan. 7 that would give each side a fixed amount of time to present its case, and called for four top White House officials who have not previously testified — including Mick Mulvaney, Mr. Trump’s acting chief of staff, and John R. Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser — to appear as witnesses.

Mr. Schumer also called for the Senate to subpoena documents that could shed light on the events at the heart of the charges against Mr. Trump: his campaign to enlist Ukraine to investigate his political rivals. And he set forth a specific timetable for each side to present its case, modeled on the one used when President Bill Clinton was tried in 1999. Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.
.....................................................................................................................................
Chuck should know better by now than to think McTurtle has an interest in anything approximating the kind of deliberative trial the Senate is obligated conduct. This is why it was so important for Trump's specious narrative of an unfair process in the House to have been spewed (just as it was equally important to make the similarly, objectively false accusations about the Mueller probe). All the trained seals repeat the sham process lie endlessly and will keep doing so all through the phony process Mitch is about to orchestrate in close consultation with the WH (Mitch has adopted the Trumpian strategy of violating rules, ethics, and law right out in the open). Why does McTreason think he can get away with it? Because he knows from experience The Following will swallow any ball of shit he feeds them. They rather like it.

You have evidence now? Lol

So.......you haven't been paying attention. Not that I blame you. The evidence is all bad for the Orange Messiah. There's more of it too. But the Obstructionist-in-Chief is keeping it from being revealed.

You missed the point. There is no evidence. Only opinion and hearsay. That is NOT evidence.

You are lying.

Sure, you roll with that.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.

Bill was charged with actual CRIMES.

Bill Clinton cheated on his wife.
Donald Trump sold out his country.
Which crime is more serious, in terms of the security of the United States?

 

[easyt65]

Any of the witnesses that Nadler wouldn't allow to 'testify' while this mess was being heard in the House.

For example?

Who should be on that stand if not Mulveney who held up the aid on Trump's orders, or Juliani who was SMACK MIDDLE OF THE ENTIRE THING and who Trump referred EVERYONE to deal with including the President of Ukraine?

You want to get to the truth you ask the people involved, not put up sideshow about people who had nothing to do with real-time events this whole thing is about.

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Any of the witnesses that Nadler wouldn't allow to 'testify' while this mess was being heard in the House.

For example?

Who should be on that stand if not Mulveney who held up the aid on Trump's orders, or Juliani who was SMACK MIDDLE OF THE ENTIRE THING and who Trump referred EVERYONE to deal with including the President of Ukraine?

You want to get to the truth you ask the people involved, not put up sideshow about people who had nothing to do with real-time events this whole thing is about.

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Hold up what process? The 3.5 year on-going illegal, baseless coup attempt they called for prior to Trump's inauguration.

The fact that they promised to do this, spent 3.5 years trying to do it, broke laws, violated the Constitution, trampled rights, and endangered national security to do it says it all.

 

[WillowTree]

The DEM led House of Representatives holding their inquiry behind closed doors without a chance for their witnesses to be cross examined.

LIAR!
The Republiscum had EQUAL time to cross examine EVERY witness.
When the worthless lying scum Right tell such obvious lies they expose the fact that they themselves KNOW they are WRONG!

No they didn’t.

Yes they did, and YOU know it, just read the online transcripts and you can see EVERY lying Republiscum had the exact same time to question each witness as the Dems.

Like I said when the worthless lying scum Right tell such obvious lies they expose the fact that they themselves KNOW they are WRONG!

Dems interviewing gov officials in a closet is not exactly a fair process.
Hillary lost, get over it or move to your NewSSR.

Were Republicans in that closet as well?

No

 

[Mac-7]

So is adam schiff obtaining the phone records of republican politicians

Trump is the chief law enforcement officer and he can investigate wrongdoing by anyone

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

Rudy is his private lawyer who is not and can not enforce laws.

Trump has not communicated any order to the DoJ to investigate this issue so Durham is not working on it.

Rudy can investigate crimes

He sure can. As a private lawyer working on behalf of the private client, Donald Trump.

I thought you said this was about enforcing laws? Seems like it’s more of a private matter, which is exactly what I’ve been saying.

Trump can have rudi investigate wrongdoing bt US government officials in a foreign country

Particularly when he does not trust the Deep State within the DOJ

 

[Mac-7]

Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.

Bill was charged with actual CRIMES.

Bill Clinton cheated on his wife.
Donald Trump sold out his country.
Which crime is more serious, in terms of the security of the United States?

Thats a lie

Trump did not sell out the country

 

[Meister]

A poll released Tuesday by ABC News and The Washington Post found that about 7 in 10 Americans think the administration officials should be able to testify. In an example of bipartisan agreement, 79% of Democrats, 64% of Republicans and 72% of independents agree that Trump should allow them to appear in a Senate trial in the likely event that the House votes to impeach him.

Why won't he let the witnesses speak?

A news poll now supersedes law? got it
If the Clown Show wanted the witnesses, they should have slowed down and used the courts.
Instead, they wanted a 100 yard dash instead of a marathon. How long was the Clinton Impeachment process?

But, you do bring up a good point, why couldn't the republicans bring their witnesses
in the House? Why wouldn't Schiff let THEM speak?

 

[colfax_m]

Trump isn’t investigating anything. He’s telling Ukraine to do it for him. Wonder why.

Trump has Rudy and Durham among others working on that

Rudy is his private lawyer who is not and can not enforce laws.

Trump has not communicated any order to the DoJ to investigate this issue so Durham is not working on it.

Rudy can investigate crimes

He sure can. As a private lawyer working on behalf of the private client, Donald Trump.

I thought you said this was about enforcing laws? Seems like it’s more of a private matter, which is exactly what I’ve been saying.

Trump can have rudi investigate wrongdoing bt US government officials in a foreign country

Particularly when he does not trust the Deep State within the DOJ

He can but you can’t claim it has anything to do with law enforcement.