Should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

[Joy4Uall]

The Bible didn't condone slavery. Can you show me where the Bible did so?

Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Ephesians 6And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Titus 2Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Which of these verses do you think should be brought forward in the new Scientific Humanist belief system?
We like "love your neighbor", and the Golden Rule, so those are good, but not all Bible verses are good for the world.

Absolutely none, because "scientific humanism" is a pipe dream of an atheistic douche and has aspirations to be better than "secular humanism" but falls flat on its silly face.

What parts do you like about "secular humanism"?

ding might just be a reincarnated Southern Plantation owner! Hehe.

There you go. Thank you for showing your true colors. I knew it wouldn't be too long.

The Bible did not condone slavery. Can you show me where the Bible explicitly condoned slavery?

Saying that a slave can be BEATEN TO DEATH pretty much frickin' condones slavery!!

Which verse says that?

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Marion, the Scientific Humanist loving thing to do would be to, instead, have texts that say "no slavery". Can we agree on that, or do you believe that it's ok to beat slaves to death?

We're not going to agree on anything.........

Can we agree that the country would have gone to heck if Hillary was now in the White House?

 

[aris2chat]

It have used by people on both sides of the issue

They miss the message of the whole books and the whole bible

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. .....

I'm a former Christian.

former to what now?

Scientific Humanism....not perfect....but better.

Have a great night.

with the number of varied species that are homosexual or bisexual, why would you expect mankind should be any less capable of love or ability to parent than a heterosexual?

are people of a darker shade any less human and capable of anything a lighter skin can do?

homosexuals have been part of the human race as long as recorded history. They were capable to do the same skills as heteros. There have been kings and queen who were homosexual, warriors, philosophers, scientists, architects, etc,.......

Every culture, every part of the world, every religion (openly or not)

New Study On Homosexual Parents Tops All - Family Research Council
www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
In a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark ... of the parent to give answers that will make herself and her child look good.
Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones | BU Today | Boston University
Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones | BU Today | Boston University
Apr 11, 2013 - The best study so far, Siegel tells BU Today, is the National Longitudinal .... To assume wanting/not wanting children makes good/badparents is flawed ..... I surely don't see Straight couples fighting as much as the LGBT ...
New Study Confirms Same-Sex Couples Make Great Parents
https://thinkprogress.org/new-study-confirms-same-sex-couples-make-great-parents-2...
Jul 10, 2013 - LGBT Editor at ThinkProgress.org. ... New Study Confirms Same-Sex Couples Make Great Parents ... to have children, arguing against marriage equality because marriage should be about what's best for children, not adults.
Major New Study Finds Kids Raised By Same-Sex Couples Are ...
https://thinkprogress.org/major-new-study-finds-kids-raised-by-same-sex-couples-are-...
Jul 5, 2014 - The study, conducted in Australia by University of Melbourne researchers “surveyed 315 same-sex parents and 500 children.” The children in ...

 

[ding]

Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Ephesians 6And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Titus 2Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Which of these verses do you think should be brought forward in the new Scientific Humanist belief system?
We like "love your neighbor", and the Golden Rule, so those are good, but not all Bible verses are good for the world.

Absolutely none, because "scientific humanism" is a pipe dream of an atheistic douche and has aspirations to be better than "secular humanism" but falls flat on its silly face.

What parts do you like about "secular humanism"?

There you go. Thank you for showing your true colors. I knew it wouldn't be too long.

The Bible did not condone slavery. Can you show me where the Bible explicitly condoned slavery?

Saying that a slave can be BEATEN TO DEATH pretty much frickin' condones slavery!!

Which verse says that?

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Marion, the Scientific Humanist loving thing to do would be to, instead, have texts that say "no slavery". Can we agree on that, or do you believe that it's ok to beat slaves to death?

We're not going to agree on anything.........

Can we agree that the country would have gone to heck if Hillary was now in the White House?

The country is going to heck regardless. It is perfectly natural.

 

[skye]

No

They should not be allowed to adopt kids.

 

[ding]

Really really great post - showing the true nature of Christianity.

So clearly you are incapable of discussing this like an adult.

1. The Bible did not condone slavery.
2. Slavery during this time was indentured servitude. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families.
3. Both the OT and NT expressly forbid forced slavery. The penalty for such a crime in the Mosaic Law was death: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16)
4. Indentured servants were treated pretty bad back in those days. Mosaic Law measurably raised the standards of treatment heads and shoulders above their contemporaries of the day.

So, you are quite ignorant on this subject or you are being intentionally mendacious. Either way you have shown yourself to be someone whose goal is to subordinate religion for political purposes. Just like socialists have done throughout history.

It have used by people on both sides of the issue

They miss the message of the whole books and the whole bible

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. I would just expect you to not attack it. The fact that you do tells a lot about your intentions.

It would have been GOOD if Nazism (not saying Christians are Nazis, but trying to make a point) had been "attacked" in 1938!

I get your point. What you don't understand is that truth will always rise to the top, especially when it is challenged. There's a reason Christianity has survived all these years and it isn't why you think either.

 

[skye]

sexual deviants should not be with children.

 

[ding]

It have used by people on both sides of the issue

They miss the message of the whole books and the whole bible

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. .....

I'm a former Christian.

former to what now?

