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So Is the President Above the Law

That appears to be where he Trump defense is headed.

Your thoughts?

Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

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Feel free to provide a Trump quote that resembles that in any way.


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Giuliani is saying that a President cannot be subpoenaed. That is patently false.


Really, name one president that ever testified to a grand jury because of a subpoena.


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The Crisis started when Progressives turned the FBI into their Gestapo

You are a true Trump crazy. The FBI is not nor has it ever been the Gestapo. Trump and his supporters want to jail their political enemies. You people are the ones who want to bring back the Gestapo.
 
That appears to be where he Trump defense is headed.

Your thoughts?


He is not above the law, but what has Trump done to make you think otherwise?

Statements from his legal team.


Nothing they have said so far hints at illegallity........

It is obvious from public statements from his legal team that they are angling for the idea that the President cannot obstruct justice since it is quite obvious that Mueller is looking hard at obstruction.


What would he have done that obstructed Justice? Considering there is no Russian collusion, other than when hilary was doing it through her foundation when she was Secretary of State......

Why not wait to see what the Special Counsel investigation reveals? Did you read the questions that Suckylow wrote down after talking to Mueller's prosecutors? Trump is a subject in an investigation into Obstruction of Justice. Whether there is enough evidence of intent remains to be seen. I'm waiting for the Special Counsel report.
 
That appears to be where he Trump defense is headed.

Your thoughts?

Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-nixon-136312.jpg


Feel free to provide a Trump quote that resembles that in any way.


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How about "I could shoot someone on the street and not lose support."?


That was said as a candidate, not as president. Care to try again?


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No, I effectively made no my point. Trump believes he is above the law, regardless of job title.
 
That appears to be where he Trump defense is headed.

Your thoughts?

Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-nixon-136312.jpg

tell us specifically which federal statute Trump has violated. Be specific or STFU

Obstruction of justice 18 U.S.C. § 1503

whoever . . . . corruptly
or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."

By asking Comey to drop Flynn's case while knowing full well that Flynn commited perjury Trump has clearly endeavored to corruptly influence an officer of the law.

P.S. STFU


where is the evidence of that? Its just comey's word and we know that Comey is a liar, that is well established.

Now, shall we discuss the obstruction of justice by Obama, lynch, comey, Clinton, McCabe, Holder. No? didn't think so.

The fact is that Comey is more trustworthy than Trump. The Trump lies are in the thousands and it is well-established that Trump is the liar.

There was no obstruction of justice except by Republicans in Congress.
 
Obstruction of justice 18 U.S.C. § 1503

whoever . . . . corruptly
or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."

By asking Comey to drop Flynn's case while knowing full well that Flynn commited perjury Trump has clearly endeavored to corruptly influence an officer of the law.

P.S. STFU


where is the evidence of that? Its just comey's word and we know that Comey is a liar, that is well established.

Now, shall we discuss the obstruction of justice by Obama, lynch, comey, Clinton, McCabe, Holder. No? didn't think so.

Comey kept contemporaneous memos when it happened and shared this with his co-workers. He also TESTIFIED UNDER OATH BEFORE CONGRESS.

On the other side of that we have public denials of pathological liar Trump and dupes like you.

And the contemporaneous notes taken by someone he told, echo Comey's notes taken at the time. Comey would be quite happy if there were tapes of the conversation. That's not the statements of someone who thinks he will be caught lying.

Top ex-DOJ official's notes appear to corroborate James Comey's testimony on Trump

Immediately after that conversation, I called Acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente, to report the substance of the call from the President, and said I would await his guidance. I did not hear back from him before the President called me again two weeks later," Comey said of the late-March encounter to the Senate Intelligence Committee during a hearing June of 2017. Sessions had already by that point recused himself of all Russia-related investigations.

In the Boente's handwritten notes obtained by MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, Boente said, "cloud as a result of Russia business. This makes running the country difficult," echoing the exact words Comey had told congressional investigators.


Two stories, same origin. Kind of like Steele giving the dossier to the FBI and then telling the same story to the media. Then the media story was used to bolster the dossier in the FISA application as a separate source.


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No. It's like you and I having a conversation. When we are done, I immediately write down what you said and tell someone who also writes it down at that time. (That is what contemporaneous means.)

You didn't write anything down or tell anyone at the time. Which side of our conversation is more likely to stand up in court?


A perfect example of circular reasoning, I create a story, tell it to you and you swear to it. For that to have any validity you must first prove the original story was accurate. Considering Comey has proven himself to be a self serving flake, I think you'd have a hard time making any case for its accuracy.


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Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-nixon-136312.jpg

tell us specifically which federal statute Trump has violated. Be specific or STFU

Obstruction of justice 18 U.S.C. § 1503

whoever . . . . corruptly
or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."

By asking Comey to drop Flynn's case while knowing full well that Flynn commited perjury Trump has clearly endeavored to corruptly influence an officer of the law.

