So much for the "art of the deal": How Trump's trade antics backfire....

nat4900

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Trump's initial derision of NATO (which he later flip-flopped on) and the threat of imposing tariffs on the EU (especially on Germany), and a variety of other off-the-cuff threats, are backfiring...resulting in a better paraphrasing of his slogan, "Make America Lose gain..."

Japan and Europe counter Trump with colossal trade deal.......

Leaders from Japan and the European Union announced their agreement in principle on a trade deal that will cover nearly 30 percent of the global economy.

Japan and Europe counter Trump with colossal trade deal
 
Good, they can pay for their own defense when China, North Korea, and Russia invade them.

And bailout these European countries when they can't pay their bills

In other words, we have been BRIBING Europe for 70 years to do our bidding?

It is called looking out for yourself. If Europe, Japan, or anyone else is in trouble, but we have no financial or other reason to help why should we especially if they are trying to screw us.
 
It is called looking out for yourself. If Europe, Japan, or anyone else is in trouble, but we have no financial or other reason to help why should we especially if they are trying to screw us.


They are NOT trying "to screw us".......Trump has just compelled them to seek better business deals from other countries other than the U.S.

You see, the 'art of the deal" was just one of the many bullshits that your ilk gladly swallowed.
 
They are NOT trying "to screw us".......Trump has just compelled them to seek better business deals from other countries other than the U.S.

You see, the 'art of the deal" was just one of the many bullshits that your ilk gladly swallowed.

Right and when a European country needs help they can talk to Japan which aren't in the best postion to help.
 
They are NOT trying "to screw us".......Trump has just compelled them to seek better business deals from other countries other than the U.S.

You see, the 'art of the deal" was just one of the many bullshits that your ilk gladly swallowed.

Right and when a European country needs help they can talk to Japan which aren't in the best postion to help.
Why not talk to the empire with military bases and/or installations on your land mass?
 
They are NOT trying "to screw us".......Trump has just compelled them to seek better business deals from other countries other than the U.S.

You see, the 'art of the deal" was just one of the many bullshits that your ilk gladly swallowed.

Right and when a European country needs help they can talk to Japan which aren't in the best postion to help.
Why not talk to the empire with military bases and/or installations on your land mass?

That is when we bring them to get a better trade deal with us when their backs are against the wall.
 
Right and when a European country needs help they can talk to Japan which aren't in the best postion to help.


Well, the French helped us against the Brits in the Revolution, and the Brits helped us in the Civil War...all NOT because of "altruism".....
 
They are NOT trying "to screw us".......Trump has just compelled them to seek better business deals from other countries other than the U.S.

You see, the 'art of the deal" was just one of the many bullshits that your ilk gladly swallowed.

Right and when a European country needs help they can talk to Japan which aren't in the best postion to help.
Why not talk to the empire with military bases and/or installations on your land mass?

That is when we bring them to get a better trade deal with us when their backs are against the wall.
No hon, that's empire and colonialism.
 
Dream much????

Japan is just now recovering. It is way too early for the EU to be siding with Japan over the US.

No hon, that's empire and colonialism.

That is called smart. It happens all the time. If you try to be nice when you go to negotiate with someone and they won't you wait until they are at their weakest.


Yes, nothing confirms MORE American jobs, than to have our exports rejected by Europe looking toward Japan for these commodities........LOL
 
Let me first say I don't agree with the bases being around the world:

No, it is called military occupation

One that Europe and the other areas have benefited from.

Yes, nothing confirms MORE American jobs, than to have our exports rejected by Europe looking toward Japan for these commodities........LOL

Your not getting it. These countries depend on us for military and we are also one of the biggest markets in the world by not giving us a good deal they are hurting themselves as well.
 
And according to the OP's article the TPP may still come to pass for the remaining 11 countries in the deal. Trump may not have to install massive tariffs and subsidies after all, since nobody's going to want our stuff anyways.
 
The American worker got screwed under Obama's stupid ass trade deals, Trump could hardly do any worse.
 
The American worker got screwed under Obama's stupid ass trade deals, Trump could hardly do any worse.
Trump just spurned our trade partners and so instead they made a deal by themselves with each other to our detriment. I'd say that's worse.
 
Barry Hussein presided over a stagnant economy for eight years while he kissed the ass of every two bit dictator in the freaking world. The Iran "treaty" stands as the worst pile of crap in history. Does anyone know why Hussein ordered the military to deliver boxcars of U.S. dollars and euros to Iran? Nobody on the left seems to care. Trump has been in office for about six months and the DOW has gone through the roof. Give him a break lefties. It's your Country too.
 
Barry Hussein presided over a stagnant economy for eight years while he kissed the ass of every two bit dictator in the freaking world. The Iran "treaty" stands as the worst pile of crap in history. Does anyone know why Hussein ordered the military to deliver boxcars of U.S. dollars and euros to Iran? Nobody on the left seems to care. Trump has been in office for about six months and the DOW has gone through the roof. Give him a break lefties. It's your Country too.
The Dow went up 12,000 points under Obama. Let me know if Trump ever gets close to that.
 

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