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Socialists might have opened the door to legally defining their beliefs as a religion; thereby, triggering the First Amendment’s prohibition against a state religion. There’s quite a bit in an article by John Griffing, but this could be the wedge that forces the door open:

AUSTIN, Texas – Parents of school children across Texas now are gaining access to a previously secret public school curriculum, according to an announcement from a state lawmaker.

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Among those issues were that the curriculum at one point taught the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism and Christians were cannibals, and forced students to draw a socialist flag while imagining a new socialist country.

I don’t know which flag the kids were asked to draw from among the pages and pages of Socialist flags to choose from:


Naturally, the defunct Soviet Union’s hammer & sickle on a field of red is well-represented. I doubt if American Socialists/Communists want to be reminded of socialism’s greatest failure to date; so I selected this:

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The United Nations is the driving force behind establishing socialism as the one true religion. If socialism has a cathedral it is surely UN headquarters in Manhattan. Bottom line: There is no better way to tie the United Nations to socialism than a flag of their choosing. It is teachers who brought socialism to where it is in America today. It would be poetic justice if teachers pushing socialism’s flag were responsible for driving Socialists away from the public trough

Red v. Blue

I once said that blue was the color of socialism:


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I was wrong. Thanks to teachers in Texas UN Blue is being replaced by communism’s red. That is an important development. Whenever American military personnel are ordered to wear UN apparel they are, in effect, serving under socialism’s colors. So the next step is changing UN caps, etc. from blue to red. (Red has universally been seen as the color of communism since the earliest days of the Soviet Union.)

Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country has ever been able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag. The UN flying its flag along with all of those national flags on the UN campus implies worldwide socialism.

Like Islam’s flag(s), the UN flag represents a religion and a political agenda. That agenda is socialism/communism (totalitarian government when put in practice). Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country was ever able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag.

Incidentally, did you know that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Socialists? Think about it. Many of the old Star Trek shows dealt with omnipotent entities, or were just plain silly. However, those storylines involving the Klingons, or the Romulans, always ended with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock bringing off Peace Without Victory. There was never an all-out war with a winner and a loser that I'm aware of. Such shows were loaded with numerous references to the all-supreme United Federation of Planets. Clearly, a clever way of plugging the United Nations into impressionable young minds. Hell, the fictional Federation even had a flag that looks like the UN flag:


images

I wonder how many then-young Trekkies —— now, well into their middle-age —— realize how shamelessly they were brainwashed?

Next

Texans are fighting socialism on the state level. Education is a state issue. The federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in education. Do a little research and you won’t find any justification for this:


WND previously reported the Obama administration’s Department of Education was expressing interest in CSCOPE.

A source in the Texas education system had told WND that Common Core operatives in the U.S. Department of Education are actively pursuing CSCOPE as a way around the Texas legislative process.

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum
Lawmaker confirms immediate changes in controversial operations
Published: 16 hours ago
by JOHN GRIFFING

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum

Parenthetically, Ronald Reagan et al. wanted to abolish the Department of Education. More recently, Michele Bachmann vowed to shut it down.

Jimmy Peanuts signed the Department of Education into law. The first Secretary of Education, a cabinet post, took office in 1979. If the atheistic ED can’t be shutdown, I would make Secretary of God a cabinet post and install a Christian cleric as the first secretary. A Roman Catholic cardinal would send liberals round-the-bend.


Socialism —— the religion

religion (noun)
Abbr. rel., relig.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The battle in Texas is not enough to legally define socialism as a religion. It is but one proof that can be cited to show that socialism is a religion defined by: 4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Basically, it would be impossible to get a case before the Supreme Court based on philosophy and/or a political agenda. Everything Socialists did in Texas schools depicts actual events that can be presented in a court —— facts supporting the claim that socialism is a religion violating the First Amendment.

Incidentally, socialism/communism is the only religion that has no sects. There are no choices. It’s socialism or nothing.
 
Socialists might have opened the door to legally defining their beliefs as a religion; thereby, triggering the First Amendment’s prohibition against a state religion. There’s quite a bit in an article by John Griffing, but this could be the wedge that forces the door open:

AUSTIN, Texas – Parents of school children across Texas now are gaining access to a previously secret public school curriculum, according to an announcement from a state lawmaker.

XXXXX

Among those issues were that the curriculum at one point taught the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism and Christians were cannibals, and forced students to draw a socialist flag while imagining a new socialist country.

