Shut Islam Down In America

[protectionist]

Protectionist, is a stupid prejudiced ignorant dumb ass .

Now if only you presented SOMETHING upon which to base that, somebody might actually pay a little attention to you.

 

[Political Junky]

Unfortunately we cannot permit the free exercise of the Islamic faith. We do not permit the exercise of religion that requires torture and killing. We do not permit the exercise of religions that require human sacrifice for instance.

We have the death penalty.

 

[Flopper]

Congress shall make no law restricting the free exercise of religion.

I agree it's a sick cult of slavery and death, but as soon as we give government the power you're advocating the left will use that power to ban every religion they hate.

Islam is not a religion, and even if it was, that still does not give it the authority to violate the Supremacy Clause. If leftists wanted to ban something (religion or whatever) they would have to have a reason. Islam is banned because it violates the Supremacy Clause and is seditious.

Not a religion? Looks like the vast majority of Americans disagree with you as well 1.6 billion Muslims but don't let that stop you. Crazy posts like this keep the USMB interesting.
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[Avatar4321]

Congress shall make no law restricting the free exercise of religion.

I agree it's a sick cult of slavery and death, but as soon as we give government the power you're advocating the left will use that power to ban every religion they hate.

Islam is not a religion, and even if it was, that still does not give it the authority to violate the Supremacy Clause. If leftists wanted to ban something (religion or whatever) they would have to have a reason. Islam is banned because it violates the Supremacy Clause and is seditious.

How many times do you need to be corrected on it?

1) Denying that Islam is a religion isn't going to make it anything it a religion.
2) the supremacy clause gives the federal government precedence for federal law over state and international law. It has nothing to do with Islam or any other religiin?
3)even if you could find some way to make the supremacy clause applicatible, the first amendment trumps the supremacy clause as it's an amendment to the original document

This argument is ridiculous and if you tried to enforce this theory in court you'd be laughed out and then be required to pay the opposition attorneys fees

 

[Avatar4321]

And most conservatives are too ignorant and bigoted to understand First Amendment case law.

You seem to be too ignorant to understand the Supremacy Clause, (next to which. the first amendment is irrelevant). Even if Islam was a religion (which of course it isn't), it still would not be allowed to supercede the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (which of course it demands to do just that)

The first amendment overrides the supremacy clause if they ever came into conflict. A point which is academic because it doesn't apply to religions

 

[Sunni Man]

Unfortunately we cannot permit the free exercise of the Islamic faith. We do not permit the exercise of religion that requires torture and killing. We do not permit the exercise of religions that require human sacrifice for instance.

And yet 75% of American's are members of a religion who's central theme is a man named Jesus being executed on a wooden cross. ....

 

[protectionist]

We have the death penalty.

So ? The death penalty is a necessity used to PREVENT more killing. In numerous cases where it was not imposed, the result was more killing. (of innocent people)

 

[protectionist]

Not a religion? Looks like the vast majority of Americans disagree with you as well 1.6 billion Muslims but don't let that stop you. Crazy posts like this keep the USMB interesting.
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1. Of the so-called 1.6 Billion "Muslims", most are not really Muslims. In America, many people included in this number are gay, have a dog, drink alcohol on a regular basis, and wouldn't recognize the Koran if it fell on their heads. So why do they call themselves "Muslim" ? Because the parents dumped that on them when they were born.

2. 99% of the people around the world who are among the so-called 1.6 Billion "Muslims", have ancestors who were Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and of various African religions. The only reason why these people today are "Muslim" (if you dould say they are) is because their ancestors were killed refusing to convert, or they were forced to become Muslims. Hell of a way fro someone to call themself a Muslim.

3. Where do you get the idea that the "vast majority of Americans disagree" with me ? Actually, all over the world, the vast majority of people do NOT accept Islam as being a religion, and I suspect the USA is no different. Even some entire nations have classified Islam as not a religion, and deny it religious tax status, which is granted to REAL religions (Example > Italy) Islam is not an officially recognized religion in Italy, even though other religions like Buddhism and Judaism, which have far fewer followers, are. That lack of recognition not only allows Italy to control the number of mosques and prayer facilities being built and registered, but it stops the Islamic community from fully integrating. It also allows authorities to more easily monitor the mosques.

Many argue that the difficulty which members of the Muslim community have integrating and the near impossibility they face when trying to build legitimate places of worship, is precisely what has led to the increase in so-called "garage mosques", since it is virtually impossible for Muslims to pray legally.

In addition to closing the garage mosques, Italian Interior Minister Angelino Alfano says Italy will dedicate more than $1 billion to enhance security, including hiring more Arab translators to help with telephone and Internet surveillance.