P.S. STFU


where is the evidence of that? Its just comey's word and we know that Comey is a liar, that is well established.

Now, shall we discuss the obstruction of justice by Obama, lynch, comey, Clinton, McCabe, Holder. No? didn't think so.

Comey kept compteporanious memos when it happened and shared this with his co-workers. He also TESTIFIED UNDER OATH BEFORE CONGRESS.

On the other side of that we have public denials of pathological liar Trump and dupes like you.


Comey lied under oath, that has been well established. Memos, eh? like the exoneration memo he wrote about Hillary before any witness testimony and before interviewing her? Comey is a partisan hack, the worst possible kind of FBI director. He should be in jail with Lynch and Clinton.

Comey did not lie under oath and it has not been well-established. he did. Comey wrote the memo after witness testimony and before they interviewed Clinton. They had also examined the e-mails. This is not Perry Mason where the murderer confesses before the last commercial. This is the same Comey that informed Congress they had found new e-mails the weekend before the election.
 
Only the radical fringe lib loons think we're in a constitutional crisis. The rest of the country has moved on past muellers carnival.

Really? Can you support your claim with polling data?

Even with GOP frustrations, a majority of Republicans (56 percent) say Mueller should be allowed to finish his investigation, while almost a quarter think he should be fired and 20 percent are undecided. Among all adults polled, 65 percent say Mueller should be retained, 15 percent want him terminated, and 20 percent aren't sure.​


whose poll? CNN, MSNBC, NY times? was it the same pollster who said that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes?

Well look who's not pretending to ignore me anymore...

It Wasn't the Polls That Missed, It Was the Pundits


I took you off of ignore to give you a chance, mess it up and right back on ignore. Post intelligently and we can debate the issues. post stupidly and with ignorant partisan bias and we wont. Its simple.

You're not as an accomplished a liar Trump. You don't have his bravado.

I love when hyper partisans call me partisan.
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I simply post the truth, you should know that by now. but I guess you have trouble dealing with the truth like most liberals.

as to Trump, he is a new Yorker, have you ever been to new York? everyone talks and acts like he does.
 
Only the radical fringe lib loons think we're in a constitutional crisis. The rest of the country has moved on past muellers carnival.

Really? Can you support your claim with polling data?

Even with GOP frustrations, a majority of Republicans (56 percent) say Mueller should be allowed to finish his investigation, while almost a quarter think he should be fired and 20 percent are undecided. Among all adults polled, 65 percent say Mueller should be retained, 15 percent want him terminated, and 20 percent aren't sure.​


whose poll? CNN, MSNBC, NY times? was it the same pollster who said that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes?

Well look who's not pretending to ignore me anymore...

It Wasn't the Polls That Missed, It Was the Pundits


I took you off of ignore to give you a chance, mess it up and right back on ignore. Post intelligently and we can debate the issues. post stupidly and with ignorant partisan bias and we wont. Its simple.

You're not as an accomplished a liar Trump. You don't have his bravado.

I love when hyper partisans call me partisan.
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racist!
 
tell us specifically which federal statute Trump has violated. Be specific or STFU

Obstruction of justice 18 U.S.C. § 1503

whoever . . . . corruptly
or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."

By asking Comey to drop Flynn's case while knowing full well that Flynn commited perjury Trump has clearly endeavored to corruptly influence an officer of the law.

P.S. STFU


where is the evidence of that? Its just comey's word and we know that Comey is a liar, that is well established.

Now, shall we discuss the obstruction of justice by Obama, lynch, comey, Clinton, McCabe, Holder. No? didn't think so.

Comey kept compteporanious memos when it happened and shared this with his co-workers. He also TESTIFIED UNDER OATH BEFORE CONGRESS.

On the other side of that we have public denials of pathological liar Trump and dupes like you.


Comey lied under oath, that has been well established. Memos, eh? like the exoneration memo he wrote about Hillary before any witness testimony and before interviewing her? Comey is a partisan hack, the worst possible kind of FBI director. He should be in jail with Lynch and Clinton.

Comey did not lie under oath and it has not been well-established. he did. Comey wrote the memo after witness testimony and before they interviewed Clinton. They had also examined the e-mails. This is not Perry Mason where the murderer confesses before the last commercial. This is the same Comey that informed Congress they had found new e-mails the weekend before the election.


LOL, you libs amuse me with your CNN bullshit. wake up to reality before its too late.
 
Mueller will public provide his report within 6 to 8 weeks before the elections.


so you admit that this is nothing but a partisan game of propaganda?
Yes, you and yours, I admit, are engaged in partisan propaganda.


can you honestly say that Mueller is not on a partisan witch hunt because Trump beat Hillary? Try to answer honestly for just once. Would this be going on if Hillary had won? of course not.
 