I don’t know which flag the kids were asked to draw from among the pages and pages of Socialist flags to choose from:


Naturally, the defunct Soviet Union’s hammer & sickle on a field of red is well-represented. I doubt if American Socialists/Communists want to be reminded of socialism’s greatest failure to date; so I selected this:

images

The United Nations is the driving force behind establishing socialism as the one true religion. If socialism has a cathedral it is surely UN headquarters in Manhattan. Bottom line: There is no better way to tie the United Nations to socialism than a flag of their choosing. It is teachers who brought socialism to where it is in America today. It would be poetic justice if teachers pushing socialism’s flag were responsible for driving Socialists away from the public trough

Red v. Blue

I once said that blue was the color of socialism:


images

I was wrong. Thanks to teachers in Texas UN Blue is being replaced by communism’s red. That is an important development. Whenever American military personnel are ordered to wear UN apparel they are, in effect, serving under socialism’s colors. So the next step is changing UN caps, etc. from blue to red. (Red has universally been seen as the color of communism since the earliest days of the Soviet Union.)

Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country has ever been able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag. The UN flying its flag along with all of those national flags on the UN campus implies worldwide socialism.

Like Islam’s flag(s), the UN flag represents a religion and a political agenda. That agenda is socialism/communism (totalitarian government when put in practice). Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country was ever able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag.

Incidentally, did you know that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Socialists? Think about it. Many of the old Star Trek shows dealt with omnipotent entities, or were just plain silly. However, those storylines involving the Klingons, or the Romulans, always ended with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock bringing off Peace Without Victory. There was never an all-out war with a winner and a loser that I'm aware of. Such shows were loaded with numerous references to the all-supreme United Federation of Planets. Clearly, a clever way of plugging the United Nations into impressionable young minds. Hell, the fictional Federation even had a flag that looks like the UN flag:


images

I wonder how many then-young Trekkies —— now, well into their middle-age —— realize how shamelessly they were brainwashed?

Next

Texans are fighting socialism on the state level. Education is a state issue. The federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in education. Do a little research and you won’t find any justification for this:


WND previously reported the Obama administration’s Department of Education was expressing interest in CSCOPE.

A source in the Texas education system had told WND that Common Core operatives in the U.S. Department of Education are actively pursuing CSCOPE as a way around the Texas legislative process.

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum
Lawmaker confirms immediate changes in controversial operations
Published: 16 hours ago
by JOHN GRIFFING

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum

Parenthetically, Ronald Reagan et al. wanted to abolish the Department of Education. More recently, Michele Bachmann vowed to shut it down.

Jimmy Peanuts signed the Department of Education into law. The first Secretary of Education, a cabinet post, took office in 1979. If the atheistic ED can’t be shutdown, I would make Secretary of God a cabinet post and install a Christian cleric as the first secretary. A Roman Catholic cardinal would send liberals round-the-bend.


Socialism —— the religion

religion (noun)
Abbr. rel., relig.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The battle in Texas is not enough to legally define socialism as a religion. It is but one proof that can be cited to show that socialism is a religion defined by: 4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Basically, it would be impossible to get a case before the Supreme Court based on philosophy and/or a political agenda. Everything Socialists did in Texas schools depicts actual events that can be presented in a court —— facts supporting the claim that socialism is a religion violating the First Amendment.

Incidentally, socialism/communism is the only religion that has no sects. There are no choices. It’s socialism or nothing.
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Of course communism is a religion! They have a bible - Karl Marx Mentor - Hess - said that his religion was that of the socialist revolution. The clergy of all other religions were crooks according to him. Hess was the founder of a perverted zionism which to this day is purposely confused with Herzl who gave a right definition of zionism- and- the one we follow to this very day. Hess taught Marx that socialism was inseperable from internationalism. Marx wrote in his Communist Manifesto that the proletariat has no fatherland. In his Red Catechism Hess mocked the notion of a fatherland for the Germans. Hess was the founder of socialism, not Marx, and his goal ( as was Marx goal ) was to "chase God from heaven"!

They have their own version of the Lords prayer which blashphemes God, I have a copy of one of the prayers entitled the Our Father which starts off Our Father, which art in Petersburg ( today, Leningrad ) Cursed be your name, May your Kingdom crumble, May your will not be fulfilled, yea, not even in hell......... Yes, that is the communist prayer as recited in the Soviet Newspaper Sovietskaia Molodioj, February 14, 1976, which is a bold declaration of their true religion ( satanism - Marx himself was a satanist ) The ultimate aim of communism is to mock God and praise satan. The German Socialist Student Union also published a pardoy of the Lord's Prayer. Mockery of the Lords prayer is one of the practices of Communists in other lands.

