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Debate like a man. Showing us silly illustrations only shows more juvenile behavior, and a lack of engaement away from critical debate. It's your MO. That's on you.Silly?..You have absolutely NFI what you're blabbering about and I'm silly?Being silly is only showing your own failure to debate. Ha, good for me, bad for you.
Yeah, m'kay.
Instead of going on a rant trying to get Republicans to understand what Socialism actually is, and that without it, there is no Capitalism, I wonder if Republicans will ever understand the easy explanation that Bill Maher points out here? That in fact, for most of us, to be happy and to have piece of mind financially, it is in fact Socialism that delivers real Capitalism to most Americans? Let's see how many of them get it? And then, let's see how many of them can deliver an intelligent argument against it?
Sure seems to be an easy fix to this mess....move to one of those "happy" places....dumbass.
So, your argument is to present no argument, and attack me for spelling out what you can't argue about. Now isn't that rich. Lol!
My prediction was right. No Republican has yet presented any intelligent rebuttal to the OP I presented.
Really!? Are you that fricken stupid? You know implementing Socialism in this country would be extremely tough, lives lost and money flushed at the very least. Wouldn't it be much easier for those that want socialism to move to a country that already has socialism.
We already do. We've had it ever since FDR. The fact that you do not know the definition of Socialism is on you. Why move somewhere else when we already have it?
If I don't pay them, they won't be putting me in jail, because there was no money paid out to have the jail or the road to take me there.If you don't pay them the government will either take the money from you by force or put you in jail for refusing. Did you really not know that?
We pay these things from a need, not because we are forced. Without these services, everything comes to a hault. Are you telling us you do not understand that?
See what I mean? When in doubt, and you've come to recognize your own inadequacies, resort to attacking the other guy as your only escape route. Which is what you always do. Again, that's on you.I have no problem recognizing anything....Eventually, the pretense of benevolence will be abandoned, as has been done every time..The problem you have is recognizing which one does what?
You, sir, are dumber than a bag of fucking hammers.
Call it what you want. Without taxes, the country stops moving. That's reality. Your hang up is your own. I just happen to be a realist who knows what it takes for the wheels of civilization to keep moving.If I don't pay them, they won't be putting me in jail, because there was no money paid out to have the jail or the road to take me there.When I am taxed for roads, bridges, police, fire departments, clean water, safe food, etc. how is that coercive?One could take your line of thinking and say any form of taxation is advocating violence. Taxes of some sort are necessary to run a nation.
Taxation is coercive in nature - there's no way around it. That's why we should minimize the practice, and only use it when it's truly necessary.
If you don't pay them the government will either take the money from you by force or put you in jail for refusing. Did you really not know that?
LOL - that's some serious logical deduction right there.
We pay these things from a need, not because we are forced. Without these services, everything comes to a hault. Are you telling us you do not understand that?
I understand why we might want to pay taxes. But that doesn't change the basic coercive nature of tax laws. Taxes aren't voluntary.
Instead of going on a rant trying to get Republicans to understand what Socialism actually is, and that without it, there is no Capitalism, I wonder if Republicans will ever understand the easy explanation that Bill Maher points out here? That in fact, for most of us, to be happy and to have piece of mind financially, it is in fact Socialism that delivers real Capitalism to most Americans? Let's see how many of them get it? And then, let's see how many of them can deliver an intelligent argument against it?
Sure seems to be an easy fix to this mess....move to one of those "happy" places....dumbass.
So, your argument is to present no argument, and attack me for spelling out what you can't argue about. Now isn't that rich. Lol!
My prediction was right. No Republican has yet presented any intelligent rebuttal to the OP I presented.
Really!? Are you that fricken stupid? You know implementing Socialism in this country would be extremely tough, lives lost and money flushed at the very least. Wouldn't it be much easier for those that want socialism to move to a country that already has socialism.
We already do. We've had it ever since FDR. The fact that you do not know the definition of Socialism is on you. Why move somewhere else when we already have it?
I could say, if we already do then STFU. But I know you loons feel this country is not socialist enough. We do have socialist type programs and you want more. If you want more, buy a one way ticket.
"Want more?" Such as? Did I ever say that? No! You invented that in your head. I only want the Socialism we have always had since FDR, and get rid of the Socialism that does me no good, like sports Socialism.We already do. We've had it ever since FDR. The fact that you do not know the definition of Socialism is on you. Why move somewhere else when we already have it?So, your argument is to present no argument, and attack me for spelling out what you can't argue about. Now isn't that rich. Lol!Sure seems to be an easy fix to this mess....move to one of those "happy" places....dumbass.
My prediction was right. No Republican has yet presented any intelligent rebuttal to the OP I presented.
Really!? Are you that fricken stupid? You know implementing Socialism in this country would be extremely tough, lives lost and money flushed at the very least. Wouldn't it be much easier for those that want socialism to move to a country that already has socialism.
I could say, if we already do then STFU. But I know you loons feel this country is not socialist enough. We do have socialist type programs and you want more. If you want more, buy a one way ticket.
Any taxation that keeps the country "moving" is appropriate.Call it what you want. Without taxes, the country stops moving. That's reality. Your hang up is your own. I just happen to be a realist who knows what it takes for the wheels of civilization to keep moving.
They are "symbiotic" only in the sense that a tick is symbiotic with a cow.Once again the lies and straw men...Scandinavia isn't socialist....They all have market-based economies.....A gigantic welfare/vassal state, being taxed to the point that your economies are utterly moribund, nearly non-existent economic mobility and disposable income, is greatly different from The State owning and operating the means of production.