All of this (and more) is what we should be doing in the United States.

Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion — Denied Religious Tax Status

Italy Drives Muslims Underground - The Daily Beast

 

[WillMunny]

Liberals are too mentally sick to ever understand that Pisslam is a praised-by-Hitler, genocidal hate ideology that has killed 300 million people and still counting. And that after muslims' 50-60 generations of cousin-inbreeding, the muslim brain is no longer genetically human. And liberals are too willfully historically ignorant to get that Pisslam has ruined EVERY society it's ever touched and has never peacefully co-existed with anyone. A 1400 year unbroken track record.

I've been studying this murderous, gutter rat death cult for years and I find Islam to be a vile bag of garbage that's so sick, so loathsome, so reprehensible, I believe only a clinical psychopath could find that theocratic cesspool attractive. Seriously, every single detail of this mud-slime subhuman culture is an exercise in EVERY odious quality known to man. This religion isn't even interesting enough to make me sick.

And most conservatives are too ignorant and bigoted to understand First Amendment case law.

The 1st Amendment DOESN'T force me to like the genocidal, rape-epidemic Pisslam bloodbath FILTH of a cult that you liberal psychopaths think is so wonderful.

 

[protectionist]

How many times do you need to be corrected on it?

1) Denying that Islam is a religion isn't going to make it anything it a religion.
2) the supremacy clause gives the federal government precedence for federal law over state and international law. It has nothing to do with Islam or any other religiin?
3)even if you could find some way to make the supremacy clause applicatible, the first amendment trumps the supremacy clause as it's an amendment to the original document

This argument is ridiculous and if you tried to enforce this theory in court you'd be laughed out and then be required to pay the opposition attorneys fees

Strike 1......Strike 2......Strike 3. You are WRONG on all 3 of your "points"

1. Islam is not a religion simply because it has no code of ethics (one of the most fundamental defining characteristics of a religion. Instead, it is a code of UNethics (mass murder, rape, pedophilia, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, slavery, animal cruelty, etc) Most people around the world agree that Islam is not a religion, and even some entire countries don't recognize it as a religion. (see Post # 28 incl, links)

2. The Supremacy Clause does do what you say, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't also declare the Constitution as the "supreme law of the land", which is the very first thing it does. And as such (and since by definition, there can only be one supreme) all supremacisms (INCLUDING ISLAM) are illegal.

3. LOL. This is one of the silliest things I've eve had to refute. LOL. Actually, just the opposite of what you said is what's true. The 1st amendment is, by far, the weakest part of the Constitution, evidenced by the many exceptions there are to it (EX. in free speech there is slander, libel, perjury, threats, fighting words, obscenity words, child pornography, sedition, treason, contractual violations, etc etc) The Supremacy Clause, a FUNDAMENTAL part of the Constitution, enacted in 1789, not just an amendment, has NEVER had an exception attached to it in the entire 227 year existence of the Constitution. It is the absolute supreme entry of the Constitution, which has no equal, and certainly nothing above it,

 

[protectionist]

The first amendment overrides the supremacy clause if they ever came into conflict. A point which is academic because it doesn't apply to religions

That was just thoroughly refuted, in the previous post.

 

[protectionist]

The 1st Amendment DOESN'T force me to like the genocidal, rape-epidemic Pisslam bloodbath FILTH of a cult that you liberal psychopaths think is so wonderful.

It also offers no protection for a phony, vile ideology of killing and hate, MASQUERADING as a religion, which is 100% illegal/unconstitutional.

 

[WillMunny]

Liberals are too mentally sick to ever understand that Pisslam is a praised-by-Hitler, genocidal hate ideology that has killed 300 million people and still counting. And that after muslims' 50-60 generations of cousin-inbreeding, the muslim brain is no longer genetically human. And liberals are too willfully historically ignorant to get that Pisslam has ruined EVERY society it's ever touched and has never peacefully co-existed with anyone. A 1400 year unbroken track record.

I've been studying this murderous, gutter rat death cult for years and I find Islam to be a vile bag of garbage that's so sick, so loathsome, so reprehensible, I believe only a clinical psychopath could find that theocratic cesspool attractive. Seriously, every single detail of this mud-slime subhuman culture is an exercise in EVERY odious quality known to man. This religion isn't even interesting enough to make me sick.

The reason why liberals tend to support these uncivilized, barbaric savages, is not because they like Islam (which they are generally clueless about), it is because they hate America, and everything we stand for. So they just naturally tend to gravitate to anything else that also hates America. Mass idiocy/lunacy.