The deification of the communist leaders is another clue. The worship goes to the one in control. Mao, Stalin, Marx, Ceusescu, Lenin........ Kim Jong Il was deified also... Yes, Marxism is a religion and it even uses scripture.

Its main work, The Capitol by Marx is called "THE BIBLE OF THE WORKING CLASS"........ MARX HIMSELF CONSIDERED HIMSELF THE POPE OF COMMUNISM. COMMUNISM HAS THE PRIDE OF INFALLIBILITY. ALL WHO OPPOSE THE COMMMUNIST CREED ARE EX-COMMUNICATED! MARX WROTE, BAKUNIN SHOULD BEWARE, OTHERWISE, WE WILL EX-COMMUNICATE HIM. THOSE WHO DIE IN SERVICE TO MARXISM ARE FEASTED AS "MARTYRS".. MARXISM HAS SACRAMENTS, THE SOLEMN RECEPTIONS IN THE TODDLERS ORGANIZATION CALLED "THE CHILDREN OF OCTOBER" THE OATHS GIVEN WHEN RECEIVED AS PIONEERS, AFTER WHICH COMES THE HIGHER GRADES OF INITIATION IN THE KOMOSOMOL AND THE PARTY. CONFESSION IS REPLACED BY SELF - CRITICISM BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY OF PARTY MEMBERS. MARXISM IS A CHURCH. IT HAS ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A CHURCH AND THE INNER CIRCLE OF MARXISM DOESN'T HAVE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED "HELL" FOR NO REASON. Sorry about the CAPS but I want to make sure if people read this that is the one thing they do not miss. Marxism / socialism / communist is MOST DEFINITELY a religion. - Jeremiah
 
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MARX, DARWIN AND THE REVOLUTION CHAPTER 7 - MARX & SATAN - BY RICHARD WURMBRAND

The greatest book ever written exposing the religion of satanism which Karl Marx did practice would be Marx & Satan by Richard Wurmbrand. The communists were so disturbed by the documents / evidence / poetry / writings and letters Wurmbrand was able to lay hold of that they viciously attacked his book from one continent to the next. No other man in the world has done so much damage to the secret plans of the Soviets. His book is a veritable masterpiece.

In chapter 7 of Wurmbrands book he confronts the specific contribution of Marx to Satans plans for mankind. What were those plans? Well, the bible teaches that God created man in his own image ( Genesis 1:26) Up to the time of Marx, man continued to be considered "the crown of creation" Wurmbrand says.... Marx was Satans tool to make sure that man lost his self esteem, his conviction that he comes from high places and is meant to return to high places. Marxism is the first systematc and detailed philosophy which drastically reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which has to be filed and refilled constantly. The prevailing interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters into social relationships with others. This is the basis of society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage, love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, determined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book, The Descent of Man, another masterstroke which makes men forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not dethrone God, so he devalued man. ( and he used Karl Marx to accomplish that, people! ) Man was shown to be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth century gave the world three leading personalities opposed to Christianity, all three bearing the name of Charles: Karl Marx ( German for Charles ) Charles Darwin and the french poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in Abel and Cain: Race of Cain ascend to heaven and throw God to the earth. Interesting fact known by the Christian world though. Charles Darwin repented and converted to Christianity on his death bed. I cannot recall the name of the woman who led him to the Lord right now but I have the book that details his conversion.

-Jeremiah

*NOTE Charles Darwin is the spiritual father of Communism just as Sir Francis Galton ( who was Charles Darwins 1st cousin) is the spiritual father of nazism through his science of eugenics which Hitler did adopt for the people of Germany. Always look to the spiritual roots / relationship of a matter to get at the truth of what is behind it.
 
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To Jeremiah: Great background material in both responses.

I don’t see how anybody can believe socialism/communism is NOT a religion, yet I have been disputed and attacked personally countless times for showing that it IS a religion.

Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s rear end about what fools believe so long as the government does not force me to fund those beliefs. I think Thomas Jefferson would agree with me:


The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. ... Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.

Socialists pick my pocket, and would break my leg the minute they abolish the Second Amendment. Legally defining socialism as a religion so the First Amendment kicks in has always been my goal. Taking tax dollar tithing away from Socialists contains a built-in bonus. Their evil religion will disappear on the day they have to pay for it out of their own pockets.