Talk about others not knowing what socialism is.
Maher never said they were 100% Socialism. Trying to hijack what is being said won't work. Private investment is still a main ingredient in their economy. I knew that the Right would not get it.The fine line between socialism and severely regulated capitalism
You folks either aren't smart enough, or you refuse to understand the symbiotic relationship that exists between the two systems that make them so successful.
Thanks for the unintelligent rebuttal. Your contribution is nothing more than a waste of time. See you later.They are "symbiotic" only in the sense that a tick is symbiotic with a cow.Once again the lies and straw men...Scandinavia isn't socialist....They all have market-based economies.....A gigantic welfare/vassal state, being taxed to the point that your economies are utterly moribund, nearly non-existent economic mobility and disposable income, is greatly different from The State owning and operating the means of production.
Talk about others not knowing what socialism is.
Maher never said they were 100% Socialism. Trying to hijack what is being said won't work. Private investment is still a main ingredient in their economy. I knew that the Right would not get it.The fine line between socialism and severely regulated capitalism
You folks either aren't smart enough, or you refuse to understand the symbiotic relationship that exists between the two systems that make them so successful.
What's "unintelligent" about it? Doesn't government get all it's revenue from private business in one form or another?Thanks for the unintelligent rebuttal. Your contribution is nothing more than a waste of time. See you later.They are "symbiotic" only in the sense that a tick is symbiotic with a cow.Once again the lies and straw men...Scandinavia isn't socialist....They all have market-based economies.....A gigantic welfare/vassal state, being taxed to the point that your economies are utterly moribund, nearly non-existent economic mobility and disposable income, is greatly different from The State owning and operating the means of production.
Talk about others not knowing what socialism is.
Maher never said they were 100% Socialism. Trying to hijack what is being said won't work. Private investment is still a main ingredient in their economy. I knew that the Right would not get it.The fine line between socialism and severely regulated capitalism
You folks either aren't smart enough, or you refuse to understand the symbiotic relationship that exists between the two systems that make them so successful.
In the world of utter nonsense, you just made a great case. If by paying taxes to fund roads and bridges is "theft", you just created a new definition for "theft." Lol!Since all taxation involves the threat of violence in the end, all taxation is theft.Any taxation that keeps the country "moving" is appropriate.
Any taxation that transfers (steals) money from one to another is violent theft.
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The only taxation I have been talking about is your previous example, not the latter.Any taxation that keeps the country "moving" is appropriate.Call it what you want. Without taxes, the country stops moving. That's reality. Your hang up is your own. I just happen to be a realist who knows what it takes for the wheels of civilization to keep moving.
Any taxation that transfers (steals) money from one to another is violent theft.
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Taxation and spending for the necessary mutual benefit of all?The only taxation I have been talking about is your previous example, not the latter.
Nothing is free, whether it is private or government. So your question has no relationship with making any sense?"Want more?" Such as? Did I ever say that? No! You invented that in your head. I only want the Socialism we have always had since FDR, and get rid of the Socialism that does me no good, like sports Socialism.We already do. We've had it ever since FDR. The fact that you do not know the definition of Socialism is on you. Why move somewhere else when we already have it?So, your argument is to present no argument, and attack me for spelling out what you can't argue about. Now isn't that rich. Lol!
My prediction was right. No Republican has yet presented any intelligent rebuttal to the OP I presented.
Really!? Are you that fricken stupid? You know implementing Socialism in this country would be extremely tough, lives lost and money flushed at the very least. Wouldn't it be much easier for those that want socialism to move to a country that already has socialism.
I could say, if we already do then STFU. But I know you loons feel this country is not socialist enough. We do have socialist type programs and you want more. If you want more, buy a one way ticket.
I see, so you're against the free healthcare, free college and free income?
The majority of welfare goes to corporate. We just shelled out $2 trillion to corporate, and got nothing back, but extra debt. The percentage of individual welfare is a fraction of what corporate gets.Taxation and spending for the necessary mutual benefit of all?The only taxation I have been talking about is your previous example, not the latter.
Examples:
Military Defense
Courts
Police
Fire
Those are designed to benefit all citizens equally (I know they don't always do so).
Welfare (corporate or individual) and Competitive Taxation (FedEx, UPS, etc. paying taxes to compete with USPS) are examples of theft by taxation. There are plenty more.
Nothing is free, whether it is private or government. So your question has no relationship with making any sense?"Want more?" Such as? Did I ever say that? No! You invented that in your head. I only want the Socialism we have always had since FDR, and get rid of the Socialism that does me no good, like sports Socialism.We already do. We've had it ever since FDR. The fact that you do not know the definition of Socialism is on you. Why move somewhere else when we already have it?Really!? Are you that fricken stupid? You know implementing Socialism in this country would be extremely tough, lives lost and money flushed at the very least. Wouldn't it be much easier for those that want socialism to move to a country that already has socialism.
I could say, if we already do then STFU. But I know you loons feel this country is not socialist enough. We do have socialist type programs and you want more. If you want more, buy a one way ticket.
I see, so you're against the free healthcare, free college and free income?
Republicans have this attraction for creating these make believe scenarios in their minds, that have nothing to do with reality.
Free HC/college/freeincome, if those things existed, would not be free. We would still pay for them. So stop pretending the free stuff exists, when it never has.
Taxation is coercive in nature - there's no way around it. That's why we should minimize the practice, and only use it when it's truly necessary.