Schumer's pipe dream, a trial with.....you know.....evidence.

[WillowTree]

And the cud chewer isn’t even presiding over the body today, flocking coward.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wants the Senate trial to be limited to only what the House presented. He says that’s only fair. He’s an idiot.



it was just on TV. I will add link as soon as it becomes available.

Actually the idea is to put up a link WHEN it becomes available. Before that it's just hot air connected to nothing. The void.

What's the point here anyway? Why WOULDN'T* such a trial be limited to what's presented? Where have you ever seen a trial that ventures off into shit not presented?

(* And no "would" still does not mean "wouldn't".)

You mean like the House impeachment that presented zero evidence of a crime and now MUST Drop the "obstruction" charge?

 

[colfax_m]

He can but you can’t claim it has anything to do with law enforcement.

I do claim its about law enforcement

Rudy can’t enforce the law. He can’t indict or prosecute. Not without being approved by the Senate. He has no authority. No force of government behind him. And most importantly, he has no accountability. The government cannot launch investigations without cause. Investigating without cause is violating civil rights. If Rudy were acting on behalf of the government, he would have to follow the rules.

He’s not.

Now you are repeating yourself

Rudy can investigate criminal activity

I’m listening to you repeat yourself.

Anyone can investigate criminal activity. Only the government can enforce laws. Rudy is not part of the government.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

 

[Mac-7]

I do claim its about law enforcement

Rudy can’t enforce the law. He can’t indict or prosecute. Not without being approved by the Senate. He has no authority. No force of government behind him. And most importantly, he has no accountability. The government cannot launch investigations without cause. Investigating without cause is violating civil rights. If Rudy were acting on behalf of the government, he would have to follow the rules.

He’s not.

Now you are repeating yourself

Rudy can investigate criminal activity

I’m listening to you repeat yourself.

Anyone can investigate criminal activity. Only the government can enforce laws. Rudy is not part of the government.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

 

[colfax_m]

Rudy can’t enforce the law. He can’t indict or prosecute. Not without being approved by the Senate. He has no authority. No force of government behind him. And most importantly, he has no accountability. The government cannot launch investigations without cause. Investigating without cause is violating civil rights. If Rudy were acting on behalf of the government, he would have to follow the rules.

He’s not.

Now you are repeating yourself

Rudy can investigate criminal activity

I’m listening to you repeat yourself.

Anyone can investigate criminal activity. Only the government can enforce laws. Rudy is not part of the government.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

 

[Mac-7]

Now you are repeating yourself

Rudy can investigate criminal activity

I’m listening to you repeat yourself.

Anyone can investigate criminal activity. Only the government can enforce laws. Rudy is not part of the government.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

No he doesent

 

[colfax_m]

I’m listening to you repeat yourself.

Anyone can investigate criminal activity. Only the government can enforce laws. Rudy is not part of the government.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

No he doesent

How is Rudy enforcing the law without any government authority?

 

[Mac-7]

Rudy does not have to be part of the government to serve the national interests

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

No he doesent

How is Rudy enforcing the law without any government authority?

Anyone can seek the truth

 

[colfax_m]

You’re playing semantics.
He has to be part of the government to enforce the law. He’s not part of the government. He’s not enforcing law.

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

No he doesent

How is Rudy enforcing the law without any government authority?

Anyone can seek the truth

You’re avoiding answering the question.

I’m done. Thanks.

 

[Mac-7]

Rudy does not have to be part of the government

He does if he wants to pretend he’s enforcing the law. Here’s a hint. Rudy is not saying that. That’s your argument.

No he doesent

How is Rudy enforcing the law without any government authority?

Anyone can seek the truth

You’re avoiding answering the question.

I’m done. Thanks.

You have been done for quite some time but just didnt know it

 

[JusticeHammer]

Demoncraps are idiots, they prove it everyday. All of a sudden schmucky wants to force the Republicans in the Senate to do what the scum demoncraps wouldn't do in the house. You idiots are corrupt.

