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How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
And then why did we only get 1.6% economic growth for his time in office?
Ah, a "numbers guy".....
Post the growth rate of discretionary spending Under Obama........post the same number for his predecessor...
leave the determination of which is larger to me....
thanks....
Name a major industrialized nation paying a larger percentage of GDP for health care than the US.......Single Payer .. Medicare for ALL
the 65 and over crowd already has single payer ...
the rub..
only the more affluent will face a slight TAX increase.
can't have that shit now can we ?
Bullshit. The day this country goes to SP will see the largest tax hike in history on EVERYBODY. Either that or the largest deficits in history.
Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.
The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.
What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
Kinda like the VA? I think you are somewhat detached from reality if you're believing all the crap that some on the Left is pushing out there. All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Do you remember when Obama and the Dems told us how the ACA wouldn't add one thin dime to the national debt? And when they told us if you like your plan you can keep your plan? Or your doctor? It was all lies, just to get their law passed and they knew damn well it was a lie to begin with. And now you want me to believe SP would be the long sought panacea for health care? Sorry, been down that road too many times, I don't believe a word of it.
Name a major industrialized nation paying a larger percentage of GDP for health care than the US.......Single Payer .. Medicare for ALL
the 65 and over crowd already has single payer ...
the rub..
only the more affluent will face a slight TAX increase.
can't have that shit now can we ?
Bullshit. The day this country goes to SP will see the largest tax hike in history on EVERYBODY. Either that or the largest deficits in history.
Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.
The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.
What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
Kinda like the VA? I think you are somewhat detached from reality if you're believing all the crap that some on the Left is pushing out there. All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Do you remember when Obama and the Dems told us how the ACA wouldn't add one thin dime to the national debt? And when they told us if you like your plan you can keep your plan? Or your doctor? It was all lies, just to get their law passed and they knew damn well it was a lie to begin with. And now you want me to believe SP would be the long sought panacea for health care? Sorry, been down that road too many times, I don't believe a word of it.
Doesn't make a damn bit of difference. If you guys on the Left think you can just take that spending and pay for SP with it, well more power to ya. Ain't gonna happen though, it just isn't that simple. And you don't provide any answers to my questions either, like Siete didn't. Which your side is going to need to convince most Americans to go for the the SP idea. Or you lie your asses off, like you usually do.
How did they do THAT?
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
And then why did we only get 1.6% economic growth for his time in office?
Ah, a "numbers guy".....
Post the growth rate of discretionary spending Under Obama........post the same number for his predecessor...
leave the determination of which is larger to me....
thanks....
Silly liberal! Discretionary spending is the SMALL part of the budget. It's all the mandatory entitlement spending and interest on the ever rising debt that is causing the problems. Things like Medicare, BOcare, etc make up 65% of spending and it is NON-discretionary.
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Bucktooth,How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
Bucktooth,How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
Great thing about that plug.......the Bucketmouths just can't contain themselves.....Bucktooth,How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
There is nothing logical about your "logical extension except that you area bloody idiot.
Medicare is available to ALL over 65, even if they are millionaires, so choice has nothing to do with it.
BTW people on death row probably eat better than you.
Why don't you link me to the source for this 5/3 Assault on Our National Maidenhead?I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...like that....How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers", even under a Director appointed by a Republican Congress? This, after a commendable effort on the part of republicans at every level, to sabotage the outcome.
I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...
Counting 5 years of revenues versus 3 years of spending isn't fake?
What do you call it?
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers",
Garbage in, garbage out.
Garbage in, garbage out.
The workings of the CBO are a complete mystery to you, aren't they.....
Single Payer .. Medicare for ALL
the 65 and over crowd already has single payer ...
the rub..
only the more affluent will face a slight TAX increase.
can't have that shit now can we ?
Bullshit. The day this country goes to SP will see the largest tax hike in history on EVERYBODY. Either that or the largest deficits in history.
Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.
The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.
What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
Name a major industrialized nation paying a larger percentage of GDP for health care than the US.......Bullshit. The day this country goes to SP will see the largest tax hike in history on EVERYBODY. Either that or the largest deficits in history.
Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.
The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.
What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
Kinda like the VA? I think you are somewhat detached from reality if you're believing all the crap that some on the Left is pushing out there. All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Do you remember when Obama and the Dems told us how the ACA wouldn't add one thin dime to the national debt? And when they told us if you like your plan you can keep your plan? Or your doctor? It was all lies, just to get their law passed and they knew damn well it was a lie to begin with. And now you want me to believe SP would be the long sought panacea for health care? Sorry, been down that road too many times, I don't believe a word of it.
Doesn't make a damn bit of difference. If you guys on the Left think you can just take that spending and pay for SP with it, well more power to ya. Ain't gonna happen though, it just isn't that simple. And you don't provide any answers to my questions either, like Siete didn't. Which your side is going to need to convince most Americans to go for the the SP idea. Or you lie your asses off, like you usually do.If you can't name one, I'm obliged to conclude that you are lying.....All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Whine all you want cons, the future belongs to the kind. The past belongs to the selfish. Go find the little house on the prairie and die from a broken leg.
Todd,Why don't you link me to the source for this 5/3 Assault on Our National Maidenhead?I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...like that....How did they do THAT?
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers", even under a Director appointed by a Republican Congress? This, after a commendable effort on the part of republicans at every level, to sabotage the outcome.
I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...
Counting 5 years of revenues versus 3 years of spending isn't fake?
What do you call it?
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers",
Garbage in, garbage out.
Garbage in, garbage out.
The workings of the CBO are a complete mystery to you, aren't they.....
When you score a couple of extra years of taxes collected, before you start the spending,
of course the finances will look dishonestly better.
Not a mystery to me. You apparently fell for it.
Name a major industrialized nation paying a larger percentage of GDP for health care than the US.......Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.
The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.
What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
Kinda like the VA? I think you are somewhat detached from reality if you're believing all the crap that some on the Left is pushing out there. All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Do you remember when Obama and the Dems told us how the ACA wouldn't add one thin dime to the national debt? And when they told us if you like your plan you can keep your plan? Or your doctor? It was all lies, just to get their law passed and they knew damn well it was a lie to begin with. And now you want me to believe SP would be the long sought panacea for health care? Sorry, been down that road too many times, I don't believe a word of it.
Doesn't make a damn bit of difference. If you guys on the Left think you can just take that spending and pay for SP with it, well more power to ya. Ain't gonna happen though, it just isn't that simple. And you don't provide any answers to my questions either, like Siete didn't. Which your side is going to need to convince most Americans to go for the the SP idea. Or you lie your asses off, like you usually do.If you can't name one, I'm obliged to conclude that you are lying.....All you gotta do is look at what's going on in other countries, many of which are having fiscal problems with HC and the other social safety net programs.
Here you go, and you might want to hold off a tad on calling people a liar:
Or consider the case of France, once rated as providing the “best overall health care” by the World Health Organization. And indeed, France’s single-payer government health plan is famously generous, paying for spa care and massages and other high-end services under the rubric of “preventive care.”
Not coincidentally, the French health care system is going broke, according to a 2013 Bloomberg Businessweek report. Although French President Francois Hollande has pursued modest reforms, the system still posts billions of euros in annual deficits.
“Reform is needed fast,” Willy Hodin, the head of an organization representing French pharmacies, tells Bloomberg. “The most optimistic believe this system can survive another five to six years. The less optimistic don’t think it will last more than three.”
Similar challenges can be found in Germany, which has a two-tiered health care system in which most of the population (about 90%) is covered by the state system, while the remaining 10 percent, primarily high-earners and self-employed individuals, purchase private insurance for their coverage.
But exploding costs, rising more rapidly than inflation, brought a round of unpopular reforms in 2010 that shifted more of the costs to employers and workers. Those measures likely won’t be the last.
Healthcare Lessons From Europe
Great thing about that plug.......the Bucketmouths just can't contain themselves.....Bucktooth,How did they do THAT?
