Should the GOP mention that hillary is married to the Waco mass murderer?

[Faun]

But YOU said it was "Conjecture" when he said that the FBI shoving gas in the house was the cause of the fire...well, which is it, he has CONJECTURE on one but not on the other?....Give us a break!

Try paying attention ... McNulty said it was his "contention" that the Davidian firing a gun at a tank from that upstairs bedroom started the first fire. In reality, his entire claim from that to the incendiary starting the fire was the CS methylene chloride, is nothing but conjecture. But he also acknowledges that it was known there was at least one Davidian to intentionally start another fire. That's not conjecture. Personally, I don't believe the Davidians started some of the fires but not all of them. But they did start fires in the compound. It was a mass suicide.

Absolutely NO PROOF of them killing themselves intentionally, and a FBI report that CLEARS themselves certainly isn't any kind of proof!

Bullshit. There's evidence they poured fuel around the compound and there's evidence they lit it. You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to me.

 

[Faun]

This Gentleman, one of Saddam's generals, in charge of the exit of WMD from Iraq to Syria, says they were shipped to Syria, and just happened to be stored in the area where Israel bombed Syria's nuclear reactor on Sept. 6, 2007!

Are you saying Bush invaded the wrong country???

Are you really this much of an idiot? Here we have Saddam's general, in charge of weapons, saying that before the war started he flew those WMD's to Syria, and even has the area pegged as the Area that was the nuclear reactor site that the Israeli's blew up in 2007.... This man had NO REASON to lie!

Holyfuckingshit! You don't understand a word I said, Vagisil. What a pity.

 

[Vigilante]

Are you saying Bush invaded the wrong country???

Are you really this much of an idiot? Here we have Saddam's general, in charge of weapons, saying that before the war started he flew those WMD's to Syria, and even has the area pegged as the Area that was the nuclear reactor site that the Israeli's blew up in 2007.... This man had NO REASON to lie!

Holyfuckingshit! You don't understand a word I said, Vagisil. What a pity.

Nor apparently, do you understand what I said. But it's to be expected from a fanatic, socialist government, sympathizer!

 

[Faun]

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That's pretty fucking sick. We're not talking about consensual sex between a 16 and 17 year old, which by the way, is legal in many states. We're talking about a 30 something year old perverted sick fuck raping girls as young as 10 or 11. And no, that word is not harsh enough to describe Koresh.

You don't have a shred of evidence that koresh was raping pre-teens. It's just a lie clinton invented after he burned alive 30 kids!!!!! It's a time-honored tactic. Absolve your own crimes by saying your victim was worse.

WTF is wrong with you Koresh acolytes? Several members of the cult made that claim, not Clinton. One of the surviving Davidians wrote about it in a book, not Clinton. You can keep your head buried on the sand but that won't make it go away.

 

[Faun]

Are you really this much of an idiot? Here we have Saddam's general, in charge of weapons, saying that before the war started he flew those WMD's to Syria, and even has the area pegged as the Area that was the nuclear reactor site that the Israeli's blew up in 2007.... This man had NO REASON to lie!

Holyfuckingshit! You don't understand a word I said, Vagisil. What a pity.

Nor apparently, do you understand what I said. But it's to be expected from a fanatic, socialist government, sympathizer!

Moron, you think I called Saddam's general a liar. You clearly have no clue what I said.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Try paying attention ... McNulty said it was his "contention" that the Davidian firing a gun at a tank from that upstairs bedroom started the first fire. In reality, his entire claim from that to the incendiary starting the fire was the CS methylene chloride, is nothing but conjecture. But he also acknowledges that it was known there was at least one Davidian to intentionally start another fire. That's not conjecture. Personally, I don't believe the Davidians started some of the fires but not all of them. But they did start fires in the compound. It was a mass suicide.

Absolutely NO PROOF of them killing themselves intentionally, and a FBI report that CLEARS themselves certainly isn't any kind of proof!

Bullshit. There's evidence they poured fuel around the compound and there's evidence they lit it. You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to me.

For some reason the fool repubs don't talk about it but it's a fact that bill clinton killed 80 some americans at waco in 1993. Burned them alive - including 30 kids. And then he threw the survivors in prison so they wouldn't talk.

This is no conspiracy theory. Everyone agrees clinton did this and hillary is married to this psychopath. I say bring it up.

Um... dude.

The Branch Davidians committed mass suicide.

Three investigations all made this determination. One of them led by Republican Senator John Danforth.

now, is there a lot to criticize on how the ATF and the FBI handed this? Absolutely. People should have been fired.

It is absolutely absurd that something that obviously appeared to be the final assault on the building of major proportion which immediately thereafter resulted in the fire would ever be thought to be conclusively really the cult committing suicide. Of course, it is possible they did kill themselves, but that was left up to American's imaginations many years ago.

