Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich

[gautama]

Meh ... I just say get rid of all the organizations the government runs and wastes money on, let people make choices themselves, and let the state governments (after giving us people the power again) run things. Hold politicians accountable for their promises and lies, pay them mean wages instead of letting them choose their own, and let businesses stand on their products and services. A little more complex, but that's how it would work best.

Kittenkorder,

Needless to say, I disagree with Edthecynic's Obami-Salami like premises.

As to your conclusion:

There are probably quite a few of us that share your dream.

Alas, it's a dream without any success of even remotely coming into being.

G'luck

PS: just noticed your "Meh...." Is that a typo, or something I don't know about ?

Two points, guatama..

first- edthecynic did not pen that quote. editec did.

Secondly - Obama is in no way shape or form supportive of what I proposed.

So, aside from the fact that you credited the wrong person for my proposal, and competely do no not understand that what I proposed is diametically in opposition to what people like Obama want, your point makes a lot of sense.

Now many so-called libnertarians and conservatives claim that they want a FAIR system of taxation.

I just proposed the fairest system of taxation possible.

You would have total control over how much taxes you pay because all you need do to avioid taxes is to NOT BUY foreign made goods.

In other words, you could keep every fucking cent you made if you purchased wisely.

NO FEDERAL INCOMES TAXES whatever.

Now, does that sound like "Obami-Salami" to you?

FYI, lad, the system I just proposed is the system the founding fathers put into place in 1789.

It lasted for about 150 years until the first Federal income tax was introduced.

Sorry,

I goofed.

Anyone that has opinions opposite to those of the REAL Obami-Salami is OK with me.

Again.

Sorry.

 

[gautama]

You are so stupid it hurts my eyes to see your shit. You have obviously never been rich.

And with your pea brain you never will be.

Rich people do not start buisiness you fucking moron. Rich people make money artificially with the investment of thier money in the stock market. The people that create the most jobs are the middle class. They are the ones with the combination of innovation, motivation and enough capital and credit to take a chance on a new business. Investment in the markets does not create jobs. It just inflates prices.

Huggy,

OBVIOUSLY, you are a COMMIE PISS-ANT.

And, an INTENSELY JEALOUS ONE, at that.

I am not listed in Forbes 400. And, I'm nowhere close to being on that list.

However, my cousin is in the top 40. And those are billionaires.

As for me, my wife and I (and son and daughter), we are ALL in the class that is called "professionals". I can proudly say, that we are the BACKBONE OF AMERICA. We make "good" money. But then we are also being soaked more than ANYONE COMPARABLE TO US, PROPORTIONALLY, even in the SOCIALIZED European countries.

What I am concerned about is that our ENLIGHTENED AMERICAN CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM, the GREATEST ECONOMIC SYSTEM IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND is in a SERIOUS CRISIS BECAUSE OF OBAMI-SALAMI.

Is it PERFECT ????

OF COURSE NOT !!!

It must be tweaked hither and yon.

BUT.......TO HAVE IT BEING OVERTURNED BY A SLEAZY MARXIST/COMMIE Black Racist Political Scoundrel Obami-Salami ....... with his OUTRAGEOUSLY OBVIOUS CORRUPT RISE THRU THE COMMIE-ORIENTED, MOB-CONNECTED CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE...TOP ECHELON ACORN INVOLVEMENT WITH SUCH HUMAN GARBAGE LIKE THE UNREPENTANT, HOMICIDAL, MANIACAL TERORIST Bill Ayers, etc.....

That is TOO MUCH !!!!

BTW, to get the correct view of the CRISIS in America, read about my views and those of the Great American - African Scholar from Stanford Univ, Thomas Sowell. GO TO THE SECTION: "RACE RELATIONS/RACISM" , and look up my thread entitled: "Black Racism's ARROGANCE. Part TWO."

Racist

Commie fool.

 

[HUGGY]

Huggy,

OBVIOUSLY, you are a COMMIE PISS-ANT.

And, an INTENSELY JEALOUS ONE, at that.

I am not listed in Forbes 400. And, I'm nowhere close to being on that list.

However, my cousin is in the top 40. And those are billionaires.

As for me, my wife and I (and son and daughter), we are ALL in the class that is called "professionals". I can proudly say, that we are the BACKBONE OF AMERICA. We make "good" money. But then we are also being soaked more than ANYONE COMPARABLE TO US, PROPORTIONALLY, even in the SOCIALIZED European countries.

What I am concerned about is that our ENLIGHTENED AMERICAN CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM, the GREATEST ECONOMIC SYSTEM IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND is in a SERIOUS CRISIS BECAUSE OF OBAMI-SALAMI.

Is it PERFECT ????

OF COURSE NOT !!!

It must be tweaked hither and yon.