So, McConnell, the mendacious clown, shat right into your mouth, and you thought you'd look oh-so smart spitting it all out in here, didn't you, JustlyHammered?

You just proved my point. Obviously smarter than you.

 

[bripat9643]

Whistleblowers (Really Criminals who filed False Reports).

The IG found the report CREDIBLE, and I will take over lying scum like you and Tramp!

No he didn't, moron.

Yes he did, LIAR!

How stupid can you be? The entire report was about everything wrong with the FISA warrant. Horowitz outlined how even the guy who was the source for the Steele "dossier" said it was a piece of crap.

 

[berg80]

McTurtle's most cynical deceit was to describe the Senate trial as an entirely partisan exercise. It doesn't have to be, but since NOT A SINGLE Repub will base their vote on the overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt, it will be.

 

[bripat9643]

Any of the witnesses that Nadler wouldn't allow to 'testify' while this mess was being heard in the House.

For example?

Who should be on that stand if not Mulveney who held up the aid on Trump's orders, or Juliani who was SMACK MIDDLE OF THE ENTIRE THING and who Trump referred EVERYONE to deal with including the President of Ukraine?

You want to get to the truth you ask the people involved, not put up sideshow about people who had nothing to do with real-time events this whole thing is about.

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Horseshit. "Obstruction of Congress" isn't even a crime. Pursuing legal constitutional processes is not a crime.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Wants the Senate trial to be limited to only what the House presented. He says that’s only fair. He’s an idiot.



it was just on TV. I will add link as soon as it becomes available.



here is link.

He's arrogant.

He's pissed because his power is limited.

Every American should be pissed.

They are. At you people.

They should be at these coward ass republicans.

 

[berg80]

Rep. Tom Cole (R) is lying his ass off on the floor of the House right this minute. Everything he is saying is a repeat of the right wing talking points..............all of which are lies.

 

[AntonToo]

For example?

Who should be on that stand if not Mulveney who held up the aid on Trump's orders, or Juliani who was SMACK MIDDLE OF THE ENTIRE THING and who Trump referred EVERYONE to deal with including the President of Ukraine?

You want to get to the truth you ask the people involved, not put up sideshow about people who had nothing to do with real-time events this whole thing is about.

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Because there are legal remedies to resolve the issue.

Yes there are - file Articles for Abuse of Power and Obstruction to impeach a president who is shamelessly engaging in a wholesale cover up.

It took 8 months to get a ruling on McGhan testimony(surprise! he has to testify)...and now it will take god knows how long for appeal. It’s never ending.

 

[easyt65]

Sounds like something the democrats should have done.

You mean like this?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D024.pdf

MR. GOLDMAN: This is the deposition of Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Mr. Mulvaney was subpoenaed to appear at 9:00 a.m.
It is 9:07 a.m. He is not here.

And then followed up in court to force testimony, but they did not do that. This is what happens when you try to unseat a president this close to an election. He can use the clock.

Why hold up the process for a year (and place it smack middle of election) when the bare fact of this Obstruction of Congressional Investigation is itself an impeachment Article and evidence of guilt??

To do this is to basically give a roadmap to future President crooks - avoid Congressional oversight by running out the clock.

Because there are legal remedies to resolve the issue.

Yes there are - file Articles for Abuse of Power and Obstruction to impeach a president who is shamelessly engaging in a wholesale cover up.

It took 8 months to get a ruling on McGhan testimony...and now it will take god knows how long for appeal. It’s never ending.

File Articles of UNPROVEN Abuse of Power? Translation: partisan butt-hurt.

Durham is going to have a field day with everyone involved in the FISA Court Abuse crimes!

 

[rightwinger]

I think Trump deserves the same rights and protections that Clinton received

 

[bripat9643]

I think Trump deserves the same rights and protections that Clinton received

He didn't get that.