I have to admit it’s been an uphill battle. In addition to infiltrating the federal government Socialists on every level know their beliefs constitute a religion, yet they deny it knowing full-well that a Supreme Court decision would drive them and their beliefs away from the tax tub. I can think of no other religion where the faithful deny their religion is a religion while demanding the Right to practice it with tax dollars.

Parenthetically, François Noël Babeuf (1760 - 1797) is an even better example of the events set in motion during the French Revolution. Babeuf, who supposedly hated inequality and injustice, favored violent revolution as all Socialists/Communists do when their ambition is frustrated. Class envy, hatred, and violence is Babeuf’s legacy to the modern world. Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao are Babeuf’s most notable disciples.

Happily, Babeuf was executed. I always thought fate sent a message in that the engineer of contemporary socialism got his head lopped off while colonial Americans were creating a government for the ages.

Socialism’s philosophy has plagued the world since François Noël Babeuf first preached his gospel, but it could not be discredited until it was first put in practice by the defunct Soviet Union. Today, the results of that terrible religious doctrine founded upon the tax collector’s morality is obvious.

A quick study of Babeuf shows that present-day Socialists/Communists have not changed one iota in their goals after well over two hundred years of socialism’s crapola.

Babeuf claimed he hated inequality and injustice, yet he enthusiastically supported the French Revolution in the beginning. He advocated the common ownership of land and property, and absolute economic and political equality of all citizens. These principles became known as Babouvism. Equality, abolishing private property, ending in class warfare. Does it all sound familiar?

The root cause of communism/socialism can be found in an unrealistic search for Utopia. That fantasy goes back further than Babeuf who is said by some to be the father of socialism. Karl Marx basically cataloged Babeuf’s beliefs, and then added a few utopian ideas of his own. That so many bought into communism is the real tragedy.

Looking back at socialism’s sorry track record wherever it has been put in practice, I stand by my assertion that absolute private property ownership is the best way to beat back Babouvism or socialism or communism or whatever they want to call it nowadays.
 
To Jeremiah: Great background material in both responses.

I don’t see how anybody can believe socialism/communism is NOT a religion, yet I have been disputed and attacked personally countless times for showing that it IS a religion.

Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s rear end about what fools believe so long as the government does not force me to fund those beliefs. I think Thomas Jefferson would agree with me:


The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. ... Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.

Socialists pick my pocket, and would break my leg the minute they abolish the Second Amendment. Legally defining socialism as a religion so the First Amendment kicks in has always been my goal. Taking tax dollar tithing away from Socialists contains a built-in bonus. Their evil religion will disappear on the day they have to pay for it out of their own pockets.

I have to admit it’s been an uphill battle. In addition to infiltrating the federal government Socialists on every level know their beliefs constitute a religion, yet they deny it knowing full-well that a Supreme Court decision would drive them and their beliefs away from the tax tub. I can think of no other religion where the faithful deny their religion is a religion while demanding the Right to practice it with tax dollars.

Parenthetically, François Noël Babeuf (1760 - 1797) is an even better example of the events set in motion during the French Revolution. Babeuf, who supposedly hated inequality and injustice, favored violent revolution as all Socialists/Communists do when their ambition is frustrated. Class envy, hatred, and violence is Babeuf’s legacy to the modern world. Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao are Babeuf’s most notable disciples.

Happily, Babeuf was executed. I always thought fate sent a message in that the engineer of contemporary socialism got his head lopped off while colonial Americans were creating a government for the ages.

Socialism’s philosophy has plagued the world since François Noël Babeuf first preached his gospel, but it could not be discredited until it was first put in practice by the defunct Soviet Union. Today, the results of that terrible religious doctrine founded upon the tax collector’s morality is obvious.

A quick study of Babeuf shows that present-day Socialists/Communists have not changed one iota in their goals after well over two hundred years of socialism’s crapola.

Babeuf claimed he hated inequality and injustice, yet he enthusiastically supported the French Revolution in the beginning. He advocated the common ownership of land and property, and absolute economic and political equality of all citizens. These principles became known as Babouvism. Equality, abolishing private property, ending in class warfare. Does it all sound familiar?

The root cause of communism/socialism can be found in an unrealistic search for Utopia. That fantasy goes back further than Babeuf who is said by some to be the father of socialism. Karl Marx basically cataloged Babeuf’s beliefs, and then added a few utopian ideas of his own. That so many bought into communism is the real tragedy.

Looking back at socialism’s sorry track record wherever it has been put in practice, I stand by my assertion that absolute private property ownership is the best way to beat back Babouvism or socialism or communism or whatever they want to call it nowadays.