 

[Faun]

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Absolutely NO PROOF of them killing themselves

Of course not. The idea is absurd. Self-immolation is extremely rare and the idea of 80 (!!) people choosing to undergo the horrible death of being burned alive is out of the question.

Earlier in this thread, I showed over 600 people who have done it. It may be rare but it's not unheard of. And again, there's evidence that they did commit suicide by torching the compound. They were heard planning it. They were seen lighting it. There were at least 3 separate fires ignited around the compound.

 

[Vigilante]

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Absolutely NO PROOF of them killing themselves

Of course not. The idea is absurd. Self-immolation is extremely rare and the idea of 80 (!!) people choosing to undergo the horrible death of being burned alive is out of the question.

Earlier in this thread, I showed over 600 people who have done it. It may be rare but it's not unheard of. And again, there's evidence that they did commit suicide by torching the compound. They were heard planning it. They were seen lighting it. There were at least 3 separate fires ignited around the compound.

Only the FBI heard and saw this.... what ever happened to the MSM investigating, and being present when this mass killing by the FBI went down?

 

[Faun]

Of course not. The idea is absurd. Self-immolation is extremely rare and the idea of 80 (!!) people choosing to undergo the horrible death of being burned alive is out of the question.

Earlier in this thread, I showed over 600 people who have done it. It may be rare but it's not unheard of. And again, there's evidence that they did commit suicide by torching the compound. They were heard planning it. They were seen lighting it. There were at least 3 separate fires ignited around the compound.

Only the FBI heard and saw this.... what ever happened to the MSM investigating, and being present when this mass killing by the FBI went down?

Lying doesn't help you, vagisil. They played the audio at the trial. So no, it wasn't only the FBI who heard it.

 

[Vigilante]

Earlier in this thread, I showed over 600 people who have done it. It may be rare but it's not unheard of. And again, there's evidence that they did commit suicide by torching the compound. They were heard planning it. They were seen lighting it. There were at least 3 separate fires ignited around the compound.

Only the FBI heard and saw this.... what ever happened to the MSM investigating, and being present when this mass killing by the FBI went down?

Lying doesn't help you, vagisil. They played the audio at the trial. So no, it wasn't only the FBI who heard it.

Who recorded it Spawn, and under what conditions?

 

[Faun]

Only the FBI heard and saw this.... what ever happened to the MSM investigating, and being present when this mass killing by the FBI went down?

Lying doesn't help you, vagisil. They played the audio at the trial. So no, it wasn't only the FBI who heard it.

Who recorded it Spawn, and under what conditions?

The FBI. During the final hours before the Davidians killed themselves.

Meanwhile, you falsely claimed no one but the FBI heard that audio; when in fact, it was played at the trial.

 

[Vigilante]

Lying doesn't help you, vagisil. They played the audio at the trial. So no, it wasn't only the FBI who heard it.

Who recorded it Spawn, and under what conditions?

The FBI. During the final hours before the Davidians killed themselves.

Meanwhile, you falsely claimed no one but the FBI heard that audio; when in fact, it was played at the trial.

Who said what, how did they recognize the person talking and how did they get it....Magically through the air?

 

[Faun]

Who recorded it Spawn, and under what conditions?

The FBI. During the final hours before the Davidians killed themselves.

Meanwhile, you falsely claimed no one but the FBI heard that audio; when in fact, it was played at the trial.

Who said what, how did they recognize the person talking and how did they get it....Magically through the air?

Holyfuckingshit, Vagisil... haven't you been paying attention ... ?? They planted listening devices in the compound during the standoff. That's how they got it.

Array of sophisticated gadgets used to spy on Koresh's cult Some were hidden among supplies - Baltimore Sun

 

[Vigilante]

The FBI. During the final hours before the Davidians killed themselves.

Meanwhile, you falsely claimed no one but the FBI heard that audio; when in fact, it was played at the trial.

Who said what, how did they recognize the person talking and how did they get it....Magically through the air?

Holyfuckingshit, Vagisil... haven't you been paying attention ... ?? They planted listening devices in the compound during the standoff. That's how they got it.

Array of sophisticated gadgets used to spy on Koresh's cult Some were hidden among supplies - Baltimore Sun

So who said it, and being they weren't stupid people do you think, perhaps, they KNEW bugs had been planted, and said something about chemicals being there and they may kill themselves just to PREVENT the FBI from moving in and killing them all, as they did?

I mean, this scenario is LESS FAR OUT than a video caused Benghazi! OR the IRS lost 2 years of Lerner's e-mails, but ONLY HERS!!

 

[Contumacious]

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What the son-of-a-bitch won't admit is the fact the the Davidians lived peacefully at that location for years before the Gestapo decided to improve their public image by using the Davidians as stepping stones.

What the piece of shit won't admit is that he too would become suicidal if the government was allowed to terrorized him for months, and was allowed to keep the media away from the site. He too would be suicidal if the US Attorney General was allowed to use unfounded allegations and character assassination techniques as a pretext for violently invading his residence.

