So Why Is Israel Allowed To Possess Chemical And Nuclear Weapons?...

[Wyatt earp]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

Because the USA says so...anymore questions?


They never formally acknowledged it, have to remember Obama and company ratted them out a few years ago ....

 

[pwjohn]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

 

[Correll]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Although I disagree with the idea of going to war with Iran, Iran did sign those treaties and is still bound by them.

 

[Ringel05]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Ah, poor boy hates Israel, damn uppity Jews........

 

[pwjohn]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Ah, poor boy hates Israel, damn uppity Jews........

And you're an uppity buttfucking troll.

 

[Ringel05]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Ah, poor boy hates Israel, damn uppity Jews........

And you're an uppity buttfucking troll.

Whatever justification you can come up with eh?

 

[pwjohn]

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Ah, poor boy hates Israel, damn uppity Jews........

And you're an uppity buttfucking troll.

Whatever justification you can come up with eh?

You make it about me, I'm gonna make it all about you, dicklicker

 

[paulitician]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

 

[Ringel05]

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Ah, poor boy hates Israel, damn uppity Jews........

And you're an uppity buttfucking troll.

Whatever justification you can come up with eh?

You make it about me, I'm gonna make it all about you, dicklicker

Soooooo, personal perspective ain't about you.......? Okie, dokie Sparky......

 

[paulitician]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

That wasn't the question. The question was, why won't they ratify such treaties? Most of the civilized world has.

 

[Ringel05]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Only to some. You may not be an anti-semite but you are an idiot who believes anything that comes down the pike supporting your paranoid delusions.

 

[irosie91]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was wrong about lots of things----he tried to grow olive
trees at MONTICELLO

 

[Correll]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

That wasn't the question. The question was, why won't they ratify such treaties? Most of the civilized world has.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

That's my answer. What part of it are you not getting?

Do you want something more?

 

[paulitician]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

But yet they insist we go to war with Iran because they might get nukes. No wonder people hate fucking israel.

Yeah, this U.S. double standard policy has created a lot of bitter resentment among most nations in the region.

 

[paulitician]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was wrong about lots of things----he tried to grow olive
trees at MONTICELLO

He wasn't wrong on 'Entangling Alliances.' We can't just approve of all terrible behavior because we consider the perpetrators 'Close Allies.' Israel is wrong sometimes. It does a lot of awful things. And calling it out on it doesn't make one an 'Antisemite.'

 

[irosie91]

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was wrong about lots of things----he tried to grow olive
trees at MONTICELLO

He wasn't wrong on 'Entangling Alliances. We can't just approve of all terrible behavior because we consider the perpetrators 'Close Allies.' Israel is wrong sometimes. It does a lot of awful things. And calling it out on it doesn't make one an 'Antisemite.'

I know of no one who ever claimed that Israel cannot be criticized-------Jews criticize Israel LOTS-----that's why they have dozens of political parties over there-----your anti Semitism has nothing to do with CRITICIZING negative action by Israel---
my impression is that you have been an anti-Semite all of your life----but I did not MEMORIZE your posts ------I will ask a question----How old were you when you knew that there is something really nasty about jews?

 

[paulitician]

Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

In 1937 FDR REFUSED to recognize the Jewish State because to do so would force the US to PERMANENTLY defend and support the Jewish State.

But in 1949 Harry S Truman was in a tight race against Dewey ; he needed all the support he could get . David Ben Gurion gave him 2M $ and a promise that American Likudnicks would vote for him.

Presto, 1.5 Million Palestinian were declared foreigners in their own land.

And now the zionuts control our domestic politics and foreign policy.

.

I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

(1)
Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Only to some. You may not be an anti-semite but you are an idiot who believes anything that comes down the pike supporting your paranoid delusions.

Huh??

 

[paulitician]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

That wasn't the question. The question was, why won't they ratify such treaties? Most of the civilized world has.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

That's my answer. What part of it are you not getting?

Do you want something more?

Why doesn't that concern you or the U.S. Government? Most nations in the world have ratified these Treaties. That includes nations like Syria and Iran.

 

[irosie91]

Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet.
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

Why hasn't Israel ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

And as they have not signed these treaties they are not bound by them.

The mindset of holding people responsible for violating agreements they have not agreed to is fairly bizarre.

That wasn't the question. The question was, why won't they ratify such treaties? Most of the civilized world has.

Because they are honest enough to NOT sign a Treaty they have no intentions of following.

That's my answer. What part of it are you not getting?

Do you want something more?

Why doesn't that concern you or the U.S. Government? Most nations in the world have ratified these Treaties. That includes nations like Syria and Iran.

right------and now they are among THE MOST RIGHTEOUS NATIONS IN THE WORLD. Israel is the villain

 

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I am intrigued-----someone asked FDR to recognize Israel in 1937 ? and FDR refused on the grounds that recognition would obligate the US to "DEFEND"?
gotta link?

Ben Gurion gave Truman 2 Million? and mentioned AMERICAN LIKUDNIKS?
Ben Gurion, himself was not LIKUD-----in fact there was no "LIKUD" back then---
Ben Gurion was head of the Israeli LABOR PARTY--------kinda a socialist thing
gotta link?

1.5 million Palestinians were declared "foreigners" in Israel--------there were not
1.5 million Palestinians in all of Israel in 1948. In fact ---in 1948 arabs living in any
part of Palestine were not called "Palestinians" In 1948 the ONLY people called
PALESTINIANS-----were jews

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Truman Adviser Recalls May 14, 1948 US Decision to Recognize Israel

"Most people who knew the Middle East at first hand opposed the partition plan, adopted by the United Nations on November 29, 1947. Patently unfair, it awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants."

Nor, apparently, does Clifford, who never once expresses any regret about the 750,000 Palestinians pushed out of their country during the 1947 to 1949 fighting, and never allowed by Israel to return to their homes


John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

But Truman folded on these impulses, Judis says, in part because he needed $100,000 from political donors Abe Feinberg and Ed Kaufmann – a huge sum in 1948–for a whistlestop campaign trip through the midwest when his campaign was broke and Thomas Dewey was threatening to make him a one-termer. Those Zionist donors got “unmatched access to the White House.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Franklin Roosevelt expressed a similar secular pragmatism. In 1944, he chided the two leading Zionist lobbyists, Rabbis Wise and Abba Silver, that they were pushing a course that could lead to war. Roosevelt reflected angrily: “”To think of it, two men, two holy men, coming here to ask me to let millions of people be killed in a jihad.” - See more at: John Judis’s Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism

Yeah, it's to the point where you're immediately branded an 'Antisemite' if you dare to question Israel's behavior. But i'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen. I'm not subserviant to Israel...

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - Entangling alliances with none - President Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was wrong about lots of things----he tried to grow olive
trees at MONTICELLO

He wasn't wrong on 'Entangling Alliances. We can't just approve of all terrible behavior because we consider the perpetrators 'Close Allies.' Israel is wrong sometimes. It does a lot of awful things. And calling it out on it doesn't make one an 'Antisemite.'

I know of no one who ever claimed that Israel cannot be criticized-------Jews criticize Israel LOTS-----that's why they have dozens of political parties over there-----you anti Semitism has nothing to do with CRITICIZING negative action by Israel---
my impression is that you have been an anti-Semite all of your life----but I did not MEMORIZE your posts ------I will ask a question----How old were you when you knew that there is something really nasty about jews?

Well, now you're just makin stupid shit up. People who know me here know i often defend Israel. I just don't feel i'm obligated to defend and support all of its awful behavior. I'm an American Citizen, not an Israeli Citizen.