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
What earthly logic suggests that a POTUS is "responsible" for debt beginning from his first day in office?
Cutting to the quick?
Absolutely none.
The FIRST date you SHOULD look at is Sept. 30, following Inauguration. I'll wait right here, while you explain why to Bucktooth.
Once Bucktooth's vacant gaze returns, we can begin to make whatever reasonable adjustments to that number you want - but it will involve math and documentation.
Todd,Why don't you link me to the source for this 5/3 Assault on Our National Maidenhead?I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...like that....CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers", even under a Director appointed by a Republican Congress? This, after a commendable effort on the part of republicans at every level, to sabotage the outcome.
I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...
Counting 5 years of revenues versus 3 years of spending isn't fake?
What do you call it?
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers",
Garbage in, garbage out.
Garbage in, garbage out.
The workings of the CBO are a complete mystery to you, aren't they.....
When you score a couple of extra years of taxes collected, before you start the spending,
of course the finances will look dishonestly better.
Not a mystery to me. You apparently fell for it.
Pay attention now, Todd......On THAT particular point you are short a citation.....
Bucktooth,How did they do THAT?
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
and he gets credit for every cent of interest from 43's legislation ..
You know what I don't see a lot of, in DS's version?Great thing about that plug.......the Bucketmouths just can't contain themselves.....Bucktooth,CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
What earthly logic suggests that a POTUS is "responsible" for debt beginning from his first day in office?
Cutting to the quick?
Absolutely none.
The FIRST date you SHOULD look at is Sept. 30, following Inauguration. I'll wait right here, while you explain why to Bucktooth.
Once Bucktooth's vacant gaze returns, we can begin to make whatever reasonable adjustments to that number you want - but it will involve math and documentation.
What earthly logic suggests that a POTUS is "responsible" for debt beginning from his first day in office?
How much of FY 2009 spending was signed by Obama?
How much of his "stimulus" was spent in FY 2009?
Cutting to the quick?
Absolutely none.
Wrong.......
Usually, the president in office prior to a new president would have helped craft and sign into law government spending bills applied to the first 9 months of spending the next year and a president’s new term. A fiscal year starts on October 1 of the year prior to the calendar year to September 30th of the calendar year. In other words the fiscal year starts three months early.
In FY2009, Congress did not complete work by September 30, 2008. President Bush did sign some appropriations bills and a continuing resolution to keep the government running into President Obama’s first term, yet a Democrat controlled Congress purposely held off on the big spending portions of the appropriations bills until Obama took office. They did so for the purposes of jacking up spending. President Obama signed the final FY2009 spending bills on March 11, 2009.
The Truth about President Obama's Skyrocketing Spending
What do you figure his record paid of The Wages of Supply Side Idiocy?Bucktooth,CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
I'm gonna do you a solid so that you don't go through the rest of your life as pathetically stupid as you are now....
a) it didn't.......At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion........at the end of FY 2016 it stood at 19.5....unless you anticipate a monster deficit and a bumper crop of Social Security payments (a highly unlikely twofer), we ain't getting to 23.75 by Sept. 30 of this year..........Unless The Yam decides to buy another casino with OPM.
b) as a likely recidivist supply side voting imbecile (an unavoidable conclusion judging by your avatar and handle) you MUST acquaint yourself with the concept of Structural Deficit......
At the end of FY 2009 the Gross Debt stood at 11.875 Trillion
Why are you charging Bush for bank TARP money that was repaid a year or two later?
Or for "stimulus" bills passed by Obama? Or for government funding bills held up by Dems so
Obama could sign larger ones after January 2009?
Why are you crediting Obama with the repayment of those TARP funds?
The day Obama took office, the debt was $10.6 trillion.
When he left, it was $19.9 trillion.
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
You can check for yourself.
and he gets credit for every cent of interest from 43's legislation ..
and he gets credit for every cent of interest from 43's legislation
I know, all those really low interest rates.
And then Obama got all those record high Federal Reserve profits.
They were running $100 billion or so a year for a while.