Scientific Humanism....not perfect....but better.

Have a great night.

If that were true you wouldn't be attacking a rival religion.

 

[yiostheoy]

sexual deviants should not be with children.

So what's your definition ??

 

[yiostheoy]

No

They should not be allowed to adopt kids.

Why ??

 

[yiostheoy]

Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Ephesians 6And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Titus 2Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Which of these verses do you think should be brought forward in the new Scientific Humanist belief system?
We like "love your neighbor", and the Golden Rule, so those are good, but not all Bible verses are good for the world.

Absolutely none, because "scientific humanism" is a pipe dream of an atheistic douche and has aspirations to be better than "secular humanism" but falls flat on its silly face.

What parts do you like about "secular humanism"?

There you go. Thank you for showing your true colors. I knew it wouldn't be too long.

The Bible did not condone slavery. Can you show me where the Bible explicitly condoned slavery?

Saying that a slave can be BEATEN TO DEATH pretty much frickin' condones slavery!!

Which verse says that?

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Marion, the Scientific Humanist loving thing to do would be to, instead, have texts that say "no slavery". Can we agree on that, or do you believe that it's ok to beat slaves to death?

We're not going to agree on anything.........

Can we agree that the country would have gone to heck if Hillary was now in the White House?

Each one of the two major candidates had minor pro's and major con's.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Well, who are we to say no?

Freedom

 

[Joy4Uall]

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. .....

I'm a former Christian.

former to what now?

Scientific Humanism....not perfect....but better.

Have a great night.

with the number of varied species that are homosexual or bisexual, why would you expect mankind should be any less capable of love or ability to parent than a heterosexual?

are people of a darker shade any less human and capable of anything a lighter skin can do?

homosexuals have been part of the human race as long as recorded history. They were capable to do the same skills as heteros. There have been kings and queen who were homosexual, warriors, philosophers, scientists, architects, etc,.......

Every culture, every part of the world, every religion (openly or not)

New Study On Homosexual Parents Tops All - Family Research Council
www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
In a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark ... of the parent to give answers that will make herself and her child look good.
Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones | BU Today | Boston University
Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones | BU Today | Boston University
Apr 11, 2013 - The best study so far, Siegel tells BU Today, is the National Longitudinal .... To assume wanting/not wanting children makes good/badparents is flawed ..... I surely don't see Straight couples fighting as much as the LGBT ...
New Study Confirms Same-Sex Couples Make Great Parents
https://thinkprogress.org/new-study-confirms-same-sex-couples-make-great-parents-2...
Jul 10, 2013 - LGBT Editor at ThinkProgress.org. ... New Study Confirms Same-Sex Couples Make Great Parents ... to have children, arguing against marriage equality because marriage should be about what's best for children, not adults.
Major New Study Finds Kids Raised By Same-Sex Couples Are ...
https://thinkprogress.org/major-new-study-finds-kids-raised-by-same-sex-couples-are-...
Jul 5, 2014 - The study, conducted in Australia by University of Melbourne researchers “surveyed 315 same-sex parents and 500 children.” The children in ...

The tide is turning.

 

[Joy4Uall]

sexual deviants should not be with children.

Jesus defined marriage as between a man and a woman - so because he was not as tolerant as Scientific Humanists, gay couples are seen as "sexual deviants" by those that are less tolerant.

 

[Joy4Uall]

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. .....

I'm a former Christian.

former to what now?

Scientific Humanism....not perfect....but better.

Have a great night.

If that were true you wouldn't be attacking a rival religion.

CONTRASTING.

 

[Joy4Uall]

The message seems to be a mixed message: one of love, and one of fear....the word "fear" is listed many many times as this search shows: BibleGateway - : fear

Our belief system does look for the texts of the top 10 religions for words of wisdom on love, but doesn't strive to bring forward the parts that teach fear. People deserve a fear-free belief system. We don't believe that an all-powerful and all-knowing prophet would have to resort to fear - just like a good parent can move beyond instilling fear in their children. Love is the key. I like it when Christians focus on the love of their beliefs and not the fear.

I wouldn't expect you to understand a religion that is not your own. .....

I'm a former Christian.

former to what now?

Scientific Humanism....not perfect....but better.

Have a great night.

If that were true you wouldn't be attacking a rival religion.

We believe, ding, that you and your family deserve a religion where you don't have to DEFEND slavery, defend genocide (the "flood"), defend killing of gays, defend saying women should shut the hell up in church, etc.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Homosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children because at the least it puts undue confusion into the children learning sexuality, and at the most, they have a higher chance of being molested.

What, you think someone who can't control their sexual urges enough that that they have to do whatever with whoever is going to let mores and laws stop them from sexual gratification? No no no.

 

[bodecea]

The LGBT community just wants to fit right into society.
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All gays are like that in your mind, eh?

 

[Aries]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Why shouldn't they be allowed?

 

[NLT]

All gays are like that in your mind, eh?

Yep and you are like this as well

 

[Aries]

Homosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children because at the least it puts undue confusion into the children learning sexuality, and at the most, they have a higher chance of being molested.

What, you think someone who can't control their sexual urges enough that that they have to do whatever with whoever is going to let mores and laws stop them from sexual gratification? No no no.

How ridiculous to say they are at a high risk of being molested!