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Bad idea.SCOTUS says you're full of shit. Your pouting and stamping your feet alters that not at all.As long as they are part of a well-regulated militia, I don't have a problem with it.
That means licensing, training, limits on how many guns you can have. it doesn't mean these guys..
Case law says it.
And that can be reversed.
Taking guns away from people with guns.
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed[
A well regulated militia. hmmm
what about that part?....Mmmm.....
As long as they are part of a well-regulated militia, I don't have a problem with it.
That means licensing, training, limits on how many guns you can have. it doesn't mean these guys..
That is NOT what the 2nd says. And the Supreme Court agrees. You lost, the second is officially an individual right to own possess and carry military style weapons as determined by the Constitution and the Supreme Court.
Scalia has a heart attack. Obama appoints his replacement. Heller is reconsidered.
The second means militias again.
Which is a shame. You ran. You should lose your vote.You left, so you don't get a say.
Yes, but I can still voice my opinion. And, my vote counts.
Scalia has a heart attack. Obama appoints his replacement. Heller is reconsidered.
The second means militias again.
The militia consist of a group of private citizens not connected to the government, who supply their own firearms.
If that is how you want to go.
Not connected?
The congress has authority over militias.
it has been shown Sallow....keep up.....Leftists believe they get to ignore any parts of the Constitution they disagree with.the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
what about that part?....Mmmm.....
RWers do that.
You guys never quote the whole amendment.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
There's no point in continuing this. You'll cling to any study, no matter how flawed, as long as it reinforces your irrational hatred of guns.
I've shown you how Kellerman is wrong. I've shown you stats from reliable sources that disprove your claims. You ignore them all.
You don't want the truth. You hate guns, and that's all that matters to you.
That is NOT what the 2nd says. And the Supreme Court agrees. You lost, the second is officially an individual right to own possess and carry military style weapons as determined by the Constitution and the Supreme Court.
Scalia has a heart attack. Obama appoints his replacement. Heller is reconsidered.
The second means militias again.
yea and everybody will just line up and turn their guns over.....including Organized Crime and your local thugs....
that limit on how many guns? so what the number YOU would allow then...?
and as far as that photo goes, you do know in Staten Island abc interviewed folks who were performing their own neighborhood watch for looters and gosh some of them admitted to having ....firearms
You don't think at all. You're just a mindless sheep. "Guns are BAAAAAAAAAD!"There's no point in continuing this. You'll cling to any study, no matter how flawed, as long as it reinforces your irrational hatred of guns.
I've shown you how Kellerman is wrong. I've shown you stats from reliable sources that disprove your claims. You ignore them all.
You don't want the truth. You hate guns, and that's all that matters to you.
No, guy you proved nothing of the sort.
If you kill yourself with a gun, that gun killed you. If you have 37 gun suicides and 4 gun domestic murders to every home defense murder, that's a 43-1 ratio of the gun being more of a hazard than a help. This was the point Kellerman made. NOw, it might not be a point you LIKE, but it is a fact. Guns in the house are far more likely to kill someone in the house.
Frankly, I'm indifferent to guns. I fired them when I was in the army and was responsible for maintaining them. I have no problem with guns.
I just don't think everyone should have them.
And I think your reasons for wanting them are silly and kind of tell us more about you (nothing good) than about the gun's utility.
There's no point in continuing this. You'll cling to any study, no matter how flawed, as long as it reinforces your irrational hatred of guns.
I've shown you how Kellerman is wrong. I've shown you stats from reliable sources that disprove your claims. You ignore them all.
You don't want the truth. You hate guns, and that's all that matters to you.
No, guy you proved nothing of the sort.
If you kill yourself with a gun, that gun killed you. If you have 37 gun suicides and 4 gun domestic murders to every home defense murder, that's a 43-1 ratio of the gun being more of a hazard than a help. This was the point Kellerman made. NOw, it might not be a point you LIKE, but it is a fact. Guns in the house are far more likely to kill someone in the house.
Frankly, I'm indifferent to guns. I fired them when I was in the army and was responsible for maintaining them. I have no problem with guns.
I just don't think everyone should have them.
And I think your reasons for wanting them are silly and kind of tell us more about you (nothing good) than about the gun's utility.
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SCOTUS says you're full of shit. Your pouting and stamping your feet alters that not at all.
You don't think at all. You're just a mindless sheep. "Guns are BAAAAAAAAAD!"There's no point in continuing this. You'll cling to any study, no matter how flawed, as long as it reinforces your irrational hatred of guns.
I've shown you how Kellerman is wrong. I've shown you stats from reliable sources that disprove your claims. You ignore them all.
You don't want the truth. You hate guns, and that's all that matters to you.
No, guy you proved nothing of the sort.
If you kill yourself with a gun, that gun killed you. If you have 37 gun suicides and 4 gun domestic murders to every home defense murder, that's a 43-1 ratio of the gun being more of a hazard than a help. This was the point Kellerman made. NOw, it might not be a point you LIKE, but it is a fact. Guns in the house are far more likely to kill someone in the house.
Frankly, I'm indifferent to guns. I fired them when I was in the army and was responsible for maintaining them. I have no problem with guns.
I just don't think everyone should have them.
And I think your reasons for wanting them are silly and kind of tell us more about you (nothing good) than about the gun's utility.
Run along, boy.
Scalia has a heart attack. Obama appoints his replacement. Heller is reconsidered.
The second means militias again.
yea and everybody will just line up and turn their guns over.....including Organized Crime and your local thugs....
You are far more likely to be killed by a family member in an argument over who got the last sausage link than a mob hitman. Sorry, this is just the truth of the thing.
Joe if there was no Guns for those 37 who killed themselves......dont you think they could find another way?......if a person wants to end it bad enough,they dont need a gun to do it....same with Domestic murders.....
that limit on how many guns? so what the number YOU would allow then...?
and as far as that photo goes, you do know in Staten Island abc interviewed folks who were performing their own neighborhood watch for looters and gosh some of them admitted to having ....firearms
Well, how about a little common sense gun control.
You don't need a 100 round clip or a semi-automatic weapon. We can start right there.
Also, we should make sure that you aren't crazy when you buy one.
And limiting someone to one gun purchase a month isn't unreasonable. I mean, Jesus Christ, what are you stocking up for, the Zombie Apocolypse?
Joe if there was no Guns for those 37 who killed themselves......dont you think they could find another way?......if a person wants to end it bad enough,they dont need a gun to do it....same with Domestic murders.....
Ummm, no actually I don't. And neither do you.
Having a gun in the house makes it a LOT easier to kill yourself or someone else.
Which is why we have a murder rate that is so much higher than other industrialized countries, and a higher suicide rate as well.
My argument was not "how do we stop domestic homicide/suicide". My argument was, is a gun in your house more of a danger to your family than protection.
And statistically- it is.
And here's the thing. I don't want to ban private gun ownership. I do want to change the laws so that crazy people like Joker HOlmes can't walk into a gun store and arm himself like the Zombies are coming.
But the two argument gun fetishists like Caveman give for wanting a gun is 1) "I need to protect myself from all the scary non-white people who might commit crimes" and 2) "I need to have a gun in case government goes too far and I need to fight them."
Both arguments are absurd in the extreme.
If you like to shoot or hunt, I have no problem with that. But frankly, you should have at least the bare minimum responsibility that people take with other activities like driving a car.
I have already posted the reference to the law here in cali. that bans high capacity magazines, we don't need the feds to do that.
If a state feels it worthy they can do so, they also have enacted a law that requires all "assault weapons" sold here have built in a quick magazine change restriction. keep up.