Way ahead of you there, buddy. I've noticed that liberals are soooo consumed with guilty, Western self-hatred (in a destructive attempt to prove how NOBLE they are), that on a subconscious level, these liberal pigs sexually get off when the most anti-Western religion kills their fellow Westerners. Which is the biggest reason why I consider progressives to be pure human filth......absolutely PURE!

 

[protectionist]

And yet 75% of American's are members of a religion who's central theme is a man named Jesus being executed on a wooden cross. ....

But as Christians, we don't subscribe to engaging in sacrifice of lives, regardless of how much we may revere the sacrifice that was done for us 2016 years ago. And the thread TOPIC is about Islam, not Christianity, so please refrain from going OFF TOPIC. You have the right and capability to start your own thread with Christianity as the subject matter if you wish. This thread is about Islam.

 

[protectionist]

Way ahead of you there, buddy. I've noticed that liberals are soooo consumed with guilty, Western self-hatred (in a destructive attempt to prove how NOBLE they are), that on a subconscious level, these liberal pigs sexually get off when the most anti-Western religion kills their fellow Westerners. Which is the biggest reason why I consider progressives to be pure human filth......absolutely PURE!

You are spot on. Right on the money.

The pathological loons don't know how wacked out they are, and why wouldn't they be ?, when real information they need to know, is WITHHELD from them on the liberal media (ex MSNBC). ie. Information like what I posted in Post # 28 and 30 (which I would encourage you to read). And WELCOME to the forum.

 

[bravoactual]

Islam, a murderous, immoral lunacy, masquerading as a religion, has no business functioning in America. While its Koran principles are violations of scores of US laws, one really need look no further than the Constitution, to see how Islam is totally out of place in America. As the world's # 1 supremacism, Islam is banned by the Constitution which does nor permit supremacisms in the US (other than the Constitution itself)

In addition to this, Islam is in violation of US Code 18, Section 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy) and US Code 18, section 2385 (Overthrow of govt).. if all that weren't enough, Islam is in violation of scores of US laws (murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination, animal cruelty, etc)

As with immigration, this is simply a case of Government not enforcing its laws. The US govt should close all the mosques, close down all Islamic centers, eliminate all Korans from libraries, bookstores, schools, etc. All Muslim immigration into the US should cease, and Muslim emigration should be encouraged, and funded to help Muslims be able to leave the country.

Article 6, Section 2

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing [sic] in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2384

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

Article VI.

"But no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

1st Amendment United States Constitution.

"Congress Shall Make No Law Respecting An Establishment of Religion or Prohibiting The Free Exercise Thereof".

There is NO STATE SPONSORED, STATE SUPPORTED, STATE FUNDED, STATE FINANCED, STATE SANCTIONED, STATE MANDATED RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES.

The Right To Religious Freedom in the U.S. is not limited to any singular religion.

You do not get to decide who worships what version of god other people wish or do not wish or worship.

 

[protectionist]

Then we should and must shut down Christianity as well.

That makes about as much sense as shutting down bird-watching organizations, rock bands, and the ASPCA.

Try reading the thread, rather than jumping in here posting stuff that has already been squashed like a pancake.

 

[protectionist]

Article VI.

"But no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

First of all, since (as has already been explained) Islam is not a religion, that section of the Constitution has no bearing on this. Here is the part of the Constitution that does

Article VI. Section 2 >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing [sic] in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

 

[jillian]

Islam, a murderous, immoral lunacy, masquerading as a religion, has no business functioning in America. While its Koran principles are violations of scores of US laws, one really need look no further than the Constitution, to see how Islam is totally out of place in America. As the world's # 1 supremacism, Islam is banned by the Constitution which does nor permit supremacisms in the US (other than the Constitution itself)

In addition to this, Islam is in violation of US Code 18, Section 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy) and US Code 18, section 2385 (Overthrow of govt).. if all that weren't enough, Islam is in violation of scores of US laws (murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination, animal cruelty, etc)

As with immigration, this is simply a case of Government not enforcing its laws. The US govt should close all the mosques, close down all Islamic centers, eliminate all Korans from libraries, bookstores, schools, etc. All Muslim immigration into the US should cease, and Muslim emigration should be encouraged, and funded to help Muslims be able to leave the country.

Article 6, Section 2

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing [sic] in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2384

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both

Well that makes the DemoKKKrats illegal!!!!

Greg

poor lying nutter.... the kkk is yours now. they have been since the 60's... so wtf are you talking about, psycho?

 

[jillian]

Then we should and must shut down Christianity as well.

That makes about as much sense as shutting down bird-watching organizations, rock bands, and the ASPCA.

Try reading the thread, rather than jumping in here posting stuff that has already been squashed like a pancake.

um.... so the first amendment doesn't apply to non-Christians? you gonna stick with that?