BUT.......TO HAVE IT BEING OVERTURNED BY A SLEAZY MARXIST/COMMIE Black Racist Political Scoundrel Obami-Salami ....... with his OUTRAGEOUSLY OBVIOUS CORRUPT RISE THRU THE COMMIE-ORIENTED, MOB-CONNECTED CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE...TOP ECHELON ACORN INVOLVEMENT WITH SUCH HUMAN GARBAGE LIKE THE UNREPENTANT, HOMICIDAL, MANIACAL TERORIST Bill Ayers, etc.....

That is TOO MUCH !!!!

BTW, to get the correct view of the CRISIS in America, read about my views and those of the Great American - African Scholar from Stanford Univ, Thomas Sowell. GO TO THE SECTION: "RACE RELATIONS/RACISM" , and look up my thread entitled: "Black Racism's ARROGANCE. Part TWO."

Racist

Commie fool.

There are no more communists nitwit. You are so stupid. Name ONE country that is pure communistic! You just throw stupid shit out of your mouth that doesn't mean a goddamn thing. Thats what is so irritating about people like you....the truth is meaningless...all that matters to you ignorant fucks is what you see on fox. I thank my lucky stars every day that my mind hasn't turned to mush like yours has. I pity you. You are dead you just don't know it yet.

 

[edthecynic]

However, if the poor are the ones paying the higher taxes, then if any of your contentions were half true, the "libs" are currently spending a ton of the "cons" money on themselves.

That doesn't even make sense!!
And if any of your contentions were half logical that would be a vast improvement.

Edthecynic aka The Liberal LOGICIAN....or better still...LOGORHEAN,

The LOGIC involved by KittenKorder is not only better than being "half logical", it is SUPERB LOGIC with a dab of exquisite SARCASM.

Let me explain this to a Libtard of, apparently, limited mental ability:

Point ONE: YOU, Edthecynic, claim that the POOR (or the Libs) are the ones that are paying higher taxes.

Point TWO: If it is actually as YOU claim, that the POOR (or the Libs) are the ones that are paying the higher amount of taxes and therefore by direct implication ARE SUBSIDIZING THE WELFARE OF OUR NATION......then....

POINT THREE: as KittenKorder deftly and LOGICALLY stated that: the POOR (or the "libs") are currently spending a ton of the "cons" money on themselves." because WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT.....in spite of your BIZARRE DELUSION.....the REALITY is that the "CONS" are paying the greater of the taxes as compared to the POOR (i.e. the Libs). IOW, KittenKorder is, at this point, INJECTING REALITY into your mix of DELUSIONS.

LOOK AT THE LEGITIMATE, EASILY VERIFIABLE STATS ON THE PAYMENT OF THE TAXES, in ANY form, from govtal or a plethora of other sources....from Columnar or PIE-Shaped Graphs.....ALL OF THEM IRREFUTABLY CLAIM that the lower 47%, or so PAY ZILCHO or ALMOST ZILCHO as compared to what your "CONS" or the MIDDLE or the RICH do. All this REALITY is confirmed by elaborate, CPA verifiable data taking into consideration ALL types of "taxation" .

GEDDIT ????

So try to stop your TRANSPARENT sophistry.....I know that as a LIB you can't.....BUT TRY ANYWAY !!!

Here we go again, I post a CON$ervative stat that shows that Libs earn 6% more income than the underachieving CON$ and then ask why CON$ are complaining about Libs wanting to tax Libs more and they spin that into, I'm saying that the "poor" libs are paying the bulk of the taxes!!

I love how CON$ prove they can't rebut anything I post by making up stuff I never posted to rebut. Thank you!

If the Libs are "poor" then the CON$ are 6% poorer!

And I've already posted the CBO report with a link to download the PDF that put the lie to the claim that the bottom 47% pay "zilcho" in fed taxes.

 

[ozzmdj]

Americans know how to use the moving van to escape high taxes.Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich - WSJ.com

With states facing nearly $100 billion in combined budget deficits this year, we're seeing more governors than ever proposing the Barack Obama solution to balancing the budget: Soak the rich. Lawmakers in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York and Oregon want to raise income tax rates on the top 1% or 2% or 5% of their citizens. New Illinois Gov. Patrick Quinn wants a 50% increase in the income tax rate on the wealthy because this is the "fair" way to close his state's gaping deficit.

 

[edthecynic]

However, if the poor are the ones paying the higher taxes, then if any of your contentions were half true, the "libs" are currently spending a ton of the "cons" money on themselves.

That doesn't even make sense!!
And if any of your contentions were half logical that would be a vast improvement.

Damn ... so much projection ... so little time.

What a typical illogical non-answer!
Try showing exactly what you are spinning into "the poor are the ones paying the higher taxes."
Till you do that, how do you expect me to figure out what the hell you are babbling about!