I believe it was Mayor Bloomberg who recently condemned a public figure ( not liberal ) of being an 'anti-utopianist!" Incredible how they can come right out and tell the world and still the world does not get it! Hard to comprehend how it is possible however Yuri Bemzenov not only suggested it was possible but probable as the indoctrination of Marxism in schools, society, government agenda all but guarantee it. Yuri was an ex KGB agent trained in subversive technique so I'm sure he was capable of recognizing it even then.
 
Socialists might have opened the door to legally defining their beliefs as a religion; thereby, triggering the First Amendment’s prohibition against a state religion. There’s quite a bit in an article by John Griffing, but this could be the wedge that forces the door open:

AUSTIN, Texas – Parents of school children across Texas now are gaining access to a previously secret public school curriculum, according to an announcement from a state lawmaker.

XXXXX

Among those issues were that the curriculum at one point taught the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism and Christians were cannibals, and forced students to draw a socialist flag while imagining a new socialist country.

I don’t know which flag the kids were asked to draw from among the pages and pages of Socialist flags to choose from:


Naturally, the defunct Soviet Union’s hammer & sickle on a field of red is well-represented. I doubt if American Socialists/Communists want to be reminded of socialism’s greatest failure to date; so I selected this:

images

The United Nations is the driving force behind establishing socialism as the one true religion. If socialism has a cathedral it is surely UN headquarters in Manhattan. Bottom line: There is no better way to tie the United Nations to socialism than a flag of their choosing. It is teachers who brought socialism to where it is in America today. It would be poetic justice if teachers pushing socialism’s flag were responsible for driving Socialists away from the public trough

Red v. Blue

I once said that blue was the color of socialism:


images

I was wrong. Thanks to teachers in Texas UN Blue is being replaced by communism’s red. That is an important development. Whenever American military personnel are ordered to wear UN apparel they are, in effect, serving under socialism’s colors. So the next step is changing UN caps, etc. from blue to red. (Red has universally been seen as the color of communism since the earliest days of the Soviet Union.)

Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country has ever been able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag. The UN flying its flag along with all of those national flags on the UN campus implies worldwide socialism.

Like Islam’s flag(s), the UN flag represents a religion and a political agenda. That agenda is socialism/communism (totalitarian government when put in practice). Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country was ever able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag.

Incidentally, did you know that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Socialists? Think about it. Many of the old Star Trek shows dealt with omnipotent entities, or were just plain silly. However, those storylines involving the Klingons, or the Romulans, always ended with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock bringing off Peace Without Victory. There was never an all-out war with a winner and a loser that I'm aware of. Such shows were loaded with numerous references to the all-supreme United Federation of Planets. Clearly, a clever way of plugging the United Nations into impressionable young minds. Hell, the fictional Federation even had a flag that looks like the UN flag:


images

I wonder how many then-young Trekkies —— now, well into their middle-age —— realize how shamelessly they were brainwashed?

Next

Texans are fighting socialism on the state level. Education is a state issue. The federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in education. Do a little research and you won’t find any justification for this:


WND previously reported the Obama administration’s Department of Education was expressing interest in CSCOPE.

A source in the Texas education system had told WND that Common Core operatives in the U.S. Department of Education are actively pursuing CSCOPE as a way around the Texas legislative process.

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum
Lawmaker confirms immediate changes in controversial operations
Published: 16 hours ago
by JOHN GRIFFING

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum

Parenthetically, Ronald Reagan et al. wanted to abolish the Department of Education. More recently, Michele Bachmann vowed to shut it down.

Jimmy Peanuts signed the Department of Education into law. The first Secretary of Education, a cabinet post, took office in 1979. If the atheistic ED can’t be shutdown, I would make Secretary of God a cabinet post and install a Christian cleric as the first secretary. A Roman Catholic cardinal would send liberals round-the-bend.


Socialism —— the religion

religion (noun)
Abbr. rel., relig.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The battle in Texas is not enough to legally define socialism as a religion. It is but one proof that can be cited to show that socialism is a religion defined by: 4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Basically, it would be impossible to get a case before the Supreme Court based on philosophy and/or a political agenda. Everything Socialists did in Texas schools depicts actual events that can be presented in a court —— facts supporting the claim that socialism is a religion violating the First Amendment.

Incidentally, socialism/communism is the only religion that has no sects. There are no choices. It’s socialism or nothing.

