So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.

It would absolutely NOT. We are a nation of immigrants.

Patently FALSE.

We are a nation of LEGAL Immigrants.

Lying by omission is still lying

Yes, and many of our refugees are LEGAL and were vetted over a period of 2 years.

So we make them a promise, we help them to assimilate and get on their feet - and they then contribute mightily to our economy and cultural fabric. Under the Beavis Miller plan, they would be returned to places like Syria and "shithole" countries in Africa.

Fuck Beavis Miller

Rescue lives in Boise, ID
 
This is where the GOP takes a dangerous turn.

The discussion about illegal immigration is perfectly valid and reasonable, even though neither party is willing to address the biggest problem of all, the turning of a blind eye to American businesses that hire illegals.

But when you start going after LEGAL immigrants who are not (yet) cutting the mustard, it muddies the waters, weakens the argument and starts to look punitive.

As usual, Trump is playing strictly to his base, regardless of the consequences.
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This is where the GOP takes a dangerous turn.

The discussion about illegal immigration is perfectly valid and reasonable, even though neither party is willing to address the biggest problem of all, the turning of a blind eye to American businesses that hire illegals.

But when you start going after LEGAL immigrants who are not (yet) cutting the mustard, it muddies the waters, weakens the argument and starts to look punitive.

As usual, Trump is playing strictly to his base, regardless of the consequences.
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---------------------------------------------------- PUNITIVE , seems to me that immigration of all types has been PUNITIVE to Real Americans since 1965 or 1966 until Trump came along and he is trying to fix things . I say , feck it , get as many imported people out of the USA now when it looks like can be done and set things and laws up to be anti immigration as far into the future as possible Mac .
Well, we'll see what the voters outside of Trump's base think of that, I reckon.
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Who exactly is Trump’s Base?
Why would you want an Executive Branch tailored for the other end of the spectrum?
(Disclaimer: there is no middle ground.)
In case you didn’t know.
“Trump is playing to his base.”...WTF does that even mean?
 
Yes, and many of our refugees are LEGAL and were vetted over a period of 2 years.

So we make them a promise, we help them to assimilate and get on their feet - and they then contribute mightily to our economy and cultural fabric. Under the Beavis Miller plan, they would be returned to places like Syria and "shithole" countries in Africa.

Fuck Beavis Miller

Rescue lives in Boise, ID

Any change in the Law won't affect current residents who are here LEGALLY.

Ever read the US Constitution? Didn't think so.

There's a part in there about Ex Post Facto Law.

If Trump changes the rule, it will apply from that point on.

You people get worked up over nothing. Take a pill fer chrissakes
 
Yes, and many of our refugees are LEGAL and were vetted over a period of 2 years.

So we make them a promise, we help them to assimilate and get on their feet - and they then contribute mightily to our economy and cultural fabric. Under the Beavis Miller plan, they would be returned to places like Syria and "shithole" countries in Africa.

Fuck Beavis Miller

Rescue lives in Boise, ID

Any change in the Law won't affect current residents who are here LEGALLY.

Ever read the US Constitution? Didn't think so.

There's a part in there about Ex Post Facto Law.

If Trump changes the rule, it will apply from that point on.

You people get worked up over nothing. Take a pill fer chrissakes

Oh yes it would - Go read the entire Beavis Miller proposal.
He won't get away with it.
 
Thank you for this Coyote - I heard this was coming but not in this much detail. This is another pile of excrement from the squirming brain of Stephen "Beavis" Miller. In his case, POS is a bit of an understatement. Probably the second most dangerous man remaining in this shit-show of an administration.

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^^^^ Illustrating that Leftists are Mega Fails at doing Memes.
 
Oh yes it would - Go read the entire Beavis Miller proposal.
He won't get away with it.

From what I understand, they are just proposing enforcing the Law as it is currently written.

What's wrong with that?

Just because the scumbag that polluted the White House before Trump refused to enforce the Law, that doesn't mean that Trump has to follow suit.

Other than that, I couldn't give a shit less.

If they're not following the Law, they need to go.

And take you with them
 
If they are going to stay here they should become citizens, IMO.

They will not be allowed to become citizens if they, or any member of their family, has used any form of public assistance.

One example is an immigrant father being denied citizenship because his daughter, who was born in the USA with a congenital heart defect, has used CHIP for her medical treatment.

This means that unless an immigrant makes enough money that they don’t receive earned income credits, food stamps or Obamacare, they can never become citizens and be subject to deportation.

With more than 40% of residents receiving some form of government assistance, nearly all immigrants would have received some form of public assistance at some point in their journey, and that immediately disqualified them from becoming citizens ever. Even if they are now successful or rich, having used Medicaid, food stamps or any form of public assistance, would bar them from citizenship.
 