 

[gautama]

Racist

Commie fool.

There are no more communists nitwit. You are so stupid. Name ONE country that is pure communistic! You just throw stupid shit out of your mouth that doesn't mean a goddamn thing. Thats what is so irritating about people like you....the truth is meaningless...all that matters to you ignorant fucks is what you see on fox. I thank my lucky stars every day that my mind hasn't turned to mush like yours has. I pity you. You are dead you just don't know it yet.

Hey Commie Fool,

Commies are the extreme practitioners of MARXISM. The intermediate stage of MARXISM is SOCIALISM.....depending on the Economic nuances involved, there are more than one form of Socialism..

You say:"There are no more communists nitwit."

Have you ever heard of CHINA you braindead idiot ???? Vietnam ??? North Korea ??? WTF do you think these countries are .... MONARCHIES ??? European type Socialized Economies ???

What kind of a FOOL are you anyway ????

Calling you a COMMIE FOOL is a COMPLIMENT you braindead twit !!!

I WAS PAYING YOU A COMPLIMENT, YOU FXXXING INGRATE !!!!

The history of Obami-Salami's childhood and growth was of an EXTREMIST MARXIST ..... BOTH his parents were EXTREME MARXISTS, even his Maternal Grandfather was a Nutso EXTREME Marxist hobnobbing with COMMUNISTS like the well known Notoriously acclaimed "COMMUNIST" Poet Frank Marshall Davis.....who was Obami's self-acknowledged MENTOR

If that is not enough Obami-Salami's MURDEROUS Cousin Odinga is an EXTREME MARXIST, i.e. the AFRICAN STALIN...i.e. a full fledged PSYCHO COMMUNIST. And Obami Salami photo-oped wreathed in smiles at this COMMIE PSYCHO's rallies. And, later with his Kenyan COMMIE relatives getting additional arm-in-arm photo-ops with this AFRICAN COMMIE MONSTER, ODINGA !!!

In his political rise Obami-Salami ALWAYS connected himself not only with the sleazy and the politically CORRUPT..... but they ALL had The EXTREME MARXIST aspect to them like ACORN....which had the strong connection to the Unrepentant, Homicidal, Maniacal Terrorist.....AND COMMUNIST Bill Ayers.

As Obami-Salami became more and more powerful and acquired more and more of the POLITICAL LIMELIGHT, Obami-Salami had to CAMOUFLAGE and OBFUSCATE his IRREFUTABLE MARXIST/COMMIE OVERT RELATIONSHIPS and submerge them into the supposedly HUMANE aspects of SOCIALISM......denying that it was even SOCIALISTIC !!!

Now, "FREE LUNCH" fools like you with Obami-Salami's HOOK, LINE and SINKER plastered all over you aren't even TRUE MARXIST/COMMIES......you are just "FREE LUNCH" FOOLS MOUTHING THE PARTY LINE TO GET A "FREE RIDE" !!!

So, flush yourself down the toilet ASAP ..... before you open your yapper again and make yourself even more ridiculous than you already are.

 

[ozzmdj]

Rhode Island to shut down gov't for 12 days... My Way News - RI gov to shut down state government for 12 days

 

[JakeStarkey]

Some sanity is required here.

So Socialism and capitalism are economic systems.

Communism and democracy are political systems.

Both capitalism and socialism operate well in communist and democratic countries.

 

[HUGGY]

Commie fool.

There are no more communists nitwit. You are so stupid. Name ONE country that is pure communistic! You just throw stupid shit out of your mouth that doesn't mean a goddamn thing. Thats what is so irritating about people like you....the truth is meaningless...all that matters to you ignorant fucks is what you see on fox. I thank my lucky stars every day that my mind hasn't turned to mush like yours has. I pity you. You are dead you just don't know it yet.

Hey Commie Fool,

Commies are the extreme practitioners of MARXISM. The intermediate stage of MARXISM is SOCIALISM.....depending on the Economic nuances involved, there are more than one form of Socialism..

You say:"There are no more communists nitwit."

Have you ever heard of CHINA you braindead idiot ???? Vietnam ??? North Korea ??? WTF do you think these countries are .... MONARCHIES ??? European type Socialized Economies ???

What kind of a FOOL are you anyway ????

Calling you a COMMIE FOOL is a COMPLIMENT you braindead twit !!!

I WAS PAYING YOU A COMPLIMENT, YOU FXXXING INGRATE !!!!