The alt right cons and their Christian con allies are so filled with hate and rage, as they see the end times for Trump approach.


that's funny coming from one of the biggest haters on USMB. you are as dumb when you post as jakey as when you post as your sock rightwinger. How do you choose which user name to use?
 
That appears to be where he Trump defense is headed.

Your thoughts?

Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-nixon-136312.jpg


Feel free to provide a Trump quote that resembles that in any way.


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How about "I could shoot someone on the street and not lose support."?


That was said as a candidate, not as president. Care to try again?


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No, I effectively made no my point. Trump believes he is above the law, regardless of job title.


The only point you effectively made, is you have no sense of humor.


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Been there, done that. Trump defense will fail miserably.

quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-nixon-136312.jpg


Feel free to provide a Trump quote that resembles that in any way.


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How about "I could shoot someone on the street and not lose support."?


That was said as a candidate, not as president. Care to try again?


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No, I effectively made no my point. Trump believes he is above the law, regardless of job title.


The only point you effectively made, is you have no sense of humor.


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no sense of humor is part of the defective liberal genetic makeup.
 
Obstruction of justice 18 U.S.C. § 1503

whoever . . . . corruptly
or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."

By asking Comey to drop Flynn's case while knowing full well that Flynn commited perjury Trump has clearly endeavored to corruptly influence an officer of the law.

P.S. STFU


where is the evidence of that? Its just comey's word and we know that Comey is a liar, that is well established.

Now, shall we discuss the obstruction of justice by Obama, lynch, comey, Clinton, McCabe, Holder. No? didn't think so.

Comey kept compteporanious memos when it happened and shared this with his co-workers. He also TESTIFIED UNDER OATH BEFORE CONGRESS.

On the other side of that we have public denials of pathological liar Trump and dupes like you.

Comey lied under oath, that has been well established.

No moron it has not. If it was, Comey would get INDICTED for lying under oath by this Republican congress in all of two seconds.

Comey was also a lifelong REPUBLICAN, which means if he was partisan it would be ANTI-HILLARY, PRO-TRUMP.

Do you idiots ever get tired of being blatantly wrong on just about everything you post?


Comey was a rino at best, not a republican. He was clearly trying to do everything in his power to get crooked Hillary elected-----and he failed. Now he is making up lies to cover his illegal acts and covert activities.

Fear not, he will be brought to justice. the Clintons are above the law so they will continue to skate. Sad but true.

Wrong again, Comey went out of his way (and broke DOJ policy) to publicly shit on Clinton by holding a press conference and then t-boned her again 7 days before election, possibly changing the outcome In Trump’s favor.

Do you know what Comey’s official firing letter said? It said he is getting fired for going too rough on Hillary.
 
The only people denying that there is an alt right are the regressive alt right cons and Fake Alt Right Media outlets like Breitbart, etc. We know that the fake news generated by Trump and his allies are all lies to engender an Alt Right agenda to destroy the American Republic.

Part of the "agenda" is to suggest Obama and the Clintons and their real American supporters have somehow subverted our American political processes. That lie will be rejected this November.

One by one, the anti-Trump resistance is checking off policy goals despite rabid opposition by the far right and alt right anti American forces. The tax and budget bill were passed by partisanship, despite the screaming from the far right. Gorsuch has turned out to be an appointment that most Americans support.

The pro Trump alt right is using fake news to suggest what he did was not as bad as Clinton or Nixon. That is a lie.

The agenda is to downplay the seriousness of the Trump disaster.

AL, NJ, WI, VA, in national and state races the Dems have been steadily winning since last fall as the Dems have moved from the left-center toward the center will the idiot alt right cons keep trying to run far right weirdos like Moore and Blankenship.

All that hopey-trump nonsense is being flushed down the toilet.


your partisan ignorance is amazing. Nothing in your post is true. 100% bullshit far left wing talking points an lies.

November 2018 and 2020 will be the end of the left wing of the dem party forever. You failed, you lost, America rejected your socialist anti-constitution ideology. Obama and the Clintons have managed to destroy the party of Truman and Kennedy and its the fault of people like you who support these traitors.

Democrats have done better in special elections than they have in 2016. Trump won Arizona 8 by 21 yet Republicans retained it by 5 points. Democrats flipped a Pennsylvania Congressional District that went for Trump by 21. In every congressional special election Democrats have had stronger showings. Democrats are running candidates that fit the districts they are running in.
 
The alt right cons and their Christian con allies are so filled with hate and rage, as they see the end times for Trump approach.


that's funny coming from one of the biggest haters on USMB. you are as dumb when you post as jakey as when you post as your sock rightwinger. How do you choose which user name to use?
Anyone can compare your hate-rage speech to my generally even and factually based observations, Redfish.

I am no more a soc than you are an American patriot. I post as one poster, and you can post as ten and still equal maybe one-tenth of what I do and say here for the good. Just the way it is.
 

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