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Um, yeah....

I suppose this girl was lying, then?

Interesting here we have an Agency whose females employees are accusing the Agency of allowing male agents to sexually harass them, purportedly protecting others from sexual harassment.

So what is your point? That we can prevent girls from being sexually harassed by incinerating them alive?

How come Ms Jewell did not accuse Koresch of raping her while TX CPS was investigating the allegations? Isn't it a fact that her father hated David because his wife left him for David ? Isn't it a fact that Mr Jewell was a member of a "cult busting" group?



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[MikeK]

Bullshit. There's evidence they poured fuel around the compound and there's evidence they lit it. You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to me.

I don't know what evidence there is to support that. But even if such evidence did exist the pivotal question in this issue is when they lit the match. And as I recall the fire started shortly after the breaching began. Which is to say if the breaching hadn't started the kids might be alive today and be all grown up.

Maybe a better way the FBI could have handled the situation is allow the media access to the premises to allow Koresh to tell America his side of the story, because that happens to be the primary demand Koresh was making as a condition for surrendering. But that is exactly what the feds didn't want. And as far as the ". . . For their own protection" nonsense is concerned, the FBI wouldn't even allow the Press telephone access to the Davidians. Everything the media was broadcasting and printing about the standoff, and its cause, was fed to them by the FBI.

And because a surprising percentage of the American People harbor worshipful faith in the federal "law enforcement" establishment they swallowed every drop. As they obviously continue to do.

 

[Faun]

Who said what, how did they recognize the person talking and how did they get it....Magically through the air?

Holyfuckingshit, Vagisil... haven't you been paying attention ... ?? They planted listening devices in the compound during the standoff. That's how they got it.

Array of sophisticated gadgets used to spy on Koresh's cult Some were hidden among supplies - Baltimore Sun

So who said it, and being they weren't stupid people do you think, perhaps, they KNEW bugs had been planted, and said something about chemicals being there and they may kill themselves just to PREVENT the FBI from moving in and killing them all, as they did?

Poor, Vagisil. You've completely exhausted all argument; so now, you're arguing the absurd. A Davidian was seen starting one of the fires. No less than three fires were ignited spontaneously. So no, the Davidians were not bluffing as you ignorantly suggest.

 

[Faun]

Bullshit. There's evidence they poured fuel around the compound and there's evidence they lit it. You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to me.

I don't know what evidence there is to support that. But even if such evidence did exist the pivotal question in this issue is when they lit the match. And as I recall the fire started shortly after the breaching began. Which is to say if the breaching hadn't started the kids might be alive today and be all grown up.

Maybe a better way the FBI could have handled the situation is allow the media access to the premises to allow Koresh to tell America his side of the story, because that happens to be the primary demand Koresh was making as a condition for surrendering. But that is exactly what the feds didn't want. And as far as the ". . . For their own protection" nonsense is concerned, the FBI wouldn't even allow the Press telephone access to the Davidians. Everything the media was broadcasting and printing about the standoff, and its cause, was fed to them by the FBI.

And because a surprising percentage of the American People harbor worshipful faith in the federal "law enforcement" establishment they swallowed every drop. As they obviously continue to do.

Your recollection is flawed and there really is no excuse for that given all the information being discussed here. The fires began about 6 hours after the "initial breach."

 

[Vigilante]

Holyfuckingshit, Vagisil... haven't you been paying attention ... ?? They planted listening devices in the compound during the standoff. That's how they got it.

Array of sophisticated gadgets used to spy on Koresh's cult Some were hidden among supplies - Baltimore Sun

So who said it, and being they weren't stupid people do you think, perhaps, they KNEW bugs had been planted, and said something about chemicals being there and they may kill themselves just to PREVENT the FBI from moving in and killing them all, as they did?

Poor, Vagisil. You've completely exhausted all argument; so now, you're arguing the absurd. A Davidian was seen starting one of the fires. No less than three fires were ignited spontaneously. So no, the Davidians were not bluffing as you ignorantly suggest.

Spawn, you can't possibly be this stupid. There were NO MEDIA present to record what happened, they were hundreds of yards away, you have the WORD of an FBI agent, who just had 4 fellow officers shot, and was HOT FOR REVENGE, and you STILL believe the gov't after seeing how the Clinton administration lied on Monica, and the current regime lied on everything... Damn, can I sell you a bridge in Brooklyn...cheap?

 

[auditor0007]

For some reason the fool repubs don't talk about it but it's a fact that bill clinton killed 80 some americans at waco in 1993. Burned them alive - including 30 kids. And then he threw the survivors in prison so they wouldn't talk.

This is no conspiracy theory. Everyone agrees clinton did this and hillary is married to this psychopath. I say bring it up.

Go for it.