The history of Obami-Salami's childhood and growth was of an EXTREMIST MARXIST ..... BOTH his parents were EXTREME MARXISTS, even his Maternal Grandfather was a Nutso EXTREME Marxist hobnobbing with COMMUNISTS like the well known Notoriously acclaimed "COMMUNIST" Poet Frank Marshall Davis.....who was Obami's self-acknowledged MENTOR

If that is not enough Obami-Salami's MURDEROUS Cousin Odinga is an EXTREME MARXIST, i.e. the AFRICAN STALIN...i.e. a full fledged PSYCHO COMMUNIST. And Obami Salami photo-oped wreathed in smiles at this COMMIE PSYCHO's rallies. And, later with his Kenyan COMMIE relatives getting additional arm-in-arm photo-ops with this AFRICAN COMMIE MONSTER, ODINGA !!!

In his political rise Obami-Salami ALWAYS connected himself not only with the sleazy and the politically CORRUPT..... but they ALL had The EXTREME MARXIST aspect to them like ACORN....which had the strong connection to the Unrepentant, Homicidal, Maniacal Terrorist.....AND COMMUNIST Bill Ayers.

As Obami-Salami became more and more powerful and acquired more and more of the POLITICAL LIMELIGHT, Obami-Salami had to CAMOUFLAGE and OBFUSCATE his IRREFUTABLE MARXIST/COMMIE OVERT RELATIONSHIPS and submerge them into the supposedly HUMANE aspects of SOCIALISM......denying that it was even SOCIALISTIC !!!

Now, "FREE LUNCH" fools like you with Obami-Salami's HOOK, LINE and SINKER plastered all over you aren't even TRUE MARXIST/COMMIES......you are just "FREE LUNCH" FOOLS MOUTHING THE PARTY LINE TO GET A "FREE RIDE" !!!

So, flush yourself down the toilet ASAP ..... before you open your yapper again and make yourself even more ridiculous than you already are.

You aren't gonna die of communism sport. It's gonna be a coronary.

 

[midcan5]

I saw this George Carlin quote which I though fit this thread perfectly.

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money." George Carlin



"There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later. Almost all rich nations have higher general taxes than the U.S., and they are growing faster as well." Tax cuts spur economic growth


The Idolatry of Ideology-Why Tax Cuts Hurt the Economy by Russ Beaton
Spending Cuts Vs. Tax Increases at the State Level, 10/30/01
The rich get rich because of their merit.

 

[editec]

The sooner ATLAS SHRUGS the better as far as I'm conerned.

The working classes have been carrying these parsites on their backs for far too long.

Go ahead, join John Galt, please.

Worthless fucks.

 

[ozzmdj]

The sooner ATLAS SHRUGS the better as far as I'm conerned.

The working classes have been carrying these parsites on their backs for far too long.

Go ahead, join John Galt, please.

Worthless fucks.

Just another in a long line of things you write

 

[ozzmdj]

Andrew Wesbecher moved to London from New York in 2006 to sell software to banks and hedge funds. This month he joined the exodus of American expatriates fleeing high taxes and the city’s shrinking financial industry......Elle Macpherson Can’t Counter London Gloom as Americans Flee - Bloomberg.com

 

[rightwinger]

Andrew Wesbecher moved to London from New York in 2006 to sell software to banks and hedge funds. This month he joined the exodus of American expatriates fleeing high taxes and the city’s shrinking financial industry......Elle Macpherson Can’t Counter London Gloom as Americans Flee - Bloomberg.com

Are you kidding me??

He left New York for LONDON???

Can you explain how London has lower taxes?

Maybe he left for the free healthcare

 

[Oldandtired]

Andrew Wesbecher moved to London from New York in 2006 to sell software to banks and hedge funds. This month he joined the exodus of American expatriates fleeing high taxes and the city’s shrinking financial industry......Elle Macpherson Can’t Counter London Gloom as Americans Flee - Bloomberg.com

Are you kidding me??

He left New York for LONDON???

Can you explain how London has lower taxes?

Maybe he left for the free healthcare

well...that seals it...you are obviously not a business owner.

 

[Jay Canuck]

I will cry for the rich.

now I feel better.

 

[Jay Canuck]

You Know Michele Bachman thinks that the rich will leave America......and I think that will just leave America to the poor....

 

[Oldandtired]

I will cry for the rich.

now I feel better.

None asks you to cry for the rich.t would be nice if people did not frown on the rich. Most of the rich were not always rich. Most of the rich are decent citizens. Most of the rich pay their tax oliability every year. Most of the rich got there with hard work.

But we are in a new era. If you are rich you either do not deserve the money as you were silver spoon fed, or you do not deserve the money becuase yo9u pay your employees too little.

So no....no need to cry for the rich. Just do to them what you insist they do to you....nto frown on them.

 

[Oldandtired]

You Know Michele Bachman thinks that the rich will leave America......and I think that will just leave America to the poor....

And then the poor can employ each other.

Oh wait.......not sure how that can happen...