Oh yes it would - Go read the entire Beavis Miller proposal.
He won't get away with it.

From what I understand, they are just proposing enforcing the Law as it is currently written.

What's wrong with that?

Just because the scumbag that polluted the White House before Trump refused to enforce the Law, that doesn't mean that Trump has to follow suit.

Other than that, I couldn't give a shit less.

If they're not following the Law, they need to go.

And take you with them

Obama enforced the law deported millions .. More than Bushie Boy/ More than Trump Dumpster:

Donald Trump is deporting fewer people than Barack Obama did
Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President
Why Trump Deports Fewer Immigrants Than Obama

But it was not his policy to snatch toddlers away from mothers and toss them in cages.
You're a good little Deplorable.
 
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I just told you. You think that you and people who think like you are "good, real Americans", Trump knows how to make you happy, and he does it.

The rest of us can piss off.

Do I need to say this again?
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--------------------------- yeah , pizz off eh !! And hopefully you and others will be pizzed for at least 2 years and then a total of 6 and then Pence with similar policies for a number of years . And hey , there can only be one winner and no one ever tells me why the USA needs more imported people , third worlders and muslims in particular Mac .
 
heck , we , TRUMP supporters made Trump the President of the USA Mac .
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Immigrants who rely completely on welfare programs or long-term Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

The American taxpayer would save approx 57.4 Billion Dollars a YEAR if the Welfare sucking Immigrants were dispatched ie. GTFO this according to figures from the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine. Each immigrant costs American taxpayers 1,600 Dollars more per year than the Immigrant generates in return.

National Academies: Immigrants Cost State and Local Taxpayers $57.4 Billion Per Year

"Mass immigration is pushing huge costs on to state taxpayers for schooling, crime and welfare, says a new report by the prestigious, government-endorsed National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine.

Each immigrant costs state and local taxpayers roughly $1,600 more per year than the immigrant generates in taxes, the report notes. In total, the current annual net cost of first-generation immigrants — including the cost of educating their children — adds up to $57.4 billion per year, much of which is paid by state and local taxpayers.

The per-immigrant cost is roughly equal to tax surplus paid by one native-born American, which ranges from $1,300 to $1,700, says the report, titled “The Economic and Fiscal Consequences of Immigration.”

So each first-generation immigrant consumes all the leftover taxes from one native-born worker, after receiving various benefits from the state, according to the report."

National Academies: Immigrants Cost State and Local Taxpayers $57.4 Billion Per Year | Breitbart

Trump’s Welfare Ban for Immigrants Would Be $57.4B Tax Cut for Americans

"President Trump’s ban on allowing welfare-dependent legal immigrants to resettle permanently in the United States would likely save American taxpayers about $1,600 a year per immigrant."

Trump's Welfare Ban for Immigrants Would Be $57.4B Tax Cut for Americans

Before we have the but but but Breitbart, within the articles are included the links and graphs to the actual report from the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine.

Not that this IMMENSE saving of BILLIONS of Dollars that could be better spent on Americans instead of WASTING it on Welfare sucking Immigrants matters to Leftists because not only do Leftists support the importation of such pointless and useless Immigrants because of Muh Slave Trade and Muh Colonialism but Leftists also like to spend spend spend spend until they achieve near bankruptcy, ever better is the usual Tax and then Spend on totally self-defeating and illogical SJW programmes.
 
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Its simple immigrants who use public benefits get deported.


nah - it's really simple.

White RW's hate ethnic groups but dont have the balls to come right out and say it.

"Ethnic" immigrants are the only ones using public benefits?

That's a good point. Maybe they can start deporting poor, uneducated white Trump voters on SNAP & other assistance too.

Drain the Swamp! :cool:


Actually Clinton voters are more likely to be SNAP recipients than Trump voters. But where would you deport them to? The land of their ancestors, regardless of whether or not those countries want them? That liberal idea was, BTW, proposed 50 years ago by Ultraliberal Democrat Presidential candidate George C. Wallace. I remember the libs in Ohio chanting "Send them back to Africa"
 
Its simple immigrants who use public benefits get deported.


nah - it's really simple.

White RW's hate ethnic groups but dont have the balls to come right out and say it.

"Ethnic" immigrants are the only ones using public benefits?

That's a good point. Maybe they can start deporting poor, uneducated white Trump voters on SNAP & other assistance too.

Drain the Swamp! :cool:

"Maybe they can start deporting poor, uneducated white Trump voters"

Why not deport all the Black Welfare Kangz and Queenz back to their Ancestral Africa, that would not only reduce the welfare cost but also reduce America's crime rate in the majority of big cities.
 

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