This reminds me of A.W. Tozer who said people in his day had opted for easier reading material, comic books, Good Housekeeping magazines, etc. They had not acquired a taste for good books and had no desire to read anything that would require their thinking intently on the subject. I did not see that to be the case in Tozers time but he did according to his books. However! Today? I'm seeing it. - Jeri
 
This reminds me of A.W. Tozer who said people in his day had opted for easier reading material, comic books, Good Housekeeping magazines, etc. They had not acquired a taste for good books and had no desire to read anything that would require their thinking intently on the subject. I did not see that to be the case in Tozers time but he did according to his books. However! Today? I'm seeing it. - Jeri

To Jeremiah: Interesting take.

I’m not familiar with Tozer, but he was half-right. I recall Classics Illustrated prompted me to read the books when I was teenager.


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Socialists might have opened the door to legally defining their beliefs as a religion; thereby, triggering the First Amendment’s prohibition against a state religion. There’s quite a bit in an article by John Griffing, but this could be the wedge that forces the door open:

AUSTIN, Texas – Parents of school children across Texas now are gaining access to a previously secret public school curriculum, according to an announcement from a state lawmaker.

XXXXX

Among those issues were that the curriculum at one point taught the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism and Christians were cannibals, and forced students to draw a socialist flag while imagining a new socialist country.

I don’t know which flag the kids were asked to draw from among the pages and pages of Socialist flags to choose from:


Naturally, the defunct Soviet Union’s hammer & sickle on a field of red is well-represented. I doubt if American Socialists/Communists want to be reminded of socialism’s greatest failure to date; so I selected this:

images

The United Nations is the driving force behind establishing socialism as the one true religion. If socialism has a cathedral it is surely UN headquarters in Manhattan. Bottom line: There is no better way to tie the United Nations to socialism than a flag of their choosing. It is teachers who brought socialism to where it is in America today. It would be poetic justice if teachers pushing socialism’s flag were responsible for driving Socialists away from the public trough

Red v. Blue

I once said that blue was the color of socialism:


images

I was wrong. Thanks to teachers in Texas UN Blue is being replaced by communism’s red. That is an important development. Whenever American military personnel are ordered to wear UN apparel they are, in effect, serving under socialism’s colors. So the next step is changing UN caps, etc. from blue to red. (Red has universally been seen as the color of communism since the earliest days of the Soviet Union.)

Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country has ever been able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag. The UN flying its flag along with all of those national flags on the UN campus implies worldwide socialism.

Like Islam’s flag(s), the UN flag represents a religion and a political agenda. That agenda is socialism/communism (totalitarian government when put in practice). Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country was ever able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag.

Incidentally, did you know that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Socialists? Think about it. Many of the old Star Trek shows dealt with omnipotent entities, or were just plain silly. However, those storylines involving the Klingons, or the Romulans, always ended with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock bringing off Peace Without Victory. There was never an all-out war with a winner and a loser that I'm aware of. Such shows were loaded with numerous references to the all-supreme United Federation of Planets. Clearly, a clever way of plugging the United Nations into impressionable young minds. Hell, the fictional Federation even had a flag that looks like the UN flag:


images

I wonder how many then-young Trekkies —— now, well into their middle-age —— realize how shamelessly they were brainwashed?

Next

Texans are fighting socialism on the state level. Education is a state issue. The federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in education. Do a little research and you won’t find any justification for this:


WND previously reported the Obama administration’s Department of Education was expressing interest in CSCOPE.

A source in the Texas education system had told WND that Common Core operatives in the U.S. Department of Education are actively pursuing CSCOPE as a way around the Texas legislative process.

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum
Lawmaker confirms immediate changes in controversial operations
Published: 16 hours ago
by JOHN GRIFFING

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum

Parenthetically, Ronald Reagan et al. wanted to abolish the Department of Education. More recently, Michele Bachmann vowed to shut it down.

Jimmy Peanuts signed the Department of Education into law. The first Secretary of Education, a cabinet post, took office in 1979. If the atheistic ED can’t be shutdown, I would make Secretary of God a cabinet post and install a Christian cleric as the first secretary. A Roman Catholic cardinal would send liberals round-the-bend.


Socialism —— the religion

religion (noun)
Abbr. rel., relig.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The battle in Texas is not enough to legally define socialism as a religion. It is but one proof that can be cited to show that socialism is a religion defined by: 4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Basically, it would be impossible to get a case before the Supreme Court based on philosophy and/or a political agenda. Everything Socialists did in Texas schools depicts actual events that can be presented in a court —— facts supporting the claim that socialism is a religion violating the First Amendment.

Incidentally, socialism/communism is the only religion that has no sects. There are no choices. It’s socialism or nothing.

Progressive Statism has always been a Cult. :)

Just remember their 1st Commandment. ..... "2+2=5 for as long as the Collective says it does." -Allegience, Obedience, Submission, Compliance. Never Question or Embarrass Leadership (When a Statist Progressive is In Charge). You are so silly sometimes.
 
Progressive Statism has always been a Cult. :)

Just remember their 1st Commandment. ..... "2+2=5 for as long as the Collective says it does." -Allegience, Obedience, Submission, Compliance. Never Question or Embarrass Leadership (When a Statist Progressive is In Charge). You are so silly sometimes.

To Intense: I have to admit I never saw it as a cult. I’ll have to program that into my thinking.
 
Stalin admitted collectivism cost the lives of at least 10 million people. As satanism is a cult so is statism / socialism / marxism / communism... it all equals satanism in my eyes. Whether the practioner is aware of it or not does not dimish the fact. imo.
 
Socialists might have opened the door to legally defining their beliefs as a religion; thereby, triggering the First Amendment’s prohibition against a state religion. There’s quite a bit in an article by John Griffing, but this could be the wedge that forces the door open:

AUSTIN, Texas – Parents of school children across Texas now are gaining access to a previously secret public school curriculum, according to an announcement from a state lawmaker.

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Among those issues were that the curriculum at one point taught the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism and Christians were cannibals, and forced students to draw a socialist flag while imagining a new socialist country.

I don’t know which flag the kids were asked to draw from among the pages and pages of Socialist flags to choose from:



Naturally, the defunct Soviet Union’s hammer & sickle on a field of red is well-represented. I doubt if American Socialists/Communists want to be reminded of socialism’s greatest failure to date; so I selected this:

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The United Nations is the driving force behind establishing socialism as the one true religion. If socialism has a cathedral it is surely UN headquarters in Manhattan. Bottom line: There is no better way to tie the United Nations to socialism than a flag of their choosing. It is teachers who brought socialism to where it is in America today. It would be poetic justice if teachers pushing socialism’s flag were responsible for driving Socialists away from the public trough

Red v. Blue

I once said that blue was the color of socialism:


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I was wrong. Thanks to teachers in Texas UN Blue is being replaced by communism’s red. That is an important development. Whenever American military personnel are ordered to wear UN apparel they are, in effect, serving under socialism’s colors. So the next step is changing UN caps, etc. from blue to red. (Red has universally been seen as the color of communism since the earliest days of the Soviet Union.)

Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country has ever been able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag. The UN flying its flag along with all of those national flags on the UN campus implies worldwide socialism.

Like Islam’s flag(s), the UN flag represents a religion and a political agenda. That agenda is socialism/communism (totalitarian government when put in practice). Neither the hammer & sickle nor any national flag flown by any communist country was ever able to have their flags legitimize socialism as effectively as does the UN flag.

Incidentally, did you know that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Socialists? Think about it. Many of the old Star Trek shows dealt with omnipotent entities, or were just plain silly. However, those storylines involving the Klingons, or the Romulans, always ended with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock bringing off Peace Without Victory. There was never an all-out war with a winner and a loser that I'm aware of. Such shows were loaded with numerous references to the all-supreme United Federation of Planets. Clearly, a clever way of plugging the United Nations into impressionable young minds. Hell, the fictional Federation even had a flag that looks like the UN flag:


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I wonder how many then-young Trekkies —— now, well into their middle-age —— realize how shamelessly they were brainwashed?

Next

Texans are fighting socialism on the state level. Education is a state issue. The federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in education. Do a little research and you won’t find any justification for this:


WND previously reported the Obama administration’s Department of Education was expressing interest in CSCOPE.

A source in the Texas education system had told WND that Common Core operatives in the U.S. Department of Education are actively pursuing CSCOPE as a way around the Texas legislative process.

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum
Lawmaker confirms immediate changes in controversial operations
Published: 16 hours ago
by JOHN GRIFFING

Parents gain access to secret school curriculum

Parenthetically, Ronald Reagan et al. wanted to abolish the Department of Education. More recently, Michele Bachmann vowed to shut it down.

Jimmy Peanuts signed the Department of Education into law. The first Secretary of Education, a cabinet post, took office in 1979. If the atheistic ED can’t be shutdown, I would make Secretary of God a cabinet post and install a Christian cleric as the first secretary. A Roman Catholic cardinal would send liberals round-the-bend.


Socialism —— the religion

religion (noun)
Abbr. rel., relig.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The battle in Texas is not enough to legally define socialism as a religion. It is but one proof that can be cited to show that socialism is a religion defined by: 4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Basically, it would be impossible to get a case before the Supreme Court based on philosophy and/or a political agenda. Everything Socialists did in Texas schools depicts actual events that can be presented in a court —— facts supporting the claim that socialism is a religion violating the First Amendment.

Incidentally, socialism/communism is the only religion that has no sects. There are no choices. It’s socialism or nothing.

Progressive Statism has always been a Cult. :)

Just remember their 1st Commandment. ..... "2+2=5 for as long as the Collective says it does." -Allegience, Obedience, Submission, Compliance. Never Question or Embarrass Leadership (When a Statist Progressive is In Charge). You are so silly sometimes.

I agree that it is a cult.
 
Is the material over their heads?

This reminds me of A.W. Tozer who said people in his day had opted for easier reading material, comic books, Good Housekeeping magazines, etc.


It's not over my head, I rather enjoyed what you two have been talking about. What burdens me is time issues to look further into these subjects and the materials.

I doubt it,s over many of "their heads" either. I think it more a matter of what you quote with Tozer. People want to live a fun life, a life that pleasures them and those dear to them. They do not want to think about those things that cause them fear or discomfort --- like death, and the spirit world, and sin, and the consequences of sin. However, given that misery loves company, they will expend some effort (and the media and schools will help) to try to publicly discredit and / or ridicule Christians and their claims. "There is no shred of evidence for Jesus or God!" they boldly proclaim. Haven't you learned that, yet? And if you can get enough of them to say "here, here" on that proposal, then some paradoxical uneasy calm and comfort sets in and keeps them going. IMO.
 
I think Texans are deluding themselves.

Texas has a population of 28 million people. That's more than double the number of people in Greece.

So tell me. Why is "socialism" in our schools acceptable by the state entity with a population of 28 million but not the state entity with 350 million?

This notion that the people should fight tooth and nail for state control because the alternative is socialism is laughable. It's no less socialism at the state level than the federal. It's just a smaller sampling of citizens.

Or is it that you think their should be no socialist programs? Schools should be run by counties. Or is that too big a socialist group? Towns? Villages? Does a collective of families count?

Socialism as you people define it simply means a group of people working for the common good. I would argue that all governments, all insurances, all corporations, all churches, and all clubs and organizations fit that model.
 
Texas has a population of 28 million people. That's more than double the number of people in Greece.

To Underhill: I don’t know what Greece has to do with my premise.

So tell me. Why is "socialism" in our schools acceptable by the state entity with a population of 28 million but not the state entity with 350 million?

To Underhill: It isn’t acceptable. That’s the point.

This notion that the people should fight tooth and nail for state control because the alternative is socialism is laughable.

To Underhill: That makes no sense. State control is the primary ingredient in socialism. Nobody fights to give the state more control to fend off collectivism. Limited government defeats socialism.

It's no less socialism at the state level than the federal. It's just a smaller sampling of citizens.

To Underhill: Exactly so.

What’s your point?


Or is it that you think their should be no socialist programs?

To Underhill: There should be no programs where the government forces law-abiding Americans to do anything.

Schools should be run by counties. Or is that too big a socialist group? Towns? Villages? Does a collective of families count?

To Underhill: Schools should be ADMINISTERED by local governments with the consent of parents. See this thread for a bit more on the topic of schools.


Socialism as you people define it simply means a group of people working for the common good.

To Underhill: Which people!

I’m not sure whose side you’re on. Everything totalitarians do implements their view of the common good. In short: Hitler was a do-gooder.

Common good is a perversion of the General Welfare Clause in Section 8 of the Constitution. Here’s the most egregious example within the framework of a tyrannical welfare state:


House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the individual health insurance mandates included in every health reform bill, which require Americans to have insurance, were “like paying taxes.” He added that Congress has “broad authority” to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote “the general welfare.”

Hoyer Says Constitution’s ‘General Welfare’ Clause Empowers Congress to Order Americans to Buy Health Insurance
October 21, 2009
By Matt COVER

Hoyer Says Constitution?s ?General Welfare? Clause Empowers Congress to Order Americans to Buy Health Insurance | CNS News

Just for the record the common good defined by the Socialist priesthood in government sucks.

I would argue that all governments, all insurances, all corporations, all churches, and all clubs and organizations fit that model.

To Underhill: Name as many entities as you please, but only the government forces compliance.
 

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